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Title: CHICKEN DINNER TESTS LOHNRO'S DOUBLE STREETS + LANKY'S DIVISOR + VLS' 50% MM
Post by: ChickenDinner on October 14, 2008, 03:02:14 PM
CHICKEN DINNER TESTS LOHNRO'S DOUBLE STREETS + LANKY'S DIVISOR + VLS' 50% MM

CHICKEN'S RULES:

- MINIMUM BET IS 2 UNITS PER LINE.

- BET FOR 1 CYCLE ONLY: 1 LINE FOR A MAX OF 6 SPINS, 2 LINES FOR A MAX OF 3.

- BET EVERY TIME 1 OR 2 LINES HAVE HIT TWICE IN 18 SPINS (SOMETIMES BETTING A CYCLE OF THE SAME LINE/S ON THE BOUNCE IF THE ALERT IS ACTIVE).

SAFETY BREAK: DO NOT BET AFTER A MISSED BETTING CYCLE: WAIT FOR A VIRTUAL HIT WITHIN A CYCLE BEFORE BETTING AGAIN. IF YOU THEN MISS ANOTHER CYCLE AGAIN, WAIT FOR 2 HITS BEFORE BETTING AGAIN.

- BETS ARE CALCULATED USING LANKY'S 6 POINT DIVISOR (DIVISOR GOES UP 1 AFTER 8 LOSSES ON A SINGLE LINE & 4 LOSSES ON 2 LINES; DIVISOR GOES DOWN 1 AFTER A WIN).

- IF YOU HIT OVER YOUR TARGET, USE EXTRA UNITS TO CONTINUE BETTING. HOWEVER, QUIT AFTER THE FIRST LOST BET.

- IF YOU GET TO AROUND 100-150 SPINS AND HAVE NOT YET HIT TARGET (10% OF BR), TRY TO BREAK EVEN AND QUIT THE SESSION.


1st 20 Hamburg sessions: 20 wins, 0 losses  :):

1.   22/9: 20 TARGET: WIN 20; 96 SPINS, DD 12
2.   23/9: 20 TARGET: WIN 20; 30 SPINS, DD 8
3.   24/9: 20 TARGET: WIN 26; 45 SPINS, DD 0
4.   25/9: 20 TARGET: WIN 23; 49 SPINS, DD 23
5.   27/8: 20 TARGET: WIN 12; 150 SPINS, DD 47
6.   26/9: 25 TARGET: WIN 29; 136 SPINS, DD 48
7.   28/9: 25 TARGET: WIN 29; 50 SPINS, DD 24
8.   29/9: 25 TARGET: WIN 25; 140 SPINS, DD 13
9.   31/8: 25 TARGET: WIN 19; 108 SPINS, DD 69
10.   2/10: 30 TARGET: WIN 34; 54 SPINS, DD 6
11.   1/10: 30 TARGET: WIN 30; 42 SPINS, DD 0
12.   21/9: 30 TARGET: WIN 41; 31 SPINS; DD 0
13.   20/9: 35 TARGET: WIN 61; 51 SPINS; DD 7
14.   19/9: 35 TARGET: WIN 16; 150 SPINS; DD 34
15.   18/9: 35 TARGET: WIN 11; 148 SPINS; DD 40
16.   17/9: 40 TARGET: WIN 40; 34 SPINS; DD 8
17.   16/9: 40 TARGET: WIN 40; 45 SPINS; DD 0
18.   15/9: 40 TARGET: WIN 46; 29 SPINS; DD 0
19.   14/9: 45 TARGET: WIN 45; 32 SPINS; DD 9
20.   13/9: 45 TARGET: WIN 46; 27 SPINS; DD 4

MAIN BANK ROLL: 506.5 (starting bank 200)
2ND BANK: 200
3RD BANK: 106.5
TOTAL PROFIT: 613 UNITS

I'm glad to find that my results are mirroring Hamsup's test. What's also great is that the average draw down is still tiny, a very good sign for the system! I'll take this bad boy live once I've made 5,000 units. I know it doesn't prove that it is long term winner, but that will be good enough for me.  ;)

Cheers,
CD 

Title: Re: CHICKEN DINNER TESTS LOHNRO'S DOUBLE STREETS + LANKY'S DIVISOR + VLS' 50% MM
Post by: TwoCatSam on October 14, 2008, 03:27:02 PM
CD

Wouldn't you know I'd have a question!?

Look at your first line:

1.   22/9 20 TARGET: WIN 20; 96 SPINS, DD 12

Is the red your win target?  You want to win 20?  The green says you did win 20?

The 22/9.. Is that your divisor.  If so, would you explain it?  Are you dividing 22 by 9?  Around 2.5u?

Are lines 10 and 11 a misprint?

