Hi Grats bjb for your section..
But beating roulette is not that easy, roulete is random and basicli in theory it can repeat one number over and over.
but still most common sense bet for me is when one dozen hits 4 times bet the other ones and maybe zero for safety.. But mostly i dont play outside bets i am concentrating on sectors checking if left half doesnt hit for a while i bet it..
cya
Thanks VLS for setting this up.
Rules of this section...
No nonsense about training your mind to predict numbers.
No baseless systems - this covers most of the systems
I've read about e.g. betting on a number because another
number hit recently.
No posts which don't add something of value e.g. "G'day Mate,
nice to see you're back".
Anything else I don't like.
Well, guess there mightn't be many posts in this
section but we'll have to wait and see.
Just want thoughtful ideas particularly on using
logic and mathematics.
Also would welcome notes from those who have
used RNGs but not the kind of negative things such
as "They let you win in play mode but when you
play with real money...".
Unless, of course, you have solid verifiable proof.
So let's get down to some serious thinking.
PS When replying to a post please deselect "Quote" as
there's no point in having the same information repeated
and it's tiresome scrolling through them to get to the
next post.
Hey BJB, I can tell -for sure- I'm eager for reading your posts regarding your gambling framework and actual way of playing and facing roulette at this section.
I think you cant win with any system/strategy Its all about money management.
Stick with one system/strategy you like playing. set a stop/ win/loss and use your bankroll accordingly.
I see so many people out there with a bankroll of 500, trying to squeeze out a 100 per day, thats not gonna work, trust me.
My bankroll is 5000, and I use a 1000 session bankroll, and I play only 2 sessions per day with a 50 stop per session.
Hi there,
[edit]Just want thoughtful ideas particularly on using
logic and mathematics. :o [/edit]
Hahaha...... i thought this section was about using your common sense..... Like i said in the first reply, which was deleted, roulette is an physical game. So lett's start there and leave for once mathematics out......
Carlitos 8-)
Ka2 "I think you cant win with any system/strategy Its all about money management".
So do you mean just put your chips anywhere and as long as you have good
"money management" you'll end with more chips than you started with?
Don't think so.
Carlitos
You first post wasn't deleted by me...just went down an
electronic black hole.
"Hahaha...... I thought this section was about using your common sense".
Yes, it is about using "common sense" which includes logic and mathematics.
Any suggestions for other things in the "common sense" catagory?
........... i think another of my post went down the electronic blackhole..... :o
Carlitos 8-)
Bj
I will ask a question about distribution.
Let's flip a perfectly fair coin 1,000 times. Let's assume we had 500 H and 500 T.
If we could get it into a pyramid it would look something like this
T H
T T H H
T T T H H H
T T T T H H H H
T T T T T H H H H H and so on and so forth.
In a perfect distribution of H and T, how many times would T become H? We "could" have 500 tails and then 500 heads, so T would turn to H only one time. Not in the real world! We could have a perfect alteration of T H T H T H and so on until there were 500 of each. No, not really. But somewhere in the realm of probabilities lies the answer. Try as I might I cannot figure it out.
I am asking anyone and everyone!
(If this post does not conform to your guidelines, feel free to delete it.)
TwoCat
Seems to me that the answer is
somewhere between 1 and 500.
The average would be 250.
But if we knew the exact answer we'd all
be rich.
..................Twocatsam, you are looking at the outcome of the end results of an distribution. If the end results are being distributed why not look at the distribution itself......
Carlitos 8-)
Hi TCS,
your triangle is wrong.
presume the first is a T
then the next can be a T or an H
that looks like this:
Quote. . . . . . T
. . . . . T H
. . . . T H T
. . . T H T H
. . T H T H T
. T H T H T H
T H T H T H T
if you want for H at first, then kill the left row of Ts
br
winkel
............... or
T
HT
TTH
HHHT
.............. etc... :)
It is al possible!! But why look at this way...... use your common sense!!
