Gamlet

[TwoCatSam]

borrowed

[Compa]

Hello Guys. Dont know if this is the same thing as the F&I thingy but i ' ll post this for our new members:

Hi mate. Here's the system spelled out as I understand it. 

First we start with the flattened Wheel as the "Template":

0 32 15 19 4 21 2 25 17 34 6 27 13- 36 11 30 8 23 10 5 24 16 33 1 20 14- 31 9 22 18 29 7 28 12 35 3 26

Now, remember that we might have to "bend" it upwards when we determine the hits. More about that below..

Ok, how do we interprete?

We want to track 3, 4,  or 5 numbers within  5, 7, or 9 pockets at most. What does this mean?

EXAMPLE 1:

First of all we have to label the numberhits from 1 to 5 on the Wheel.  So it can look like this: (im using the"Template" here)


                                 1                     2             3    4    5                                 
0 32 15 19 4 21 2 25 17 34 6 27 13 36 11 30 8 23 10 5 24 16 33 1 20 14 31 9 22 18 29 7 28 12 35 3 26

Now, number 13 24 14 9 18 is our hits here. Labeled 1-5 in that order right? 

If we count the closest distance between one number to the other from left to right we have Hit-number 4 (nr 14) and 3 (nr 9) . That makes two spaces from each other, follow? We continue from hit 3 to hit 5 which is nr 18.

So, we have a 3-Hit within 7 spaces so our bet will be: 14 31 22 9 18 29 7 for max 5 spins. Now, you might think as 3 of these 5 numbers are already hit we got bad odds but it seem to be of little relevance since we bet two unhit numbers as well. 

EXAMPLE 2: (4 within 9)


       4   1     3      2                                    5
0 32 15 19 4 21 2 25 17 34 6 27 13 36 11 30 8 23 10 5 24 16 33 1 20 14 31 9 22 18 29 7 28 12 35 3 26

We got 4 very close so this is determined and qualified as a 4 within 7 pocket bet! Why???
Because we have spin (from left to right) 4 1 3 2 within a seven pocket since we have four numbers very close. so our bet is:

15 19 4 21 2 25 17 for 5 spins -flatbets. 

Make a 5 within 9 pocket Example yourself and reply mateSmiley and here are the Gamlet-rules for this System:

RULES FOR GAMLET*S 5 NUMBERSYSTEM
Here are the rules again:


Side by side: (0 and 32) I bet six numbers, two on either side of the pair.

2 of 3 Last numbers within 5 spaces

3 of 4 Last numbers within 7 spaces

4 of 5 Last numbers within 9 spaces

Double number, eg. 33 33 bet two to the left
And two to the right: 24 16 33 1 20 Now, Gamlet said to bet only the one on either side, but that's only a 3 unit bet and most tables are 5 units or multiples of 5, so I just bet five numbers.
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Cheers

/Compa

[hideseek]

Hi Compa & Sam,
                      Thanks for the system. How many spins do we need to follow?

[TwoCatSam]

hideseek

You could have a sector form in as little as two spins.  0 26   or   35 35.

Sam

[hideseek]

Thanks Sam. I got it.

[Proofreaders2000]

Has anyone uncovered the formula for "Ice" in the Fire & Ice Method?

[TwoCatSam]

Ice is waiting for a sector of 6 to miss 24 times.

Believe it or not, it happens.

[hideseek]

Any idea what is enigmista system? (by Gamlet and by Troublemaker)

[Shorty]

Wasn't that fake?

[hideseek]

No it is not. Many of the senior members of this forum were in touch with gamlet, while he was developing that system. I dont know what happened finally.

[Shorty]

I thought it was fake, but JLP pointed me in the right direction so now I'm looking more into it.

[ChickenDinner]

FIRE

If it's any help, here's what Gamlet posted in the old VLS forum:

Hi guys, I am glad to hear old and new members of a forum. I it is a lot of played last time on various wheels. In different casinos of Moscow also has noticed such law almost everywhere. I want will share it with you and there can be we together can take from this greater benefit.
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Here you see as I win playing on сеторах favorites. A method such: if we see 2 numbers from 3spins beside. Then we put on sector from 6 numbers and we play 6spins. An example:
22
25
18
We put on sector (31,9,22,18,29,7) We play 6 spins .

