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Gambler's Fallacy vs Even Distribution

Started by birdhands, January 18, 2011, 12:37:30 AM

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MauiSunset

Quote from: Gizmotron on February 08, 2011, 03:51:26 PM
Typical assumption. You think it's all about forecasting, "forecast future Roulette spins." Wrong again. Please get this message. You're wrong again. GOT IT YET?

OK, set me straight....

gizmotron

Quote from: MauiSunset on February 08, 2011, 03:52:24 PM
OK, set me straight....

I charge a far too fare and reasonable price for that. I teach reading randomness. I provide practicing software that assists the learning process. And most importantly I show you how to use reading randomness in an effective way to give you an advantage you can take advantage of. I consider the $10 per hour, estimated on 30 hours of training, to be a bargain. It has proven to be a stumbling block to people that are probably cheapskates and don't have dime one to go to a casino with anyway. That's you, isn't it? You've never been to a casino. Right?

MauiSunset

Quote from: Gizmotron on February 08, 2011, 04:00:10 PM
I charge a far too fare and reasonable price for that. I teach reading randomness. I provide practicing software that assists the learning process. And most importantly I show you how to use reading randomness in an effective way to give you an advantage you can take advantage of. I consider the $10 per hour, estimated on 30 hours of training, to be a bargain. It has proven to be a stumbling block to people that are probably cheapskates and don't have dime one to go to a casino with anyway. That's you, isn't it? You've never been to a casino. Right?

So this is all a sales pitch?

Forgive me but I would never entertain the idea of paying someone $10/hr for anything but cutting my lawn and I'd bet the kids charge more than that.

Now if you charged $500/hr with some verifiable proof then that makes some sense.

You've got to raise your rates or no one will take you seriously - just a suggestion.

birdhands

This is all very sad and petty and makes me want to take my name off the thread.

gizmotron

Quote from: MauiSunset on February 08, 2011, 04:06:47 PM
So this is all a sales pitch?

Forgive me but I would never entertain the idea of paying someone $10/hr for anything but cutting my lawn and I'd bet the kids charge more than that.

Now if you charged $500/hr with some verifiable proof then that makes some sense.

You've got to raise your rates or no one will take you seriously - just a suggestion.

Thank you very much for illustrating what a bunch of idiots you people that have criticized me for more than four years really are. I know it's worth more than what I charged. It's worth the 35 years playing in real casinos and it's worth all the paychecks I lost during those times. It's worth all the computer based research I did on my own for decades. But you jerks got really uptight that I wouldn't share it. So I found a way to share it. So that makes you idiots for not taking me up on it. I have the right to sell my training for any price I want. I sold it for just the right price. I got serious students that really wanted to learn. But you want people to be impressed with you and your "I only do this for entertainment" crud. This is not an advertisement. I only take one student per month. It takes that long to learn this. I have my reasons for doing this. I've made them clear.

col1879

****************What is the most important thing to know what to do if you use trends when playing Roulette?**************

Not to keep betting on a long losing one

MauiSunset

Quote from: Gizmotron on February 08, 2011, 04:19:43 PM
Thank you very much for illustrating what a bunch of idiots you people that have criticized me for more than four years really are. I know it's worth more than what I charged. It's worth the 35 years playing in real casinos and it's worth all the paychecks I lost during those times. It's worth all the computer based research I did on my own for decades. But you jerks got really uptight that I wouldn't share it. So I found a way to share it. So that makes you idiots for not taking me up on it. I have the right to sell my training for any price I want. I sold it for just the right price. I got serious students that really wanted to learn. But you want people to be impressed with you and your "I only do this for entertainment" crud. This is not an advertisement. I only take one student per month. It takes that long to learn this. I have my reasons for doing this. I've made them clear.

I use lawyers occasionally for various things - if one of them charged $10/hr there is no way I'd ever want to use them.

You pay for what you get.