Carlitos 8-)
Hi carlitos,
you were doing the outcame
i were doing the probabilities
so what´s up witrh commeon sense?
......... no..... mine could also be an probability..... probability is to give an certain outcome.......right?
Carlitos 8-)
If people talk together and try to find a common sense, they should use the same words and meanings. otherwise ther will be no common sense.
You are talking about the outcome and are listing it in a triangle way.
I'm talking about the possible decision probably following a certain outcome.
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you are describing the way throug this decision-board.
i think i have to stop this discussion, when youre trying to make the mickey out of it.
............ sorry but i not trying to mickey you out....... doesn't the probality turn into an outcome? I think so..... however you do not know which probality otherwise you would know the outcome.......
But what produces the outcome.......? The probality does not pay you the rent.... because you do not know which one is coming up...... The outcome is an fact.
Carlitos 8-)
To discuss the way you do:
The outcome ist worth as much as yesterdays newspaper.
But if you look at my triangle you will see some facts, that are worth thinking about.
If you had an fair outcome THTHTHT....
You would go vertically down!!!!!
If there had been a row of "H" it seems to be forced to go back to the middle.
br
winkel
....... perhaps we have different views on this " common sense " section. Yah, but the outcome determines your payment ...... or not....... :o
Carlitos 8-)
If there are different views on common sense, there is no common sense possible.
so I quit
You do not have to quit...... realy......
Carlitos 8-)
I like winke's triangle and copied it to Word before he has the chance to take it down.
People, I don't think I'm asking the question right.
Sorry...........
TwoCat
QuoteI like winke's triangle and copied it to Word before he has the chance to take it down.
That will follow me a while, I think. No need for this, TCS
Quote
People, I don't think I'm asking the question right.
Sorry...........
TwoCat
Questions can´t be wrong, only answers can be stupid.
br
winkel
I would just like to throw some ideas around, maybe somebody can add to this. I feel the secret has to be out there somewhere.
To me the most common thing to make sense would be to have two betting systems that cover half of the table each. (I am sure there is a decent mathematical system out there that covers half the table.)
Common sense tells me, play both of them on 1 table, at the same time. When 1 wins the other loses, and vise versa.
Mild progression??, long losing sessions on one bet are softened by the other bet winning??
Any idea's??
I believe that any system which relies on only
one way of selecting bets or only one way of
selecting numbers bets will fail.
Using a number of systems and multiple selection
methods to filter the possibilities down to a
manageable number is the only chance of winning
consistently.
I've not heard of any system which covers only
half of the numbers but it's worth some
thought. High/Low divides the numbers so might
be a starting point.
Kid77
There is a system which plays the Martingale on each street. Twelve of them! Takes two people to play it; each with 6 streets. If the Martingale goes too high, it is averaged over all streets.
I'll look up the name for you.
Sam
Yes please gizmotron.
Always willing to learn.
Mark
Bring it on. My brain ain't haf full.
Sam
BJB007
"I've not heard of any system which covers only
half of the numbers but it's worth some
thought. High/Low divides the numbers so might
be a starting point."
problem with using a system based on high/low, I did 10 000 000 spins on Roulette extreme and high/low had no shows for a maximum of 40 +.
I have been looking into splits, but need more testing, to cover half the table with 9 units, payout being 17, so you could use a slow progression on the bets not winning, while the other half is winning, maybe a +coup on the winning half?
Possibly bet on splits using a street/line method as a base to track the bets.
Divide the table in half, but not high low, maybe bet 1 can be made up of splits on lines 1-6, 13-18 & 25-30,
bet 2 made up of splits on lines 7-12, 19-24 & 31-36.
Giz, that definately looks intresting, I will see if I can get ,my head around it.
gizmotron
Am I right in assuming that "L,M,H" is your
way of referring to dozens and "B,M,T" to
columns?
gizmo
From your chart of spins above the only thing
I've been able to see is that on the line where
number 4 hit R/B, H/L and O/E all had 16 hits.
What next?