On my cinema I play with small difference: when there is a game I pass 2-3 spins and then I put on numbers so I play only 3-4 spins for economy of money. But on cinema I have a successful strip and I do not lose in general. But actually there is an opportunity to lose then when game passes in other sector then on to place rates and on other sector and to play simultaneously for 2 sectors on 6 spins.There can be a game at once on 3 sectors. Then it is necessary to play on 3 sectors, everyone 6 spins separately and probably to win 2 games from 3.

As it is possible to play if we see 3 numbers from 4 spins on no more than 7 cells then we play 7 numbers in 5 spins, but the most powerful game is when we have 4 numbers from 5 spins. The distance between numbers should not be more than 9 cells! An example:

1
14
22
25
18

We put on sector (33,1,20,14,31,9,22,18,29 ) We play 4 spins .

At such game I win usually 3 games from four games and my balance leaves in plus.
You have certainly understood, that we speak about the European wheel

It is the initial stage, check up it. I have gone further and have checked up one more, a final stage, but about it we shall talk then

If there are questions. Speak.

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Let's stop. On sector from 9 numbers, nevertheless it is the most powerful game from those sectors. Happens so. When for 4 spins our sector does not win, then game on other party approaches and first wins last sector, and then the first sector, for example;We have

1
14
22
25
18
We put sector (33,1,20,14,31,9,22,18,29 )
Then we see 4spins
17
6
15
8
Here we have again 4 numbers from 5 spins ,It:
25
18
17
6
15
Then 4 spins I put the following on 2 sectors simultaneously 2 units already on sector(33,1,20,14,31,9,22,18,29 ) ,(15,19,4,21,2,25,17,34,6)
Then we win first 2 sector, then 1 sector, for 4 spins.

Very seldom can play 3 sectors it is direct one after another

You can play all 3 sectors doing a soft progression, but you can play (if you are very cautious and do not wish to risk) only last sector, without a progression, leaving only last sector.

It is important, when you have at once some sectors of game, WINS LAST the SECTOR HAS turned out!

GAMLET.

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In this example we play only sector 9 of numbers. The RULE, the last 5 spins a minimum of 4 numbers from this sector!
Number BET
26
2
30
33
4
33
32
5
30
34
30
18
33
2
0
17
11
36
25
Here we have sector (25,17,34,6,27,13,36,11,30)
27 - win ----------------+27(units)
Here we it is had again game the last 5 spins a minimum of 4 numbers (5 numbers(27,25,36,11) from 5 spins-it too are game), therefore continue game that sector (25,17,34,6,27,13,36,11,30)
5 -los
7 -los
15 -los
6 - win ---------------------------------------+27(units)
Here there is no game
28-There is no game
21-There is no game
36-There is no game
6 -Here we have 4 numbers (6,36,21, and 6) for the last 5 spins-6,28,21,36.6
There is a game sector (21, 2, 25, 17, 34, 6, 27, 13 ,36 )
2 -win -------------------------------27+27=+54(units)
We continue, we have 4 numbers(2 , 6 . 36 , 21) from 5 spins ,The same sector (21, 2, 25, 17, 34, 6, 27, 13 ,36 )
30 - los
14 - los
7 - los
21 - win -------------------------------------+54(units)
There is no game
9 -There is no game
25-There is no game
23-There is no game
30-There is no game
14-There is no game
33-There is no game
5 -game sector (14 ,20 ,1 , 33 , 16 ,24,5 , 10 , 23 )
game22-los
9 - los
26-los
19-los , stop. -------------------------------------+54-36=+18(units)
13-no game
8 -no game
8 -no game
8 - game
game sector ( 10 , 23 , 8 ,30 , 11 , 36 , 13 , ,27 , 6 )
32-los
6 - win ------------------------+18+18=36(units)
We again have 4 numbers from 5 spins, we continue that sector to play
2-los
13- win , stop ----------------------------+36+18=54(units)
29-no game
5 -no game
27-no game
19-no game
21-no game
34 - game
game sector (19,4,21,2,25,17,34,6,27 )
22-los
31-los
35-los
1 - los,stop. ------------------------------------+54-36=18(units)
10-no game
18- game We have 4 ( 31,1,10,18 )numbers from 5 spins -31,35,1,10,18,
game sector (31,14,20,1,33,16,24,5,10 )

