good design cool

[simon]

how is it you can assume that you can prove his system doesn't work, when you haven't even studied it?  (plus I think much of it involves subjective decision making by one very familiar with playing it.)  that is a bit presumptious of you, don't you think?  

personally I have not studied the system and am reluctant to do so for various reasons, but I don't see how you can prove that something works or not when you don't even understand it.  which is why it would be good to hear from people who have actually worked with it.

[Mr Chips]

Regarding copyright.  You can't copyright a gambling system.  So I'm not worried about posting it.

The contents of a website can be copyright and in particular the authors description of the contents.

In the USA they have strict laws on copyright.

I have emailed Fishman over at GG and informed him concerning the possible infringement of copyright.

[Landis]

For starters, you can't copyright a gambling system.  You also can't enforce a copyright on a gambling system even if you could copyright it.  So I will in no way be deterred.   I can freely discuss your system at length.  There's nothing original about the system.  Read about the Monte Carlo Fallacy and you'll understand why. 

[Mr Chips]

To the Administrators,

This Landis, probably herb/snowman is only here for one purpose and that is to disrupt this forum.

He has done it before and as soon as a system gets any real interest and people start to show any
favourable results he will do his best to undermine it in some way.

He has no intention of making any constructive criticism, but will habitually quote gamblers fallacy
and will try to convince yourselves that his criticisms are valid and he hopes to subvert the author
of the system and in Winkels case his G.U.T strategy.

Both Winkel and myself have been down this road before and speaking for myself I will not put up
with it.

Regards

Richard

[simon]

So I will in no way be deterred.   I can freely discuss your system at length.

........... but why would you WANT to?  that is as crazy as certain persons who are obsessed with discussing this forum at length and saving us from ourselves (strangely entertaining), who don't even participate in the forum but watch every word of it.  How could it be a constructive use of time to discuss a system that you believe is worthless?  Whatever... do what you gotta do...  whatever floats your boat...

[Landis]

Guys, it's just a gambling system.  Why would you be afraid to get some opinions from other math guys before you waste your hard earned money trying to play it?  

Why would you oppose it being shown elsewhere after you posted it on this public board?

 

This just doesn't make sense to me.  I would think that you would find it beneficial.

I mean this in a polite way, so please don't be offended.

[Mr Chips]

For starters, you can't copyright a gambling system.  You also can't enforce a copyright on a gambling system even if you could copyright it.  So I will in no way be deterred.   I can freely discuss your system at length.  There's nothing original about the system.  Read about the Monte Carlo Fallacy and you'll understand why. 

Under United States law you can copyright the contents of a website and the method used in this website
also has links elsewhere outside of gambling.

[Landis]

Mr. Chips,

With all do respect,  I can freely describe the system and discuss as I see fit.  It's not protected.

Why are you afraid of others expressing their views regarding your system?

[simon]

Guys, it's just a gambling system.  Why would you be afraid to get some opinions from other math guys before you waste your hard earned money trying to play it?  

Why would you oppose it being shown elsewhere after you posted it on this public board?   

This just doesn't make sense to me.  I would think that you would find it beneficial.

........... yes, perhaps it would be beneficial, IF these other people are willing to spend hours studying the system (sure-- have at it and let us know what you think), and IF Mr. Chips wanted to personally advise them all how to play the system, which I'm sure he is not going to do............  whatever...

[Landis]

Simon, that won't be a problem.  I can just post a link to this forum. 

Problem solved.   

[Mr Chips]

Mr. Chips,

With all do respect,  I can freely describe the system and discuss as I see fit.  It's not protected.

Why are you afraid of others expressing their views regarding your system?

You have no intention of describing the system in your own words because you have no intention
of understanding the system.

There a number of people here now who have made the effort to understand the system and if they
find any faults in the system they most certainly have my permission to point them out to me.
If it's a major fault and they show me verifiable results, that after 30 sessions Signum is showing
a loss I will close down the website. That is what I call constructive criticism and I will always respond
to it not generalaties about gamblers fallacy.

[Landis]

Mr. Chips,

You have explained your system here.  Why are you acting like this? 

I won't try explaining it in my own words.  I'll simply post a link to it here.   Please don't get worked up over this.  It's not worth it. 

Would that be ok with you?

[Mr Chips]

Mr. Chips,

You have explained your system here.  Why are you acting like this? 

I won't try explaining it in my own words.  I'll simply post a link to it here.   Please don't get worked up over this.  It's not worth it. 

Would that be ok with you?

The place to criticise Signum is on this forum. I am the author of the contents of the website and  I am
happy for it to be discussed in detail here only. I will not be going on any other forum.

Making any sort of remarks about Signum outside of this forum is frankly pointless, as I am the person
obviously best able to respond to any criticism.

What also you seem to overlook is that people here are not stupid, as you seem to infer by trying to save
them money by not using Signum. If it's a load of rubbish they will soon voice their opinion having tested
the system for themselves. Also I have stressed don't use real money until you fully understand the system.

As I have said the method I use for roulette purposes has other applications as well, which I won't go into
here, so even out of curiosity and the mathematicians I know are intensly curious people, just take a
proper look at the website and then ask me specific questions about it, that is constructive criticism.

[Landis]

Then it's ok to post the link to the system on the math and physics forum?

Great

[Mr Chips]

Then it's ok to post the link to the system on the math and physics forum?

Great

No one can object to a link. What maths and physics forum?

[Mr Chips]

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