2/10 or 1/10.
Sam
Title: Re: CHICKEN DINNER TESTS LOHNRO'S DOUBLE STREETS + LANKY'S DIVISOR + VLS' 50% MM
Post by: ChickenDinner on October 14, 2008, 03:43:06 PM
Hi Sam,

The blue is the Hamburg date, the red is the win target, the green is the result. No misprint, for some reason I couldn't download the Hamburg dates I wanted while testing, so I had to run the test in a funny date order (I am now testing the dates in reverse date order to fill out the gaps).

Oh yeah, for the purposes of clarity, I was going to use the VLS' charting commands, but couldn't find them on the site. Could you please PM them to me so I can in future. 

Cheers,
CD
Title: Re: CHICKEN DINNER TESTS LOHNRO'S DOUBLE STREETS + LANKY'S DIVISOR + VLS' 50% MM
Post by: TwoCatSam on October 14, 2008, 04:22:54 PM
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1,2,3,4,5,6
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This is how it looks.

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This,is,how,you,do,it
1,2,3,4,5,6
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Title: Re: CHICKEN DINNER TESTS LOHNRO'S DOUBLE STREETS + LANKY'S DIVISOR + VLS' 50% MM
Post by: MattyMattz on October 14, 2008, 05:25:00 PM
By jov Samster - I think you like those chart more than I!!

Great results CD - I really need to test out that DS more... my results were a little hit or miss, but they did show promise.

Cheers,
Matt
Title: Re: CHICKEN DINNER TESTS LOHNRO'S DOUBLE STREETS + LANKY'S DIVISOR + VLS' 50% MM
Post by: TicTacToe on October 14, 2008, 05:27:29 PM
Is there a program that changes a mouse cursor into a gun or rifle ? Would like to kill the moving Chicken(dinner) on the left. Can't concentrate on the post ... always being diverted to the moving Chicken(dinner).


Ok people, I'm not serious ... just joking ... been kinda tense around here lately.


TTT

PS Forgot to mention ... LOOKS GREAT CD !!!



Title: Re: CHICKEN DINNER TESTS LOHNRO'S DOUBLE STREETS + LANKY'S DIVISOR + VLS' 50% MM
Post by: Tucktuckster on October 14, 2008, 05:36:02 PM
I'm going to test this one aswell. I like it.

I like the idea of 6 and stop. I like the idea of using the divisor. I like the MM.

I will start tomorrow and will aim for a session when i can a day but it could be that 4 or 5 a week is max i can do. I will base it on dublinbet. Probably table 1. I will test with small values since they say you should only gamble what you can afford to lose and I like testing with real money. It helps my concentration.

I will play to 2 lost bankrolls from my pocket of 200u each.

The questions i have are as follows:

do u stop on a win. ie play after 18 numbers on a trigger. 1 line. you play. 4th spin hits - do you then look for which line has 2 hits in 18 or do you play out the series of 6?

I am also undecided on the 50% / 50% rule. I am tempted to do 33% / 67%. It makes little difference. the winnings grow more slowly but you retain more. The difference is not much - and the 33/67 means more retained until 31st win at which point the higher main b/roll starts to outweigh it and this takes the lead on amount retained due to higher bets.
Title: Re: CHICKEN DINNER TESTS LOHNRO'S DOUBLE STREETS + LANKY'S DIVISOR + VLS' 50% MM
Post by: TwoCatSam on October 14, 2008, 05:49:02 PM
Matt

Yes, I am fond of neatness and order.  Legible handwriting and all that. 

TTT, I keep a piece of cardboard taped to my computer screen to hide that pesky chicken!

By the way, you were right!  It was my Chicco/murph system.  I just broke out the 8s and look at them by themselves.  I killed the post I felt so stupid.

Sam

Title: Re: CHICKEN DINNER TESTS LOHNRO'S DOUBLE STREETS + LANKY'S DIVISOR + VLS' 50% MM
Post by: ChickenDinner on October 14, 2008, 07:12:56 PM
Thanks for comments guys, & thanks for the table guide Sam.

@Tuckster. The way I play it is after a hit within 6 (or 3) bets, I then stop and immediately play whatever line (or 2 lines) are active. I always stop and look at what's active after a hit and do not play out the series of 6. Occasionally the line you have just won on will be immediatley re-activated, and if this is the case, I'll bet it again for another cycle or until it hits.  Also, occasionally the line you have just bet on will remain active after the series of 6 has lost, and if so, I'd then be betting that same line in virtual mode.

Hope that makes sense.

I personally think 50/50 is the best way to manage your cash. I'm trusting Victor's judgement here. After all, if the system works, you want to be exploding that main bank roll to the maximum with the casino's money. Plus, you can always try to protect that main BR when the hits are down. At the early signs of a session going wrong (e.g., lost 25% of the BR), I'm going to make damn sure that I reduce the bets immediately and only aim to break even to preserve that main BR for as long a possible (this is where the flexibility of Lanky's divisor comes into its element).

