Just my opinion, so far no simple system here works long-term yet

[Nathan Detroit]

The HG has been found  !! Perfect VB . Pascal thought he had the last laugh . Then the VB cats had the last laugh but now the casinos  have tightened the screws.

[curious]

The holy grail does exist.  I saw a guy use it on TV.

This dude sold everything he owned including all his clothes (I think he even sold his girlfriend), and took every penny he had to his name, cashed in stocks, cashed in retirement accounts, etc. and raised $167,000.  He then flew to Las Vegas and bet the entire amount on one spin at the roulette wheel at the Plaza casino.  He bet on red.

He won.

[GogoCro]

To Herb,
in you post #3 you wrote;

Systems don't work, and can't work because of the house edge.    There isn't one posted anywhere that can.    This isn't to say that some aren't fun to play.   

Strategies, like dealer's signature where the ball release number and wheel speed is taken into account can work.   They have also been tested.    Unfortunately it doesn't work on every wheel out there because of the physical conditions required. 

-Herb

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What you think (and everyone) about casinos what have games without hause edge -  like Betvoyager?
I can understund that is no such system what is 100% winning, but somone could play in some way, use varius systems, bets and MM.   Those guys would not share this or sell it to no one!

Thanks

[GARNabby]

Truthfully,

Systems don't work, and can't work because of the house edge.  There isn't one posted anywhere that can.  This isn't to say that some aren't fun to play.

Strategies, like dealer's signature where the ball release number and wheel speed is taken into account can work. They have also been tested.  Unfortunately it doesn't work on every wheel out there because of the physical conditions required.

-Herb

Isn't a 'system' a collection of methods, the latter which are strategies and/or techniques?

[seykid29]

Hi,
i usually play the automated roulette with live ball,and yes so no dealer,when im in  a good state of mind,which is essential for roulette,i eventually double my BR within 10 spins,with a number of strategy i pick from SINJUIN ROULETTE.
Im now becoming a more confident player,the way i play i put great emphasis on EVEN/ODD,1-18 18-36 which believe me can increase your win,which where i play,many players neglect,as they chase mors single numbers and sector for big easy win(according to them) and miss other opportunities.
Seykid (soon to be a semi-pro )   )

[lucky_strike]

that's just my opinion.

the closest I have seen are from Victor and Kimo so far.

Well i woundering if you are the same Bobby who scam see_jerek? long story short.

LS

[Diarmaid]

Anyone who has a solid method, system or whatever you call it, is not going to post it on a public forum.

[bombus]

Anyone who has a solid method, system or whatever you call it, is not going to post it on a public forum.

Why not?

[Diarmaid]

Why not?

ehhh, do you really not know the answer to that?  

I'm not saying people will not help, obviously people have, I have learned a lot from VLS, I mean someone with a 100% solid method is not going to spoon feed a whole public forum with his method.

[lucky_strike]

Qoute:

"Anyone who has a solid method, system or whatever you call it, is not going to post it on a public forum."

I would spell it out like this.

Even money bets.
Anyone who has an Estat of 2.5 or above, flat betting with placed bets "with an positive expectaion", is not going to post it on a public forum.
You might find hints no more or less.

Numbers.
Anyone who has the skills and the edge using VB "with an positive expectation", is not going to post it on a public forum.
You might find hints no more or less.

LS

[Diarmaid]

Thanks LS, thats what I was trying to say. 

[lucky_strike]

Quote:

Why not?

1) It does not exist  a way to gain an poistive expectaion.
2) No one would let the casino taking counter measuring methods against that particular method.
3) If you have a way to make your money become more money just walking into an casino would you like every one to do the same thing, hehehe would that be the end of the game we call roulette.
4) The only way you will find out the truth is to skip all the posts that does not give you the following.
a) An value for an certan event.
b) How to apply math.
c) Explain the probability behind it.
d) Show you significant statistics results why it works or fail.

LS

[sniper]

Hello Lucky Strike,

Quote by LS

I would spell it out like this.

Even money bets.
Anyone who has an Estat of 2.5 or above, flat betting with placed bets "with an positive expectaion", is not going to post it on a public forum.
You might find hints no more or less.

Thank you very much

Regards

sniper

[lucky_strike]

Thank you very much

I do not claim to have an Estat of 2.5 or above I just say that it what you need if there is going to be a chance to gain more then you lose long term.
I do not brag about things like this or make empty statments about it.

Even I post fun action player methods because it is fun and I enjoy it.
But the gambling world is a hard place to grasp and it is an cruel gambling world and now I did not mention all the expectations and dreams some members want to become true.

There is facts and fiction.
And one of them is there will not be an public post "get all" and quit work.

LS

[Marven]

Spot on Lucky.

[Marven]

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