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Main => Money Management => Topic started by: Robin Hood on December 24, 2010, 12:43:05 AM

Title: progressive vs flat betting
Post by: Robin Hood on December 24, 2010, 12:43:05 AM
I have just stared to play the 50/50 progressive betting series.
Can you guys tell me what the longest streaks with the same even or same colour has come
up in a row.
For example yesterday I hit 12 red in a row which made my bankroll go to zero.
Should I really use a progressive system or is flat systems better and more relaxing to use?

I wondering about what is best to go with.
Title: Re: progressive vs flat betting
Post by: birdhands on December 24, 2010, 01:28:43 AM
12 is nothing; it gets much much worse. 
Title: Re: progressive vs flat betting
Post by: kav on December 24, 2010, 03:38:10 AM
In fact 12 times the same color is quite rare. But it's not the maximum. If you play quite often, after years you can even observe even 18 consecutive same EC outcomes.

Flat betting is nothing. It is no system. It doesn't offer any advantage.
Finding an advantageous way to play is no easy task and do not expect or believe easy answers. If you want to  become a good roulette player, you need to think, to study and to learn hard earned lessons. There is no free meal.
Title: Re: progressive vs flat betting
Post by: birdhands on December 24, 2010, 10:44:07 AM
Some would say that if your system doesn't win flat-betting, it won't win with a progression.
Title: Re: progressive vs flat betting
Post by: kav on December 25, 2010, 09:23:13 PM
The opposite is true:
If it can't win with a progression, it is impossible to win just by flat betting.
Title: Re: progressive vs flat betting
Post by: iggiv on December 25, 2010, 09:36:02 PM
the last 2 statements are arguable. for example mr J with his is experience does not agree with that. maybe some systems have more hits say within 10 to 20 spins after.

it is hard to say for sure.
Title: Re: progressive vs flat betting
Post by: kav on December 27, 2010, 05:47:27 AM
Give me any bet selection that wins with flat betting and I can make it win (more) with a progression. As simple as that.
Title: Re: progressive vs flat betting
Post by: Far-Q on December 27, 2010, 06:35:41 AM
I think if you look back in the archives,( not so long ago), 24 blacks were observed in DublinBet...very rare true...but as has been pointed out it does happen.
Title: Re: progressive vs flat betting
Post by: schoenpoetser on December 27, 2010, 10:27:29 AM
IN my shoeshineboymodel you wager on a row of 20 will not fall.Try and see.The download is free.
Every sample of 150 spins gives a profit of about 65 units
Title: Re: progressive vs flat betting
Post by: birdhands on December 27, 2010, 12:49:05 PM
Quote from: kav on December 27, 2010, 05:47:27 AM
Give me any bet selection that wins with flat betting and I can make it win (more) with a progression. As simple as that.

I certainly agree with this, but it doesn't mean the opposite is true.
Title: Re: progressive vs flat betting
Post by: schoenpoetser on December 28, 2010, 02:04:25 PM
If you will compare the two bets then you should objectively compare the profitpercentage of the total betting.The number of units isn`t objective!!
Title: Re: progressive vs flat betting
Post by: darrynf on January 19, 2011, 07:01:07 AM
when you use flat betting then you need to win more then you lose.

so meaning it can lose, if you use progression you will win more but when you lose you loss much more.

i think a good system relies on both, you want more wins but not to the point of using a progression all the time.
i think using a combination of the two is far better with the right system.
Title: Re: progressive vs flat betting
Post by: EddessaKnight on January 22, 2011, 10:37:23 PM
Greetings Ingrid (Red Hood)

Regarding your inquery on proven power progressions, I am pleased to put before you *"THE FUTURE GAMBLER" -(The New Era of the Winning Player) by Craig Greiner, Publisher: TreasureBay Books ISBN: 0-9644041-0-9.
The author has written revolutionary methodologies for all forms of games & speculation including trading on the stocks.

The 'MONNGOSE PROGRESSIVE' is one of the very best for 50/50 game plans I have seen anywhere.

Do like your #27 trigger concept & would like to learn more. I also am a serious out of the box solution seeker

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Title: Re: progressive vs flat betting
Post by: Allin on March 09, 2011, 11:59:43 AM
Progression Bets :- It cannot overcome sleepers

Flat Bets :- It cannot overcome house edge

So tie... :girl_wacko:
Title: Re: progressive vs flat betting
Post by: darrynf on March 09, 2011, 04:58:34 PM
whats the mongose progression ?

@allen

im not sure if i agree with you allen, i think flat bets can overcome the house edge, my system takes away the house edge but it also uses some progression.

i guess you are right to a certain extinct but i use flat betting as well, i dont have to worry about sleepers though as it never happens, otherwise i would win often.

like i said before, a system should use both, progression should be used to gain back money and not all the time and bets shouldnt be made every spin, but then again its up to the player.
Title: Re: progressive vs flat betting
Post by: EddessaKnight on March 09, 2011, 09:35:52 PM
My recomended reading of Future Gambler for conventional  players in all form of speculation is in the same spirit that Niccolò Machiavelli wrote circa 16th Century  "THE PRINCE" i.e. if one would be a prince, he should act in certain ways to be effective-  like wise if a gambler is commited to standard orthodox systems or mthodologies then the application of Future Gambling  wagering could prove most effective under the circumsrances.

Aye Allenthe Mongoose, by itself, won't change your odds or negative game expectaions but coul help you lose less & play longer. There are limits to negative streaks and Under the right circumstances slepers can be outrued. Even the much mailigend Martingale has it's place with certain spot bets and has been a popular choice for betters ever since a Magician demonstrated the infallibility of doubling up to Pharoah. And although casinos have attempted to defeat it with caps on bets it still survives in Keno, Sports Books wher players do chase numbers & teams as well as deep pockets allow. The Agressive Moongose is the Cadillac of the power parlay progressions and has been used on Wall Street to recoup loses.

@darrtnf. I am interested in seeing your system in action,do you have a positive expectation rate, perhaps the Future Gambler would enhance your bottom line results. PM me & perhaps I can write up the Mongoose sequence for your application.

Good Luck.
EddessaKnight