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STANDARD DEVIATION BEATING EUROPEAN ROULETTE WHEELS???

Started by cubanopro, September 13, 2010, 03:08:49 AM

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buffalowizard

Quote from: Jean-Claud on September 13, 2010, 03:11:47 PM
If u don t bet with progression 1,1,2,3,4 then if u will win in the 5th attempt u will be -.
U don t know how to explain things...but u like to explain things.hehe

Jean Claud

He waits for TWO spins first before betting.

SO:

Virtual - Dozen 1 comes out
Virtual - Then Dozen 2 comes out

Now bet Dozen 3 with 1 unit
Loss
Now bet Dozen 3 with 1 unit
Loss
Now bet Dozen 3 with 4 units

END

Only 3 legs of progression + 2 virtual = 5

BW

Jakkalsdraai

Quote from: Jean-Claud on September 13, 2010, 03:11:47 PM
If u don t bet with progression 1,1,2,3,4 then if u will win in the 5th attempt u will be -.
U don t know how to explain things...but u like to explain things.hehe

Always got to say something hey JC............ You are as useful as a fork in a soupbowl.

cubanopro

Quote from: beretta28 on September 13, 2010, 01:16:31 PM
1)According to your experience(up and down of your deficit) what's the necessary total bankroll and  the session bankroll in units?
Stop loss and stop win?

2)If I'm not mistaken you play always the three terms progression(1,1,4)because after two spins you have either two different columns or two differents dozen almost all the time. . . .


1)According to your experience(up and down of your deficit) what's the necessary total bankroll and  the session bankroll in units?
Stop loss and stop win?

2)If I'm not mistaken you play always the three terms progression(1,1,4)because after two spins you have either two different columns or two differents dozen almost all the time. . . .

1) Hello! I would have to say that since the chance of losing is very high you need a bankroll that can back you up for some time because even though I believe the long term will be profitable you don't know what could happen along the way. I first determined my bankroll with standard deviation as well (this is an extremely useful tool)... Ok so lets say that we lose 32% of the time (even if we know it is less than that) we need to choose a number of events just like we did for this strategy.

1000 spins which equals 200 sequences of 5 spins is not a bad start.

200 * 32/100 * 68/100 = 6.5970 (this number is SQUARED ROOT)
the third standard deviation (99.7%) is 6.5970 *3= 19.7909

The mean is 200 * 32/100= 64
Which means that 99.7% of the time I will lose approximately between 44 and 84 times every 200 sequences of 5 spins. This tells us that it could happen and it would be statistically correct to win only 116 times.

Now 116 *75$ average = 8700$
84 * 150$ average = 12600$

This means that for the long term I could be down 12600- 8700= 3900$

On the other side I could also only lose 44 times and win 156 times
156 *75$= 11700$
44*150$= 6600$

This means that for the long term I could also be up 11700- 6600= 5100$
Anyways I don't want to get away from what I was saying...Your bankroll should be able to cover sufficient losses so that you don't stop playing simply because you had a bad streak. Anyhow regardless of how I did you should be able to choose your own bankroll with the calculations above. Simply choose a time frame measured in sequences of 5 spins and start doing the formula. Each person has a different tolerance for risk.

As for stop win/stop loss... I go with 5 losses since I always aimed for around 30 spins (6 sets of 5 spins) and I calculated that 99.7% of the time I should lose between 0 and 5 times in that number of spins. I don't have a stop win... I simply go for 30 spins and take my winnings or the minute I lose 5 sequences I am gone for the day.  

2) I do not always play the three terms progression. Sometimes I do not bet, other times only one bet, other times only two bets... It really depends on what the results are. I am also not ready yet to bet on rows...After a while it becomes a lot to do and I just keep on with the dozens. In a near future if I want to make more money all I'll have to do is bet more.

Cubano  

cubanopro

I would like to thanks Jakkalsdraai and buffalowizard for their comments. Thank you guys!

Quote from: Jean-Claud on September 13, 2010, 03:11:47 PM
If u don t bet with progression 1,1,2,3,4 then if u will win in the 5th attempt u will be -.
U don t know how to explain things...but u like to explain things.hehe

Hey man you don't even know me and you're already saying that I don't know how to explain things?? You better be careful next time you write something...you might realise you're the one who's not following well the explanation. If you're not happy with this system that I'm only proposing then don't bother reading, this is only for those who want.

Cubano

Far-Q

Quote from: cubanopro on September 13, 2010, 02:49:06 PM
I'm not sure what you mean by this but if what you are referring to is if I wait after a loss or win the answer is yes.
I always wait for the 5 spins to finish (loss or win).

Hope this clears up your question!

Cubano


Thanks exactly what i meant. Thanks for your reply


Jean-Claud


Jakkalsdraai

Quote from: Jean-Claud on September 13, 2010, 04:41:53 PM
yes Jakk and I look at u...u are so usefull! :sarcastic:

At least I read posts and understand what I read............Ever heard of 'look before you leap" Guess not.... Leap away amateur.

TicTacToe

Hi Cubano

First of all let me say that your casino might be mine too, cuz my casino also has 25$ min outside bet.

Ok now for your method:

You say you have 3 betting sequences. : 25,25,100,...25,50,...25

You play series of 5 spins ...

What signals you to play 3 bets or 2 bets or 1 bet ???

Thanks

TTT

cubanopro

Is there someone here who can code this system to truly see if what I'm saying makes any sense at all? If so profits could be impressive in the long term. Lets work togheter and see if we might have something valuable here.

