:yahoo: ;D Dear Friends,
Finally I could do what no one ever did. I am very serious. I have developed a very easy to understand system which is purely unbeatable. It gives slow but steady income. You can earn playing with live dealer online preferably beacause in that way you can earn money in the comfort of your home plus this purely winning system will remain unnoticed. I always hated the term "holy grail" but now after seeing its accuracy I can proudly call it one. Through this forum I openly challenge the entire roulette playing community to disprove me. I tell you a few things. Bankroll requirement: Minimum $1000 and maximum whatever you can have because it is safe and surefire. Table limit:1-500, it can be played on 1-100 also but when we are playing holy grail we should not take risk, I think skyvegas table having $1-$25000 would be best. Do not worry, normally you would not put more than $20 stake once. Earning: 15-50 units per hour, your unit may be $1 to $10 depending upon your capacity. Play more, earn more. Play bigger, earn bigger.
I openly call upon all roulette experts including Steve and other system authors to disprove me. For this, you can send me any session you have ever witnessed(not manipulated one, you better send me verifiable sessions) of not less than 500 spins and my winnings shall not be less than $500 and my bankroll of $1000 will never be exhausted.I would play at table limit of $5-$500 by a single technique. If anybody wants to challenge and he is serious send me spin sessions of live roulette in this thread and I will mark my winning number and total winning units here. Best of luck
G'day,
Congratulations on finding your HG!!
Now keep it to yourself like the rest of those
of us that also worked hard to develop one.
As the wise man said, 'never wise up the chumps'!!
Glenn.
Can you beat RNG?
Your challenge is meaningless. If no-one knows your system how can it be disproved? So if we send spins you will post what you would have won, do you realise how ridiculous that is and how it proves nothing?
Anyway, there is already a proof which says that NO system can win.
G'day,
Quote from: Bayes on July 09, 2010, 11:08:09 AM
Anyway, there is already a proof which says that NO system can win.
Your comment is just one of the Gamblers Fallacies that Spike has tried to explain about!
Your lack of ability to grasp this notion goes hand in hand with a lack of knowledge of
what roulette is and the subtleties that can be employed in a 'system' to make it work!
Glenn
Dear Mistarlupo,
yes this system would beat RNG too.
Dear Bayes,
Anything I post is bound to earn
and, Dear MrBaccarat,
you might not have seen a system earlier and it is time to see one.
Quote from: albalaha on July 09, 2010, 03:27:43 PM
Anything I post is bound to earn
??? bound to earn what?
Quote from: MiniBaccarat on July 09, 2010, 02:55:33 PM
G'day,
Your comment is just one of the Gamblers Fallacies that Spike has tried to explain about!
Your lack of ability to grasp this notion goes hand in hand with a lack of knowledge of
what roulette is and the subtleties that can be employed in a 'system' to make it work!
Glenn
There are no 'subtleties' to be employed. Every new spin is independent of the last. :ok:
I tried to put Spike straight on the Gambler's fallacy, unfortunately he didn't seem to understand. :'(
Quote from: Bayes on July 09, 2010, 11:08:09 AM
Anyway, there is already a proof which says that NO system can win.
There is no such proof.
If you believe there is, please post it.
Please calm down and keep an open mind. Otherwise I really wonder what are you doing here? Why are you here? What are you trying to gain and what are you trying to offer by your participation to the forum?
I tried to put Spike straight on the Gambler's fallacy, unfortunately he didn't seem to understand.>>>
Hey, just because I won't put blinders on and join your religion, doesn't mean I'm an idiot..
The main problem with you guys, you just do not accept anything new an innovative and get frustrated. Bayes and Spike didn't you see anybody winning regularly in roulette? You explain gamblers fallacy and I explain my doctrine of uneven distribution which speaks the real and practical reason of a casino winning constantly against all players and how to exploit it for your gain. Bays if you are so frustrated with this game you do not need any forum. Go and sleep. You are a frustrated and pessimist gambler, a looser. :haha:
Quote from: kav on July 09, 2010, 08:33:47 PM
There is no such proof.
If you believe there is, please post it.
Please calm down and keep an open mind. Otherwise I really wonder what are you doing here? Why are you here? What are you trying to gain and what are you trying to offer by your participation to the forum?
I do have an open mind, but it's not so open that my brain falls out. ::)
Roulette is unbeatable: FACT. But there are plenty of people who try to take advantage of the gullible by touting their systems in the hope that they will make a few $. albalaha has already posted on Victor's forum that he will be selling his system for $10,000. But if you contact him privately he may let you have it for the knock-down price of $100!
It's my belief that anyone who claims to win consistently (whether they are openly trying to sell it or not) are running a scam. If they're not deliberately misleading people then they're merely ignorant. Either way, the facts need to be given, and there are very few in evidence around here.
You'll find the mathematical proof in the wikipedia entry for 'roulette'.
Roulette is unbeatable: FACT.>>
Wrong. Geez...