16-win ,We continue ----+18+27=45(units)
8-los
2-los
28-los
16-win,stop----------------+45(units)
15

TOTAL: +45 UNITS

It for those who wishes to play very cautiously and only on sector 9 of numbers, without a progression!
Gamlet


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I can't find any info the "ice" part or the enigmista system, but some of the posts I've read on other sites seem to suggest that it is the same thing.

Cheers

CD

[TwoCatSam]

ICE is merely allowing 6 numbers to sleep for 24 spins and then betting them with a simple 6 number progression.

[Kon-Fu-Sed]

Hi CD, and All,

You wrote:

18
33
2
0
17
11
36
25
Here we have sector (25,17,34,6,27,13,36,11,30)

But already the five-spins sequence 2-0-17-11-36 is a qualifying sector (2-25-17-34-6-27-13-36-11) - No?

Also close to the end:
22-los
31-los
35-los
1 - los,stop. ------------------------------------+54-36=18(units)
10-no game
18- game We have 4 ( 31,1,10,18 )numbers from 5 spins -31,35,1,10,18,
game sector (31,14,20,1,33,16,24,5,10 )
16-win ,We continue ----+18+27=45(units)
8-los

1) Sequence 31-35-1-10-18: How is this a qualified sector? #18 is 11 slots away from #10...
2) Sequence 1-10-18-16-8: Why is this NOT a qualified sector (8-23-10-5-24-16-33-1)?


This is how I would play the same sequence using those rules:
The sectors are shown in my Wheel-alert script (w0alert.html) v 1.11  <---- Note .11 (see the download description)
Check "Hot", set MinHits = 4, MaxSlots = 9 and MaxSpins = 5

26
2
30
33
4
33
32
5
30
34
30
18
33
2
0
17
11
36      Sect = 2-25-17-34-6-27-13-36-11
25 HIT  Sect = 25-17-34-6-27-13-36-11 ===> Add #2 = 9 numbers
27 HIT  Sect = 25-17-34-6-27-13-36-11 ===> Same section after hit = Don't bet
5      Sect = 25-17-34-6-27-13-36-11 + 27-13-36-11-30-8-23-10-5 === Too wide = Don't bet
7
15
6
28
21
36
6      Sect = 21-2-25-17-34-6-27-13-36
2 HIT  Sect = 21-2-25-17-34-6-27-13-36 ===> Same section after hit = Don't bet
30      Sect = 21-2-25-17-34-6-27-13-36 ===> Same section after hit = Don't bet
14
7
21 
9
25
23
30
14
33
5      Sect = 30-8-23-10-5-24-16-33 + 23-10-5-24-16-33-1-20-14 ===> Too wide = Don't bet
22
9      Sect = 5-24-16-33-1-20-14-31-9 + 33-1-20-14-31-9-22 ===> Too wide = Don't bet
26
19
13
8
8
8      Sect = 13-36-11-30-8 ===> Add #6 + #27 + #23 + #10 = 9 numbers
32 ---  Sect = 13-36-11-30-8 ===> Add #6 + #27 + #23 + #10 = 9 numbers
6 HIT  Sect = 6-27-13-36-11-30-8 ===> Add #34 + #23 = 9 numbers
2 ---  Same bet
13 HIT
29
5
27
19
21
34      Sect = 19-4-21-2-25-17-34-6-27
22 ---  Sect = 19-4-21-2-25-17-34-6-27
31 ---  Same bet
35 --- (I don't think I'd bet 4 x 9 u, but OK)
1 ---
10
18
16
8      Sect = 8-23-10-5-24-16-33-1 ===> Add #20 = 9 numbers
2 ---  Same bet
28 ---  Same bet
16 HIT
15

Bets = 14
Hits = 6


Regards,
KFS

[Shorty]

Playing around with this a bit on DB. So far up 140u, probably only played on 20 spins or less.

Just been lucky at the moment I think, but still it's nice.

[Shorty]

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