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Title: Misfit
Post by: Norman Bates on November 19, 2011, 06:40:52 PM
10 chips on numbers 8, 29, the 2nd dozen, column B, 16/19, and 18/21 split
20 chips on corner (10:14), (11:15), (22:26), and (23:27)
21.5 chips on numbers 0, and 00
33 chips on numbers 4, 6, 31, and 33
48 chips on numbers 17, and 20
422 chips per spin.  4,220 buy-in
Use Same Spins Each Time
Title: Re: simple and reliable to use
Post by: ADulay on November 19, 2011, 06:47:48 PM
Quote from: Norman Bates on November 19, 2011, 06:40:52 PM
Simple and Reliable

Define "reliable" as it pertains to this extravaganza you've just posted here.

AD
Title: Re: simple and reliable to use
Post by: Norman Bates on November 19, 2011, 06:54:12 PM
Very colorful ADulay, just not Risque'. I like It!
Title: Re: Misfit
Post by: ADulay on November 20, 2011, 12:15:01 AM
Norm,

  Just changing the thread title on your message does not automatically change all of them.

  Just answer the question.

  AD
Title: Re: Misfit
Post by: Norman Bates on November 20, 2011, 05:35:02 PM
Lets face it boys.  Roulette Xtreme is little more than a child's toy, because of the irregularity of certain bet placements on the layout, but without it, you people would  be out of a job.  So, of course you must consider me a threat.

Not only that, but this is just the brainstorming section of the forum, and yet you still seem to have the time to criticize me personally for the strategies I post. With that said, I continue on playing the game, because for some reason I still get hours of enjoyment figuring out new ways to make the meter run.  

The software has an option to repeat the same spins over, and over but you can't win using that feature so why did they put it on there in the first place?  The bet placements I have made over the past few months all worked until I posted them on the web. Then poof, just like magic, they stop working.  Even if you use the same downloadable spins as you did when you were winning they still stop working.  There for, it seems to me that someone has a vested interest in making sure you can not discover a winning solution with roulette extreme software.  It's always break, or bust with no happy medium.

I agree, you can't win forever, but it's all a little too hokey for me.   Merry X-Mas

And as for you ADulay you know I'm handicapped, so why don't you find someone else in your category to pick on?
Title: Re: Misfit
Post by: Steve on November 20, 2011, 06:33:12 PM
Norman, it is a not a personal stab to say I cant make sense of what you post. It looks like needlessly complicated bet placement with at times aggressive progression. There is no conspiracy to make your system lose eventually. It is more like it doesnt work in the first place, and you find this with further testing.

With your general approach to roulette, it simply cannot work. Or perhaps I dont understand the logic in why you bet what you bet because to me it seems random. If you want people to respond better, I suggest explaining what you are posting.
Title: Re: Misfit
Post by: Mr J on November 20, 2011, 07:05:41 PM
"422 chips per spin.  4,220 buy-in" >>>  :girl_crazy:
Title: Re: Misfit
Post by: Norman Bates on November 20, 2011, 07:41:20 PM
The comment about, "don't change the title and think I won't continue to pester you about it"Thing!!!  I tried to change the title, and made a positive change  for him, but he was still argumentative.  The question was asked, and answered. There's no reason to be like that.  Also, if you don't like the buy_ in listed discuss that with me, or just use your own.  You don't have to be rude about it with that stupid smiley shooting his mouth off.  That's just rude, and Don't expect me to be perfect when you guys are trained professionals, and do nothing in the way of help. I'm trying to do good.  You guys shouldn't be all PO'd about me like that. Besides, There's something else I want you to see.  It's called,"Reverse"!

1 unit on 17/20 split
2 units on 8, 29, the 2nd dozen, column B, 0/00, 16/19, and 18/21 split
4 units on corners (10:14), (11:15), (22:26), and (23/27)
6 units of numbers 4, 6, 31, and 33
55 units of 5. 275 chips per spin.  750 chip buy-in not including the original 275 chips all ready on the layout.
Title: Re: Misfit
Post by: Mr J on November 20, 2011, 07:45:03 PM
Not trying to be rotten but......Im not sure which is more strange. The bet selection or the number of chips required?


No person is gonna bet 422 chips PER SPIN. Do you get that?

Ken
Title: Re: Misfit
Post by: Norman Bates on November 20, 2011, 07:49:13 PM
Once Again, Asked And Answered!
Title: Re: Misfit
Post by: Mr J on November 20, 2011, 07:55:21 PM
Ok, I'll rephrase the question. Not counting this method........all your other methods, no sane person is gonna BET the number of chips you post (or the buy in), so why post it?

Ken
Title: Re: Misfit
Post by: Norman Bates on November 20, 2011, 08:04:20 PM
You would think that if a reliable flat bet, good for maybe a grand or two worked, it would be very much appreciated.  Some people have money enough.  It's like saying to someone on Wall Street,"Hey man, how come you Invest so much hard earned money on Crap like that?"

I've also seen many people bet a lot more money than that on a single hand of blackjack.  Craps too!  You guys don't seem to know your way around a casino very well.  I guess you guys forgot.  That's how I earned my money.  So please remember that when you say, "oh he doesn't know how to gamble".
Title: Re: Misfit
Post by: Mr J on November 20, 2011, 08:11:03 PM
"You guys don't seem to know your way around a casino" >>> If I remember correctly, I thought you said you dont play THESE methods (that you post) and/or even go to casinos?