It's my belief that anyone who claims to win consistently (whether they are openly trying to sell it or not) are running a scam.>>
Wrong. Geez...
>>You'll find the mathematical proof in the wikipedia entry for 'roulette'.>>
If you MathBoyz put all your favorite writings in one place, you would have a Bible for your cute little religion.
Spike, all you have is hot air. Give people credit for some intelligence, they can see through your bluster.
I totally agree. If you have the holy grail, there would be NO REASON at all to sell it, cause you have access to unlimited money stream already. So ergo selling holy grail equals SCAM.
Give people credit for some intelligence>>>
Thats a tall order. It sure is in short supply around here. You have no idea..
G'day,
Quote from: Bayes on July 10, 2010, 03:25:34 AM
Roulette is unbeatable: FACT.
It's my belief that anyone who claims to win consistently (whether they are openly trying to sell it or not) are running a scam. If they're not deliberately misleading people then they're merely ignorant.
In the past Bayes would have been saying
"Don't listen to them, they're only saying the Earth is round so they can sell you a boat"!!
Quote from: Bayes on July 09, 2010, 04:02:10 PM
There are no 'subtleties' to be employed. Every new spin is independent of the last. :ok:
SOME of the 'subtleties' are the ability to vary the amounts bet & choose when to bet or not!! :ok:
As for "Every new spin is independent of the last", that is correct,
but as I'm looking at betting on a "run' of R, R, R, R, or the Black equivalent or R, B, R, B, etc
AND these ALWAYS come up in each 200 spin 'game'
Quote from: Bayes on July 09, 2010, 04:02:10 PM
I tried to put Spike straight on the Gambler's fallacy, unfortunately he didn't seem to understand. :'(
Spike tried to put You straight on the Gambler's fallacy, unfortunately You didn't seem to understand. :'(
Glenn.
Dear KA2,
QuoteI totally agree. If you have the holy grail, there would be NO REASON at all to sell it, cause you have access to unlimited money stream already. So ergo selling holy grail equals SCAM.
please do not comment like this, where did you see me selling this holy grail?
Dear Spike,
QuoteIf you MathBoyz put all your favorite writings in one place, you would have a Bible for your cute little religion.
you are very sarcastic and humorous. I do not believe mathematics can help winning roulette otherwise Albert Einstein would not have surrendered to it.
Dear Bayes,
QuoteRoulette is unbeatable: FACT. But there are plenty of people who try to take advantage of the gullible by touting their systems in the hope that they will make a few $. albalaha has already posted on Victor's forum that he will be selling his system for $10,000. But if you contact him privately he may let you have it for the knock-down price of $100!
Firstly, my wish to sell it for money has been removed from that post upon my request, go and see again. Secondly do not ever allege anybody without knowing a fact, who the hell I offered my holy grail to sell for $100, your stepfather?
Quote from: albalaha on July 11, 2010, 03:33:03 AM
Dear KA2,please do not comment like this, where did you see me selling this holy grail?
No? I thought you were selling your system for 10.000...
Quote from: albalaha on July 11, 2010, 03:33:03 AM
Dear Bayes, Firstly, my wish to sell it for money has been removed from that post upon my request, go and see again.
Glad to hear it.
QuoteSecondly do not ever allege anybody without knowing a fact, who the hell I offered my holy grail to sell for $100, your stepfather?
I said you
may sell it for $100. The point being, that once you have made it known that it's on the market, you're likely to get offers.
My stepfather? I suppose that's supposed to be some kind of insult in your culture. I don't have one, but knock yourself out.
Quote from: MiniBaccarat on July 10, 2010, 07:54:06 PM
G'day,
SOME of the 'subtleties' are the ability to vary the amounts bet & choose when to bet or not!! :ok:
As for "Every new spin is independent of the last", that is correct,
but as I'm looking at betting on a "run' of R, R, R, R, or the Black equivalent or R, B, R, B, etc
AND these ALWAYS come up in each 200 spin 'game'
Glenn.
Is your system 100% mechanical?
Dear Bayes,
QuoteI said you may sell it for $100. The point being, that once you have made it known that it's on the market, you're likely to get offers.
Do not try to be a clairvoyant and make silly and insultive predictions. I do not tolerate nonsense and always fight liers. :nono:
G'day,
Quote from: Bayes on July 11, 2010, 04:14:25 AM
Is your system 100% mechanical?
Yes!
Glenn.
