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Possible long term winner

Started by sniper, September 13, 2009, 10:41:49 PM

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sniper

Wait for a streak of minimum 5 on any EC. On a break, bet the previous streak once. Win or lost wait again for new signal. Use Lanky's 6 point divisor plus VLS 50% Money Management. Seek no more, this is the one and only one long term winner I come across after 30 years of gambling and testing. Anyway please don't shoot at me before you do your testing. I believe there could be more winning system out there. For me this is the only system that win and continue to win. This idea is not mine, I pick it up from this forum. I believe this is the best way for me to thank all of you who have provided such a nice platform for me to pursue my dream in finding my personal long term winner. Thank you Victor for your 50% Money Management. Lanky, thanks for your world famous 6 Point Divisor. Thanks to the guy who posted this betting strategy. The Last Dozen @ Jump Dozen system does work using Lanky's 6 point divisor. I stop using it because the betting units can get high at times. Even though it's a long term winner,I have played and won with it for a while, personally I feel more comfortable with less volatile system.

Regards

sniper


Lanky

sniper .

Congrats Mate.

I am so pleased that You have found something that works for You Cobber.

You are a real good Bloke with a great Heart for others.

Good On-Ya Mate.

Lanky.

Spike

Wait for a streak of minimum 5 on any EC. On a break, bet the previous streak once.>>

This is no more of a winner than any pattern you can pick. Why would the law of series suspend itself for this sequence?

rjeaton1

Quote from: sniper on September 13, 2009, 10:41:49 PM
Wait for a streak of minimum 5 on any EC. On a break, bet the previous streak once. Win or lost wait again for new signal. Use Lanky's 6 point divisor plus VLS 50% Money Management. Seek no more, this is the one and only one long term winner I come across after 30 years of gambling and testing. Anyway please don't shoot at me before you do your testing. I believe there could be more winning system out there. For me this is the only system that win and continue to win. This idea is not mine, I pick it up from this forum. I believe this is the best way for me to thank all of you who have provided such a nice platform for me to pursue my dream in finding my personal long term winner. Thank you Victor for your 50% Money Management. Lanky, thanks for your world famous 6 Point Divisor. Thanks to the guy who posted this betting strategy. The Last Dozen @ Jump Dozen system does work using Lanky's 6 point divisor. I stop using it because the betting units can get high at times. Even though it's a long term winner,I have played and won with it for a while, personally I feel more comfortable with less volatile system.

Regards

sniper



I too am thrilled you found something that works for you.  Interestingly enough, I was looking for a bet selection to use with Lankys six point divisor plan to play at my local casino that only offers RNG roulette.  You know, something that I might win just a little bit with, maybe enough to pay for my drinks or just lose slowly enough to keep me at the wheel (er...giant tv screen with a wheel on it) for a bit.

This seems alright, so I'll probably be coding this (just to get an idea of what I'd be spending at the casino if I played for a couple hundred spins or so).  If you'd like, PM the intricate details of the system and I'll code it.  You'll be the first to get it, and then if you don't mind, I'll post it on the forum for everybody else to check out.

sniper

Thank you Lanky and thank you rjeaton1. Spike, thank you for your comment. I fully agree with what you say. I have tested on hundreds of thousand spins using rx and noticed that the fluctuation is very small. Of course every mathematical system with eventually lose to the house advantage of 2.7% or 5.4% for the double zero wheel. Because of the low fluctuation, we can apply Lanky's 6 point divisor to overcome the problem. The risk is always there, that's where Victor's 50% money management plan come into play. I have tested and used a similar strategy in the financial market years back and the results was beyond expectation. Spike, you are right, we can choose anything and probably the outcome will still be the same. The very fact that I choose this betting strategy is because of the very very low fluctuation even after a few hundred thousand spins. Lanky's 6 point divisor handles this kind of fluctuation perfectly. The betting unit will remain very low and it's very stable. This make a perfect model for grinding. If we apply Victors 50% mm, the initial bank roll should ideally be 200 units to be divided into 5 bank rolls of 40 units each. Profit target is 10% per session. We can play more than one session per day if time permit. Each time we hit our target we will pocket 50% of the winning. 25% goes to the 1st bank and the remaining 25% goes to a new bank. Please read Victor's post for detail regarding this subject. For the 6 point divisor, please refer to Lanky's post.
Rjeaton1, the betting strategy is as follow:

spin     no    r/b     bet    

1        8      B
2       32     R
3       22     B
4       11     B
5       24     B
6       33     B
7        2      B              (a streak of 5 black)
8       25     R              (capped by red, so we bet black)
9       28     B       B      win
10      21     R
11       9      R
12       3     R
13      18     R
14       7     R
15      34     R              (a streak of 6 red)
16       2     B               (capped by black, we bet red )
17      13    B       R       loss

After a streak of at least 5 on any of the EC, we wait for the streak to stop,and bet once on the previous streak. Win or lose we will wait for next signal.

Regards

sniper

sniper

Hello friends and forum members,

Every component needed to churn out a long term winner is here in this forum. I mentioned this some time back in replying to one of the post in this forum. I don't know what you guys are chasing after, each individual have different dreams and expectation. If you are looking for your personal "holy grail" or long term winner, look no further, it's all here in this forum. I have been chasing and dreaming for a PERFECT SYSTEM for the past 30 years and found none. We are always looking for a "perfect system", actually there is no such thing. We have tested and seen tons and tons of good and not so good system. We have laid our hand upon very simple to very sophisticated system. We have tried mathematical, pattern recognition,law of third,probability theories and much more.In the end what we get is frustration and monetary loss beside loss of time.We are chasing after the impossible. How can we ever change the impossible to possible? After long hours of playing and testing, I began to see the real weakness of most system.We can afford to win but we can't afford to lose. We win 3units and we go home happily,when we lost 3 units we will fight till the cow come home. This is human weakness, we will win for 10 days continuously and give all back plus bankroll in just one day.The answer to all this is volatility or fluctuation. We have to overcome volatility before we can even think about playing.I realized that the only way to solve this problem is by finding a betting strategy which by nature will keep the volatility minimal. Once we have this, Lanky's 6 point divisor will fit in perfectly. Add in Victor's 50% Money Management plan and we will have a very safe and stable long term money making system.