However, proof of concept is required if you want some big bucks - I'd never pay a lawyer $250/hr without verifying that the guy had a JD and his track record.

If you want to teach you've got to have a track record of some kind - demonstrating your method/technique here in real time is simple and you don't have to say what you are doing.  There are free programs that can record what you see on your monitor - capture your session and use it as a Webinar to help sell your services.

Really, I'd pay $500/hr for something that is profitable gambling - I could spend hours a day making a fortune on an internet casino.

Sign me up.........

gizmotron

Quote from: col1879 on February 08, 2011, 04:29:53 PM
****************What is the most important thing to know what to do if you use trends when playing Roulette?**************

Not to keep betting on a long losing one

Nope, but that's a good guess.

Kelly

Gizmo things are not really working for you. The casinos are still there.

col1879

**************Can some math whiz please explain to me how it's gambler's fallacy to expect red after 20 blacks when red and black are always moving toward an even distribution?************************

I still haven't seen a satisfactory answer to this yet

gizmotron

Quote from: Kelly on February 08, 2011, 04:32:10 PM
Gizmo things are not really working for you. The casinos are still there.

Nobody has disclosed my concepts yet. Even more important is that nobody has figured it out on their own yet either. But that's OK. There's still time to do research and win a prize for advanced mathematical research. It would be a shame that you guys would miss this one to someone like me. Someone that said you were wrong all along. I can blow the whistle any time I want to. I can shake everything up whenever I want to. Just consider this. You are not worth shaking things up for. You don't amount to a hill of beans. That's the real conclusion here.

MauiSunset

Quote from: col1879 on February 08, 2011, 04:38:19 PM
**************Can some math whiz please explain to me how it's gambler's fallacy to expect red after 20 blacks when red and black are always moving toward an even distribution?************************

I still haven't seen a satisfactory answer to this yet

I am no math wizard but:

Why stop at the past 20 blacks?  Why not go back 10,000 spins of a Roulette wheel?

If you did you'd see that out of every 37 spins (European wheel):

1 Green 0
18 Reds
18 Blacks

Picking the past 20 spins is gibberish - not enough of a sample.

ALL statistics tells us is what you can figure out with a calculator:
Green 1/37 or 2.7% tax to play the game
Red 18/37 or 48.65%
Black 18/37 or 48.65%

Anything else is just voodoo math.........

col1879

*****************What is the most important thing to know what to do if you use trends when playing Roulette?*****************

To start betting when a winning one begins

***************** You don't amount to a hill of beans. That's the real conclusion here.*******************

Not bad. Personally, I would have gone with 'You are but an ant. Before me you rightly tremble' (only joking) ;D

MauiSunset

Quote from: Gizmotron on February 08, 2011, 04:43:12 PM
Nobody has disclosed my concepts yet. Even more important is that nobody has figured it out on their own yet either. But that's OK. There's still time to do research and win a prize for advanced mathematical research. It would be a shame that you guys would miss this one to someone like me. Someone that said you were wrong all along. I can blow the whistle any time I want to. I can shake everything up whenever I want to. Just consider this. You are not worth shaking things up for. You don't amount to a hill of beans. That's the real conclusion here.

Oh come on now - someone has figured out your system and is now living on their own yacht cruising various European countries making a fortune playing Roulette and on the Internet just for kicks.

They have tough others to win a Roulette and pay him a percentage.

Then those folks have recruited folks who pay them a fee and recruit more folks.  A great pyramid scheme.

Sounds like you've missed the boat...........

darrynf

Quote from: col1879 on February 08, 2011, 04:50:08 PM
*****************What is the most important thing to know what to do if you use trends when playing Roulette?*****************

To start betting when a winning one begins

the problem here is you never really know when a winning trend is as this can turn into a bad trend anytime and vice vera

***************** You don't amount to a hill of beans. That's the real conclusion here.*******************

Not bad. Personally, I would have gone with 'You are but an ant. Before me you rightly tremble' (only joking) ;D

the

darrynf

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