Quote from: albalaha on July 11, 2010, 04:32:46 AM
Dear Bayes, Do not try to be a clairvoyant and make silly and insultive predictions. I do not tolerate nonsense and always fight liers. :nono:
I don't tolerate nonsense either, which is why I posted in this thread in the first place. What's really insulting is you assuming we're all idiots here and can't see a sales pitch thinly disguised as a laughable challenge to 'disprove' your system. What scammers will never never never do is tell you
why they need to sell their system if it works so great. Or if they do it's something like 'I'm dying of an incurable disease and wish to pass on my hard-earned knowledge so that others may benefit and hurt the evil casinos'. Right, that's plausible. ::)
If you want to prove your system to us then why don't you take up Steve's $100,000 challenge? If it passes you'll have plenty of people eager to buy, but then why would you need them? :-\
Dear Bayes,
QuoteI don't tolerate nonsense either, which is why I posted in this thread in the first place. What's really insulting is you assuming we're all idiots here and can't see a sales pitch thinly disguised as a laughable challenge to 'disprove' your system. What scammers will never never never do is tell you why they need to sell their system if it works so great. Or if they do it's something like 'I'm dying of an incurable disease and wish to pass on my hard-earned knowledge so that others may benefit and hurt the evil casinos'. Right, that's plausible.
If you want to prove your system to us then why don't you take up Steve's $100,000 challenge? If it passes you'll have plenty of people eager to buy, but then why would you need them?
why are you so scared of my system. If you do not want to contribute to my challenge, you better stay away and don't tell me by your superman like vision. Go to rouletteforum.cc and see my posted result of a spin session provided by thomasgrant, a veteran player which he himself admitted to be very difficult. Use your superman vision there and stop calling names. see result in attached word file.
albalaha,
The reason why your challenge is meaningless is because we don't know how your system works, so you could make up the results and nobody would know any better. On the other hand, if we knew how it worked, there wouldn't be any point in us posting spins because we could do all the testing ourselves.
Quote from: albalaha on July 11, 2010, 07:02:24 AM
see my posted result of a spin session provided by thomasgrant, a veteran player which he himself admitted to be very difficult.
More gibberish. There is no such thing as a 'difficult' session. A session is only difficult with regard to a particular system. That session may in fact turn out quite easy for your system, and another 'easy' session sent in by someone else may be difficult for it.
I'd like to know why you even considered selling your system? (but I don't expect an answer).
Dear Bayes,
Empty words doesn't have any value. If you or anybody doubts that I have manipulated the results in thomas grant challenge and it is not as per any system come ahead to challenge me. I do not need a session to be easy or hard, you are righttherethat thereis no tough or easy session. My holy grail can win all sessions be it RNG or Live roulette, European or American wheel that is why it is holy grail. I will handle every session by a single method and tremendous wins everytime- upto 50% of your bankroll. Anybody else wish to give a challenging session of live roulette?
which he himself admitted to be very difficult.>>
I just looked at them, they look like a set of average spins to me. Point out where they differ from what yu are used to seeing.
Quote from: albalaha on July 12, 2010, 01:10:16 AM
Empty words doesn't have any value. If you or anybody doubts that I have manipulated the results in thomas grant challenge and it is not as per any system come ahead to challenge me.
Yes, empty words have no value, and that's all you have. A real challenge is where you don't know what's coming next, just like in a casino. Anyone can curve-fit the results like Mr Chips did with his systems.
Albalaha
If someone will ever find a HG his moves will be:
1)delete his Roulette forums accounts.
2)take the HG bank Roll needed and travel the world to get Rich.
Instead of this movements U are still here and U are breaking our BALLS!(testicls)
So U have a SHIT GRAIL.
Give up...ppl had enough
which he himself admitted to be very difficult.>>
Seriously, please show how these numbers are 'difficult'. I'm not seeing it, help me out.
Dear Bayes,
Do you want me to open my hard earned secret? The point is my system is just infallible. I have a trigger and use progression if my first attempt fails and second trigger appears. I can not tell anymore. maybe someone can understand my method after seeing my marked winnings.
I can not tell anymore.>>>
Then don't. Go to the casino and win win win, who cares if anybody knows more. You make no sense.
why are you getting so tensed to see my challenge? My challenge is not catching your a**. The main motive behind this challenge is to get different spin sessions from american, european roulette casinos as well as RNG sessions to see where my holy grail fails at last. I am not inviting you to come and give your expert comments here.
You are missing the point!!!
You give me some numbers and I will tell you how much I win. . . . even if I dont. . . thats the point here.
Quote from: albalaha on July 13, 2010, 12:50:22 AM
Dear Bayes,
Do you want me to open my hard earned secret? The point is my system is just infallible. I have a trigger and use progression if my first attempt fails and second trigger appears. I can not tell anymore. maybe someone can understand my method after seeing my marked winnings.
And yet here you are, trying so desperately to sell your info for 10 bucks....
Dear Far-Q,
why don't you accept my challenge as I mentioned if you think I manipulated my results in the challenge given by Thomas Grant. Brother, barking dogs seldom bite. You are not matured enough to understand big concepts.
Dear KA2,
I sell my system openly and accept challenges. The $10 charge is my consultancy fee for showing a path to win more and lose less. I can help for free also to needy people if someone ask for that but I am noway selling my system for such throwaway price. Forget the sale of holy grail. If I would ask for its consideration nobody would be able to pay. Are you willing to challenge my holy grail system? If you do not dare accept challenges, you are not expected to speak loud.