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The 4Selecta system

Started by Mr Chips, July 29, 2008, 12:17:33 PM

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TwoCatSam

Mr. Chips

I found my mistake on the chart.  There should be no CG for complete group.

Sam

Mr Chips

Sam,
 
I will be getting back to you on your worksheets.

I did notice the following :
 
8-6-8
 
spin 53
 
19
8
0
--- We ignore 0 but this completed the section and is on a betting line and of course would be a loss.
16
1
4
----
9
29
14
----
28
1
17
10
----
It does correct itself further down the line.

TwoCatSam

Mr. Chips

I need some guidelines on when to pull out and call it a loss for the session.  I think I am on a PERSONAL losing streak right now and if I bet on water to run downhill, I would probably lose.

Sam

Mr Chips

Sam,
 
As I mentioned you need to show at least 150 spins as most of the results I got were between 100 and 150 spins. When the numbers get additional units added to them, that's when you get some good hits especially with 3 units on a number.
 
I have taken the spins from a couple of your worksheets and if you can relate them to what I will show below, hopefully our figures will agree. I would suggest for practice try a couple of Spielbank-Wiesbaden sessions say in May and I will check the figures and you will see how it properly works with the exit strategy.
 
8-5-8
 
35
3
17
----
16
19
25  -1
---
15
22
7
21  -3
---
29
5
21  -5
---
30
0
31
31  -6
---
33
11
31  +29
---
30
10
18
33  +28
---
22
9
18  +27
---
8
25
21
35  +24
---
36
23
16  +20
---
7
11
35  +51
---
22
26
22  +45
---
9
7
20
24  +39
---
25
32
19  +33
---
19
26
28  +27
---
 
17, 25, 18, [35], 16
 
[21], 19, 28
 
[31], 33, 22, 24
 
LG   MG   HG   C
1      1     1     1
2     (2)    2     2
        3     3     3
               4    4
               5
              (6)
 
At this stage at around 50 spins to 100 spins, units will be added to more and more numbers. The hits up to this point will boost the positive results and should it be necessary to take a loss, it should be possible on most occasions to limit the loss to within the guide line range of - 50 units.
 
Further spins from next worksheet to follow.
 

Mr Chips

8-6-8
 
25
21
9
---
5
27
27  -1
---
19
12
16
19  -3
---
12
27
25  -5
---
24
4
29
11  -6
---
16
28
28  -9
---
17
27
20
26  -12
---
0
9
36
28
27  +20
---
5
26
12  +15
---
16
1
35  +10
---
26
20
23  +4
---
15
28
34  0
---
5
33
28
22  -7
---
29
30
5
7  -14
---
15
29
7  +14
---
19
8
0  +5
---
 
9, [27], 25, 26, 35, 34, [7]
 
19, 11, 28, 12
 
23, 22
 
 
LG   MG   HG   C
1      1     1     1
2             2     2
3             3     3
               4     4
              (5)   (5)
               6

TwoCatSam

Mr. Chips

Why not just forget the sheets I have posted?  They are so full of mistakes!

Let me do one you have already done from May and you won't have to do the figures twice.

I do need to know this about the zero.......

19LG
7HG
0 ............I had a bet here and lost it.  Now, to complete this Section, do I want for the next number and pretend the zero is not there?


19LG
7HG
0
5MG.............Do I have a complete Section now?

Sam

Mr Chips

Sam,
 
Usually you would ignore the zero, but when its the third Group of a section, the betting line, then the zero completes the section.
 
The 5 MG starts another section.

TwoCatSam

Mr. Chips

Sorry, you lost me!

19LG
7HG
0 ..........What would this section be?  There is only LG and HG.  Would we just skip it and call it a "lost" or "incomplete" section?

Would you care to pick a day from Spielbank that you have already worked and therefore know the results and won't have to take so much of your time checking my work?

Sam

Mr Chips

Sam,
 
We can of course ignore zero's because they don't effect selecting the Groups. The exception is on the betting line, the third Group of a section. We have to show the zero, if we are noting the results for each section as I just showed re your worksheet spins. As it's not a Group there is nothing else to do.

Mr Chips

I forgot the last bit of your post, I think I will go to bed soon had a bad storm here last night, not much sleep.
 
Pick any day, make it 2 different days and we will go through both of them in minute detail.

TwoCatSam

Mr. Chips

Here is the first two hundred.  Will do another two hundred after you have looked over these.

Spin 30 on page 1.  If I understand you, when you cannot make a bet and two of the Sections are tied, you go back to the previous section.  That is what I did.

Sam




Mr Chips

Sam,
 
You picked a tough one lol, it's the luck of the draw.
 
5
5
1
24
---
19
10
4
6  -1
---
5
31
17
7   -3
---
1
33
25   -5
---
36
31
26  -7
---
30
21
26
27  -10
---
13
32
31
23
16
22  -14
---
0
34
35
7
10
12  -18
---
4
22
36
15  -21
---
27
4
13  -25
---
1
15
34  -30
---
27
15
8  -35
---
2
10
4
11  -40
---
2
16
15  -46
---
28
32
28  -52
---
20
23
20  -58
---
20
15
7   -64
---
33
34
16  -70
---
11
11
12
16
14  -78
---
14
14
28
11  -86
---
4
31
23
6
30
5   -90
---
19
22
20  -98
---
15
3
18  -103
---
20
35
18  -111
---
10
23
36  -121
---
36
32
10  -126
---
33
21
11  -137
---
6
33
25
11  -36
--- EXIT
 
24, 6, 22, [15], 13, 14
5
 
[7], 25, 26, 27, 34, 8
16, [18], 36
 
12, [[[11]]], 28, 20, 10
 
 
LG   MG   HG   C
1      1     1     1
2      2     2     2
3      3     3     3
4      4     4     4
5      5     5     5
6      6     6     6
                     7
                     8
                     9

 
At 103 spins the opportunity to exit within the recommended guidlines of -50 range presented itself and should always be taken. There could well be an opportunity further on perhaps to get into profit, but that is an additional risk and instead could lead to a bigger loss, especially when the number of units  bet will increase.
 
I am not sure why you showed no bet at spins 13, 14, 15 as the M Group was in the lead?
 
I made a note at spin 74 that this session would likely lead to a loss because the Groups in the Table were so equal 4, 5, 5, 5.

TwoCatSam

Mr. Chips

As to spins 13 14 and 15, here's the way I saw it.

1LG
33HG

As you stated MG is in the lead at spin 12.  There is no way for the above to become an MG and that's all I could bet.  It could become an LG or an HG or CG only.  Perhaps I am missing something here.  I noticed the exit point as I passed it, but I just wanted to carry on for 200 numbers.

I'll try another trot tomorrow.  It's midnight here.

Sam

Mr Chips

Sam,
 
Just realised you have got 33 as an H instead of M.
 
Has your wife noticed you,ve got more grey hairs since you took on this system!

TwoCatSam

Mr. Chips

I can see making a mistake as to a number's group can throw off the whole trot.  I must be more careful!

My wife is a patient woman; Lord knows she would have to be.  Last week we went to see "Mama Mia".  Really fine movie!  Great ABBA music!  I sing better than Pierce Brosnan!  Yesterday we loaded up and drove about a hundred miles round trip to eat a piece of quiche at a unique little restaurant/junk shop we love.  It's things like that which keep me at the computer or my desk.

Oh, yes, it's really good quiche!!  And the potato soup......I'd like to buy the whole forum a bowl!

Sam

TwoCatSam

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