Using the Illusion of Randomness

[gizmotron]

Using the illusion of randomness to create the illusion of a stack of chips that you can cash in on.

It was only an illusion...

[Carlitos]

Hi Gizmo,

What if I could show you that times come together that you can bet half the numbers, to combine two illusions of predictability, to win more often than you should if you had used blind chance or statistical probability for your selection? 

Then show us..........




Carlitos

[TicTacToe]

Very interesting reading   

Gonna take it slow 


TTT

[TicTacToe]

Gizmotron

Question for you before we advance too far.


When you go to a Casino ( not online ), do you chart your session using the above chart, or something of the same nature ?

Thanks

TTT

ps Good Stuff

[Compa]

What do we Bet?


/Compa

[Spike]

It all comes from practicing seeing and acting on the opportunities that come and go. Your ability to become good at it comes from experience. It's hard to do. You must work at it.>>>

You finally came to the point of your long post, I knew you would. Yes, practice and experience are what makes it work. Lots of each. Hard to do. But worth it.

[gizmotron]

It all comes from practicing seeing and acting on the opportunities that come and go. Your ability to become good at it comes from experience. It's hard to do. You must work at it.>>>

You finally came to the point of your long post, I knew you would. Yes, practice and experience are what makes it work. Lots of each. Hard to do. But worth it.

What's even harder to do is being someone trying to listen to others that have grown weary of attempting to be helpful and have left. You can't read something that isn't there any more can you? I'm truly fascinated in those that take in the snake oil and the smoke and mirrors complexity of systems, only to sabotage and camouflage their only chance of avoiding the pitfalls, of the normal learning process of gambling, before knowing what works and what does not. My conclusion is that you must make the expensive mistakes to truly become basically experienced. Enjoy the real learning process. There is no way to avoid it.

[xman1970]

 "Enjoy the real learning process. There is no way to avoid it."

Wise words Gizmotron......

Wise words indeed.....


Take it easy....[smiley=beer.gif]

[Spike]

My conclusion is that you must make the expensive mistakes to truly become basically experienced.>>

Everything I've learned in gambling has cost me money. There's no way to bypass it. Most people don't want to pay anything, they want it all given to them for a low price, and hopefully you'll ride to the casino with them and stake them also, while teaching them how to consistantly win. It doesn't work that way.

[WannaWin]

Hello Mr. Spike and Mr. Gizmotron

I completely agree. I had to learn lessons and has not been through systems that scammers have sold over the Internet but in the casino and lose money.

At first I thought that it was the best martingale system and lost. Lesson learned.

Then I thought to wait for a dozen not appear for 7 coups and come with a progression that is the most economical martingale. This worked for a long time and then lost all the gain and brings a greater loss. Final steps of progressions are big steps and lose them you lose everything.

I also tested with the corners and streets. The progressions are useless. Whenever the lake without hits comes to you it leaves you with losses.

You can not win with the progressions unless you get the achievement of gaps without defeat and that success must be given to a person who knows the game while his selection of betting does not have huge negative fluctuations.

If we can achieve a selection of bets without the incredibly large fluctuation, then with a smooth progression of 1 ... 2 ... 3 ... 4 ... 5 .... can succeed.

Whenever the problem is not getting the money to bankroll, but that the gaps without the hits are going to remove the bankroll. No hits then no matter how long it is the progression: always fail.

We need to improve is the choice of betting. What I learned is that just having dominated the game from the selection of betting you can win and when there is no more immense negative waves, then you can think of using the progression.

Mr. Spike said that the bet selection is the holy grail and I agree with him. The progression would be to win more after you win the bets with the winning selection already. That I learn and derive benefit. Now I do

With comments like these from forums and also the times I lost my money at the casino as teachers, now I do not go seeking the winner progression because there is no winner in progression, but the selection of bets more reasonable can make you succeed.

Greetings,
WannaWin

[gizmotron]

Hello Mr. Spike and Mr. Gizmotron

I completely agree. I had to learn lessons and has not been through systems that scammers have sold over the Internet but in the casino and lose money....

With comments like these from forums and also the times I lost my money at the casino as teachers, now I do not go seeking the winner progression because there is no winner in progression, but the selection of bets more reasonable can make you succeed.

Greetings,
WannaWin

The thing is Spike and me are completely different. We both know that the systems all eventually lead back to breaking even or much worse unless you have a method to win. Most people don't know this method to win because that are more interested in just winning even when they lose. It's that experience thing again.

If you want to perfect choice and selection then only flat bet. All you are left with are the times that work well against the times that don't. You can actually play that by keeping track of how it's going and watching for methods that are working. A lot of times when one thing is working very bad the opposite is working very good. You must play agile. You must adjust to what the game is doing and completely forget about wishing that what you had in mind is working just because you started gambling. You must develop a method to keep your money while waiting for the times that are good to come to you. That is boring and almost nobody has any interest in actually working to be a winner. Unfortunately Roulette is not an ATM like many hope that it will be for them, and it's not going to be one just because anyone  hopes it will be this time. Betting on this time is nothing but wishful thinking.

[ChickenDinner]

You must develop a method to keep your money while waiting for the times that are good to come to you.

Great advice - if more people played like this, the casinos wouldn't know what hit them!

[Spike]

there is no winner in progression, but the selection of bets more reasonable can make you succeed.>>>

You must be able to pay attention and think about what you're doing the entire time you're playing. Most players want to play like robots so they can drink, relax, and have fun. Thats a losers attitude. You must forget about progressions and put all your effort into bet selection. Otherwise, just relax and be entertained, thats what the casino wants you to do.

[JHM]

Hello Mr. Spike and Mr. Gizmotron

I completely agree. I had to learn lessons and has not been through systems that scammers have sold over the Internet but in the casino and lose money....

With comments like these from forums and also the times I lost my money at the casino as teachers, now I do not go seeking the winner progression because there is no winner in progression, but the selection of bets more reasonable can make you succeed.

Greetings,
WannaWin

The thing is Spike and me are completely different. We both know that the systems all eventually lead back to breaking even or much worse unless you have a method to win. Most people don't know this method to win because that are more interested in just winning even when they lose. It's that experience thing again.

If you want to perfect choice and selection then only flat bet. All you are left with are the times that work well against the times that don't. You can actually play that by keeping track of how it's going and watching for methods that are working. A lot of times when one thing is working very bad the opposite is working very good. You must play agile. You must adjust to what the game is doing and completely forget about wishing that what you had in mind is working just because you started gambling. You must develop a method to keep your money while waiting for the times that are good to come to you. That is boring and almost nobody has any interest in actually working to be a winner. Unfortunately Roulette is not an ATM like many hope that it will be for them, and it's not going to be one just because anyone  hopes it will be this time. Betting on this time is nothing but wishful thinking.

Totally agree with that. When I joined the forum I was looking for 1 system which would make me lot of money. But after testing several systems I have learned:

- Find systems that work for you, what fit's one not always fit's all.
- Adjust to the table. Switch system if one is not working, you see red is hot and hitting, considering flat bet's on red.
- When you're definitely one a losing streak, minimize losses or better quit.
- Set yourself a limit.
- Don't gamble, play by your own set rules.

But I guess this is nothing new.

[JHM]

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