Best wishes and best of luck to you guys/gals

Regards

sniper   

sniper

Hello friends and forum members,

Over the years we have thrown out of our windows numerous so called uninteresting or dull system.We might have mistaken unpolished diamond as glass. When we noticed a betting system remains flat or unprofitable after a few session, we flush it down the toilet or kitchen sink. We are only looking for systems which shows profit trending upwards and HOPE it will never come down. Sadly we will never find one that can last long enough for us to make some decent profit at the real game. I suggest why not we all dig out the so call uninteresting, dull, flat and suppose not to work system or strategy and see if we can make it work. To be a long term winner,the most important criteria must be low fluctuation. The best candidate should be the one with profit or loss fluctuating around zero and with small losses and win here and there.We will work together as a team and help make each others dream come true. I believe end of the day we will each have our so called personal "holy grail". Don't let the doom preacher look down on us anymore.We have been laughed at and kicked around like a fool. We even knelt down and go to the extend of BEGGING whenever someone say they have some kind of so call winning system to give away. It's time we WAKE UP, unite and pursue our dream together. There's no point arguing among ourselves, we will not accomplish anything. We might not like another guys system, it does not matter. Each one of us is different, we see things differently, but that does not mean we can't help others to achieve their dream. If we start helping each other from now on, soon many of us will have our goal accomplish.

Wish All of Us Success beyond expectation

sniper    

WARRIOR

Sniper your the man what you say is correct, I am play exactly how your playing but in reverse when I see a long seqeunce of EC and it stops I bet it will not happen again,works well . 3 5 13 29 33 15 17 34 capped with 34 i bet the sequence of odds event   not to happen it is a mirror method the only difference  is im not betting every spin like a true mirror system  only my thoughts enjoy Tino

sniper

Hello WARRIOR,

Thanks for sharing your system. Congratulation for your success. Like I say there are many possible long term winners to be discovered here in this forum.The method I mentioned above is just one of the possible long term winner. The most important issue here is low fluctuation. The lower the volatility the better the outcome will be.When we find a betting strategy with very low fluctuation, just use Lanky's 6 point divisor couple with Victor's 50% MM and we have a long term winning system. Now I realized that we actually have many long term winning system lying dormant inside this forum.It's like old furniture, many young people inherited an old house and threw away all what they thought and believed to be old furniture. What they don't realized, they might be throwing away antique which probably could fetch a price few times higher than the value of the house.

Regards

sniper

VLSroulette

QuoteWe have to overcome volatility before we can even think about playing.

Amen!

zwanatico

I don't understand it completely. Can you elaborate with examples? (the divisor system and 50% MM rule)
I assume yo don't do proggression, but I believe that if you progress 4-5 times, and STOP LOSS, this is also a winner system.
Just like my columns system, after 5 numbers of same dozen/columns, progression 1,3,9,27 stop, that I also think is a longer term winner. 
The problem with these system is that they are VERY SLOWLY. You can wait for a looong time to start betting.
Thank you

Spike

This make a perfect model for grinding.>>>

I guess I'm missing something, like the math that proves its a winner. I have the math that proves its a loser, something isn't right here. I looked at something like this a few years ago and it doesn't win in the long term. Whats changed?

Marven

Quote from: sniper on September 14, 2009, 06:10:20 AM
The very fact that I choose this betting strategy is because of the very very low fluctuation even after a few hundred thousand spins. Lanky's 6 point divisor handles this kind of fluctuation perfectly. The betting unit will remain very low and it's very stable.

This is exactly what I was trying to accomplish a while ago. I tried to find a bet selection that loses to the house edge BUT has low fluctuation, and then apply the divisor to it. It didn't work because sooner or later I would get that bad session where bets explode above the table limits.

May I ask you was it "a few hundred thousand spins" or "a few hundred thousand bets" you tested? I assume it's the former.
Can you provide around 10K placed bets where the fluctuation remains low in such a way that, applying the divisor, the bets remain low/playable? I'd be surprised if this is possible.

In any case, this is a mechanical approach (bet selection and MM wise), which means you can ask someone to code it for you and see how it performs over large amounts of trials.

Best of luck in your quest.

WARRIOR

I think the way to go on any system is if the system makes lets your bank is 100 units if it makes the 100 units when testing over and over then I think you should consider the system even the most stupid system will win in short term remember wre not in the casino for 1000 spins in one night,i think that the rise and fall mm is the best i have seen.

zwanatico

I've been searching and testing, and finally found a system very similar that works:
Wait for 5 consecutive EC, on a break, bet on previous streak, (NOT ONCE), but 4 TIMES: 1,2,4,8 AND STOP,
If you win, you win 1 unit, if you lose, you lose 15 units.
I've tested on thousands of spins (playtech RNGs)  and it has more than 93% hit rate
I am sure it can be improved using some kind of better progression/money management rule
For example, you can stop betting for the day when you reach a predefined target (x units)
or you can double bet, after losing...

Can anybody check this system?

Thank you.

zwanatico

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