Cubano

Nathan Detroit

During my 30 years of  experience playing roulette I have  never seen any one  winning  at roulette with math alone.  This  is NOT a  reply , I repeat , not a reply to the original author.

But would  anyone  take  just a few minutes   with a cup of  COMMON SENSE and just  take  the  second  dozen as  an example  and check those numbers on the single  0 wheel  for their positions  . You will see they are spread so far  apart  that  one  could not even  hit them with a buck shot.( Just look for the gaps  between them.


TO: CUBANOPRO

If you coud take the  time and effort to look nto this matter what I just  gave a  hinf  regarding those  numbers   being spread out and place bet according to the 12 numbers in each dozen then you really got the casino  by the balls.

Compile your OWN 3  dozens !!!


I know  the numbers  on the  single 0 wheel are of   a different  wheel sequence. But nothing  comes easy.

Nathan Detroit.

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medo

Quote from: Jakkalsdraai on September 13, 2010, 04:45:20 PM
At least I read posts and understand what I read............Ever heard of 'look before you leap" Guess not.... Leap away amateur.
:clapping: :clapping: :good: :good: :good:

cubanopro

Quote from: TicTacToe on September 13, 2010, 04:50:48 PM
Hi Cubano

First of all let me say that your casino might be mine too, cuz my casino also has 25$ min outside bet.

Ok now for your method:

You say you have 3 betting sequences. : 25,25,100,...25,50,...25

You play series of 5 spins ...

What signals you to play 3 bets or 2 bets or 1 bet ???

Thanks

TTT

Hi Tictactoe (cool name by the way!)
Thanks for your post. What I do is wait for 2 dozens to show up and then I bet on the missing one. Since I cannot exceed 5 spins because of the law of the first standard deviation (68%), depending when the two dozens appear I make my move. If they appear at the very beginning I have to bet a maximum of three times. For example:

1, 2,.....this means that I now bet on dozen 3 and since there were only 2 spins there is a chance that I might bet for 3 spins.
1,2,1....still no third dozen and still a maximum of two bets to come.
1,2,1,0....still no third dozen and still one more and final bet. If I win the next one I restart looking for other missing dozens and if I lose I still do the same. The progression cannot exceed a total of three bets.
1,2,1,0,3....We have a winner...restart again!

Hope it helps!
Cubano

cubanopro

Quote from: Nathan Detroit on September 13, 2010, 04:54:32 PM
During my 30 years of  experience playing roulette I have  never seen any one  winning  at roulette with math alone.  This  is NOT a  reply , I repeat , not a reply to the original author.

But would  anyone  take  just a few minutes   with a cup of  COMMON SENSE and just  take  the  second  dozen as  an example  and check those numbers on the single  0 wheel  for their positions  . You will see they are spread so far  apart  that  one  could not even  hit them with a buck shot.( Just look for the gaps  between them.


TO: CUBANOPRO

If you coud take the  time and effort to look nto this matter what I just  gave a  hinf  regarding those  numbers   being spread out and place bet according to the 12 numbers in each dozen then you really got the casino  by the balls.

Compile your OWN 3  dozens !!!


I know  the numbers  on the  single 0 wheel are of   a different  wheel sequence. But nothing  comes easy.

Nathan Detroit.


I'm sorry but I'm afraid I don't understand what is it exactly that you're asking me to do... You want me to look at the gap between the numbers of the second dozen on a single 0 wheel? Why is that useful? What difference does it make the gap there is in between them? Could you reformulate your question again if you don't mind please?

Thanks in advance!
Cubano

PS: By the way I only play on single 0 wheels (notice the title of this thread which mentions European roulette)

Nathan Detroit

Cubanopor,

I am  NOT an idiot and am reading every single  line and I KNOW that I was   referring to the single  0 wheel .
You did  a good job  setting up your  system. You DID BLARE IT LOUD enough that it  is a method for a single  0 wheel.

I am in no way critical of it  For my sake  you can play  the # 0 and the  # 36  and I would not give a rat`s tail what you play.

I only threw in a hint. Case closed . I am not from the debating society.


Wishing you  the best of  luck.



N.D.

CLARIFICATION:


My idea : If you target a dozen all those  numbers  might best be sequential  like  the   Grand game  ( 17 numbers) 0 with 8 numbers  on each side. Or the orphans, , the Orphelins or for that matter   tiers de  cylindre.

cubanopro

Quote from: Nathan Detroit on September 13, 2010, 05:46:06 PM
Cubanopor,

I am  NOT an idiot and am reading every single  line and I KNOW that I was   referring to the single  0 wheel .
You did  a good job  setting up your  system. You DID BLARE IT LOUD enough that it  is a method for a single  0 wheel.

I am in no way critical of it  For my sake  you can play  the # 0 and the  # 36  and I would not give a rat`s tail what you play.

I only threw in a hint. Case closed . I am not from the debating society.


Wishing you  the best of  luck.



N.D.

CLARIFICATION:


My idea : If you target a dozen all those  numbers  might best be sequential  like  the   Grand game  ( 17 numbers) 0 with 8 numbers  on each side. Or the orphans, , the Orphelins or for that matter   tiers de e cylindre.


Ok I would like to apologize if I offended you in any way (which clearly I have according to your tone)...I never said or mention or even insinuated that you were an idiot simply because I said that I was playing on a single 0 wheel. My apologies for that, I guess that writing can sometimes give a false tone to persons... Now I want to do what you previously asked it's just that I still don't get what you're saying.

Again sorry for the misunderstanding... It wasn't my intention..

Cubano

cubanopro

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