A very accurate and true post by an other forum member!

[Jean-Claud]

You should know that all systems are same!There are no good and bad systems.
Every system has an Achilles heel and it is more than enough to make it a loser.
whatever you will be doing with any system you will always in the long run lose close to the -2.7.

I was like you before a couple of years...all the time making systems.

Unfortunarelly it is a full waste of time,because no one can Trap the Randomness.
The Randomness will always find the way to tank all the systems.
And all these because of the advantage of the  Simple Maths that is always to the Roulette favour!
You will always have 37 numbers on the wheel and you will always be payed with 35 chips after a win in a sungle number.
Exactly the same is happening with all the bets (Doz.col.Ecs etc)

Try to understand that I am on your side!!! But I am just trying to save your free time

I know 100% that this game is an obsession!
We all think that by finding the consistent winning system we will abandon our day jobs and start being millioners!
Yes it a very nice dream!The best!
But If you are a long time in the forums you will realise that the members that were telling that they had a winning system were LAYING all of them or they thought that they had a winnier but after some more testing spins they were finding out that their system was also a loser like all the other systems!

Roulette is the ONLY Casino game that all the people want to explore it so much!
And this is because there is the number BOARD with the past outcomes!
people think that the past spins can help them to predict according to a system the best betting position!
This is just a Gambling Fallacy!

There are some people that claim that they have a long term winner!
BUT no one has ever posted ONE! why? because it doesn't exist and it can t exist because the Maths can t allow it!
And the 80% of the people that were claiming that they had a winning system thwy were exposed as scams!

2reason for someone to claim he has a winning system
a)sell the system and make money from it!(because they can t make with it money in real)
b)gain a little glory among the members in the forums

Both reasons are SCAMS!!

In all the forums the same story goes on and on for decades!

The Newbies are trying to beat the game(because they don't know that it can t been beaten)
The old members are doing 2 things!
a)they are leaving the forums and the game because they finally realised that it can t been beaten
b)They are staying in the forums because they are addected but they are just there to descrise the newbies systems because they know the hard truth!That Roulette can t been beaten!

[gizmotron]

You should know that all systems are same!There are no good and bad systems.
Every system has an Achilles heel and it is more than enough to make it a loser.
whatever you will be doing with any system you will always in the long run lose close to the -2.7.

I was like you before a couple of years...all the time making systems.

Unfortunately it is a full waste of time,because no one can Trap the Randomness.
The Randomness will always find the way to tank all the systems.

Funny thing about you is that you see that everything has an achilles heel yet you don't have a way to deal with it. That is clear. So you interpret the meaning of that after concluding that failure is all anyone  can achieve. So now you are recruiting believers in your own scam of failure. You have your convenient crutch, a belief that a 2.7 average is a continuous condition, irregardless of the randomness that you use selectively and conveniently as your primary excuse.

Not only do you not understand randomness but you don't know how it applies to its own nature. Here's some more. All people that sell roulette advice have not been proven to be scammers. I have not been proven to be a scammer. My motive is not monetary gain. It's the way I want the story told. I want a few people to get the casino's money before the great throng of been there to late crowd wrecks it for everyone. But you can't understand that can you. You have invested your experience with gambling in your own story. Your story of failure.

Now pout with your endless drone of pain. That's what you are good at.

[NS]

You really need to move on.

[gizmotron]

You really need to move on.

I stand behind my awareness of randomness and its characteristics. I don't care if math oriented players need to dismiss it as garbage. They need to move on.

[Jean-Claud]

Gizmotron
Just sell ur scaming advice and do not post in this topic..I know it is not a good promotion for ppl to watch this thread but jumping in here will not change anything!

NS

who has to move on?

[Spike!]

If Gizmo spent half as much time in the casino with his never lose system as he does on forums bragging about himself like a broken record, he'd be much farther ahead. I thought he said he was leaving for good. Fat chance.

[gizmotron]

Yeah right, you rip randomness. You clearly have not thought out the implications of your own advice, and now this thread is your very own personal command post. Never mind that you brought it up in a public forum. Yeah, go ahead and blast away with your 2.7 %. That's your nuclear option.

[gizmotron]

If Gizmo spent half as much time in the casino with his never lose system as he does on forums bragging about himself like a broken record, he'd be much farther ahead. I thought he said he was leaving for good. Fat chance.

Because of you lightweight, I've decided to expand the probability that the story will come to the light of day. The $500 is to attract only seriouse students. Your $10,000 was just to rip people off. You have nothing but your 72% and your $7 watches. I was your convenient ally. I just fell into your lap. Now go bite some tires.

[Mr J]

"People think that the past spins can help them to predict according to a system the best betting position!
This is just a Gambling Fallacy" >>> No different than AP, thats also gamblers fallacy. I think (but could be wrong) there are a couple of method people (I'm one of them) that will NOT post a B+ or A- or A method because......they did MOST of the hard work involved over YEARS, why GIVE IT AWAY? I'm not looking to be begged, I delete those emails FAST. Besides, thats not counting the goofballs that will RIP the method publicly and then go play it. Thats not counting the goofballs that will make some money from it and I dont get a 'thank you'.  Ken

[Jean-Claud]

Gizmotrom
If u really had a winning method(by reading randomness as u say) u would be a millioner by now and u wouldn t need from poor ppl 500 $....only a scam would ask money from ppl to tell his method...because when u have one u can make as much money as u like!

Spike

Look who is talking!   The donkey said to the bird that it has a big head!

You 2 are the bigest losers of all times!

[NS]

I stand behind my awareness of randomness and its characteristics. I don't care if math oriented players need to dismiss it as garbage. They need to move on.

I was addressing the topic starter.

NS

who has to move on?

You.

Decide either:

1) Systems work. (if you're that much of a noob)
2) Systems don't work, but VB does.
3) Systems and VB don't work.

Pick one, and move on.

Such topics have been posted to death.

[Jean-Claud]

VB and Bias Work! If u can find the correct conditions to play.This is my opinion.

do u have a winning long method that doesn t include the phisics of the game?

[Mr J]

"VB and Bias Work! If u can *FIND* the correct conditions to play" >>> I agree with this 100%.


"Systems work. (if you're that much of a noob)" >>> The problem with this statement......NOT all methods work, only a small percent do.  Ken

[Jean-Claud]

Ok Mr J.
As i can understand from ur post u have a winning system.

May I ask if it needs a Progression or if it is flat?
thanks

[Mr J]

NOT trying to be rude but I dont like your wording. Its not a system, its a method. Yes, there is a difference IMO. As far as 'winning'.....its not a HG but does well. So far, I have three losses ($3,400 per) and my NET is VERY high. Have I played 500 million spins at the casino? Of course not. Its a progression. One method is playing ONE number (2 losses) and the other is playing TWO numbers (1 loss).  Ken

[Mr J]

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