Ken
Title: Re: Misfit
Post by: Norman Bates on November 20, 2011, 08:16:34 PM
That's how I grew up ken.  my mom was a dealer, my step dad is still a craps dealer to this day ofter maybe 25 years or so.  OK?  
So, I worked in nevada casinos sinse I was 14 years old in one fassion or another.  I dealt for 10.  Now, I'm disabled living on ssd in california.
I was at a Palm Springs Casino just yesterday playing slots.  It's Called Aqua Caliente  they have roulette I just don't play.
Title: Re: Misfit
Post by: Mr J on November 20, 2011, 08:22:35 PM
Ok, for the record, you do NOT play at a casino, correct? In some cases (not all) you can be disabled and still play.

I'll make my question a bit more clear....your methods are BASED on WHAT in regards to past experiences? I'm NOT slamming you, simply asking. I dont even care if a certain method sucks, I'm only curious, method 'XXX' is based on what?

Ken
Title: Re: Misfit
Post by: Norman Bates on November 20, 2011, 08:43:57 PM
1. all right.  I will answer your question to the best of my knowledge ken. Its getting kinda personal but what the h**L.  I drank and gambled until my disease got the better of me.  

2. handicap people have rights too.  We can have a drivers license, and enjoy the same thing everybody else is entitled to.  Drinking on the other hand is legal, but would  be deadly in my case.

3.  My basis for this strategy/or bet placement is accomplished by adding up how many units of 5 are listed in each quadrant.  A quadrant is 3, 6, 9,  and 12 for instance.  First, I had to make a compensation strategy that was divisible by 5 in both the columns, dozens, and inside bets of the inside and outside bets as I've explained many times before.  

4. Then I added up the number of units that were in each "quadrant".  they came out to be a mix and match set of numbers so I evened them out buy borrowing from one quadrant, and adding it onto another.  That didn't work out so well so I just decided to borrow 2 units from the 14, 17, 20, and 23 quadrant, and use them on the o's and discarded 2 more leaving only 9 working units in that quadrant. That's why I called it "Reverse", Because I dropped units instead of adding more.  In effect I "threw it in Reverse."

5. In layman's terms I just used a standard compensation strategy, dropped 2 units from the center of the table, and put them on on 0/00 split. Then I dropped 2 more units, and didn't replace them any ware on the layout.  Why it works?  I don't know, but when it stops, I'm going to take another Stab at the whole unified quadrant routine.  That's my latest line of thinking in all of this mess.
Title: Re: Misfit
Post by: Steve on November 20, 2011, 09:22:02 PM
Norman, I'm sorry you are going about roulette all wrong. I can appreciate you are trying to share, but your approaches have a lot of problems.
Title: Re: Misfit
Post by: Mr J on November 20, 2011, 09:22:49 PM
"Why it works?  I don't know" >>> I didn't ask that and I never will. Why? I dont like it when its asked of me. I asked why you chose that TYPE of a bet....which you answered.

"handicap people have rights too.  We can have a drivers license, and enjoy the same thing everybody else is entitled to" >>> Dont ACT like I was slamming you, because I was not.

Its your 'right' to post methods here, I guess.  I have a challenge for you on your NEXT method. Post something........6 numbers max. A ceiling of 36 units per spin, all flat betting, never going over 36 units.


Ken
Title: Re: Misfit
Post by: Mr J on November 24, 2011, 01:55:23 PM
Quote from: Norman Bates on November 19, 2011, 06:40:52 PM
10 chips on numbers 8, 29, the 2nd dozen, column B, 16/19, and 18/21 split
20 chips on corner (10:14), (11:15), (22:26), and (23:27)
21.5 chips on numbers 0, and 00
33 chips on numbers 4, 6, 31, and 33
48 chips on numbers 17, and 20
422 chips per spin.  4,220 buy-in
Use Same Spins Each Time

"Units are increments of any given number" >>> Yes I know that, thanks.

I'll use this method as my example question. Assuming we are talking about dollar chips, you are saying that the 'buy in' for THIS method is $4,220, correct? *KNOWING* (or you should know) that MOST here will not risk or even have $4,220, why post the method?? Dont even tell me it could be 25 cent units, I'm using dollar units as the lowest example.

Ken
Title: Re: Misfit
Post by: Norman Bates on November 24, 2011, 04:11:48 PM
Mr. J, please forget about this thread.  Please Go to the "18 spins", and the" have you seen this 1800 buy-in" threads.
Title: Re: Misfit
Post by: ADulay on January 01, 2012, 10:36:44 PM
Quote from: Norman Bates on November 20, 2011, 08:04:20 PM
I've also seen many people bet a lot more money than that on a single hand of blackjack.  Craps too!  You guys don't seem to know your way around a casino very well.  I guess you guys forgot.  That's how I earned my money.  So please remember that when you say, "oh he doesn't know how to gamble".
Making a single (or a few) large table wagers is NOT the same as making 422 individual wagers.

It's not the money, it's the time available for the bet!

AD