The way I think of it is if you get to the stage when your main BR is huge, maybe even big enough to put you in the high roller league, you can be sure that you've also got a huge army of smaller reserve banks ready to take over if the shit really hits the fan, and those bad boys will be there to ride out any horrendous losing streaks you might encounter.

That's why I want to try and push this test as far as I can, I want to see in black and white how well the MM/dispersion surfing tools will keep the bank balance afloat during the very worst of sessions. I'm feeling confident that they will do well, but I'll have to wait and see...

Cheers,
CD

PS TTT

I know what you mean about the dancing chicken. But he can't be stopped!

PPS

If you want see a great dancing chicken, watch Werner Herzog's 'Stroszek' - one of the funniest films ever. As a reviewer once said, no description is necessary beyond the final line in the film: "We've got a truck on fire. We have a man stuck on the lift and and we still can't stop the dancing chicken.'
Title: Re: CHICKEN DINNER TESTS LOHNRO'S DOUBLE STREETS + LANKY'S DIVISOR + VLS' 50% MM
Post by: hamsup_sotong on October 15, 2008, 03:16:09 AM
Great stuff CD!!! keep in up buddy!!

Cheers
Hams ;D
Title: Re: CHICKEN DINNER TESTS LOHNRO'S DOUBLE STREETS + LANKY'S DIVISOR + VLS' 50% MM
Post by: mistarlupo on October 15, 2008, 06:19:56 AM
Excellent work, CD! Cheers...

I was thinking about something like this actually...
Good luck with your tests, I'll definitely give this a try really soon.

Regards,
m
Title: Re: CHICKEN DINNER TESTS LOHNRO'S DOUBLE STREETS + LANKY'S DIVISOR + VLS' 50% MM
Post by: Woodeneye on October 17, 2008, 09:44:25 PM
CD

I know I'm a dumb bugger, but what does the 'DD' in the last column of your results represent?

Cheers mate & good luck with it.
Title: Re: CHICKEN DINNER TESTS LOHNRO'S DOUBLE STREETS + LANKY'S DIVISOR + VLS' 50% MM
Post by: ChickenDinner on October 18, 2008, 07:30:25 AM
No worries, DD is the session draw down.

Cheers,
CD
Title: Re: CHICKEN DINNER TESTS LOHNRO'S DOUBLE STREETS + LANKY'S DIVISOR + VLS' 50% MM
Post by: Clint on November 06, 2008, 12:23:53 PM
Hi CD, been quiet on this post for a while. Did u give up the ghost on this one or are you still playing/testing?

Regards

Clint
Title: Re: CHICKEN DINNER TESTS LOHNRO'S DOUBLE STREETS + LANKY'S DIVISOR + VLS' 50% MM
Post by: ChickenDinner on November 06, 2008, 01:33:38 PM
Hi Clint,

Still testing buddy, I've been a bit busy recently, but I'll post some more result as soon as I can.

Cheers,
CD
Title: Re: CHICKEN DINNER TESTS LOHNRO'S DOUBLE STREETS + LANKY'S DIVISOR + VLS' 50% MM
Post by: ChickenDinner on November 24, 2008, 11:06:30 AM
[table=,]
DATE,UNIT TARGET,UNITS WON OR LOST,SPINS,DRAW DOWN


22/9, 20 TARGET, WIN 20, 96 SPINS, DD 12
23/9, 20 TARGET, WIN 20, 30 SPINS, DD 8
24/9, 20 TARGET, WIN 26, 45 SPINS, DD 0
25/9, 20 TARGET, WIN 23, 49 SPINS, DD 23
27/8, 20 TARGET, WIN 12, 150 SPINS, DD 47
26/9, 25 TARGET, WIN 29, 136 SPINS, DD 48
28/9, 25 TARGET, WIN 29, 50 SPINS, DD 24
29/9, 25 TARGET, WIN 25, 140 SPINS, DD 13
31/8, 25 TARGET, WIN 19, 108 SPINS, DD 69
2/10, 30 TARGET, WIN 34, 54 SPINS, DD 6
1/10, 30 TARGET, WIN 30, 42 SPINS, DD 0
21/9, 30 TARGET, WIN 41, 31 SPINS, DD 0
20/9, 35 TARGET, WIN 61, 51 SPINS, DD 7
19/9, 35 TARGET, WIN 16, 150 SPINS, DD 34
18/9, 35 TARGET, WIN 11, 148 SPINS, DD 40
17/9, 40 TARGET, WIN 40, 34 SPINS, DD 8
16/9, 40 TARGET, WIN 40, 45 SPINS, DD 0
15/9, 40 TARGET, WIN 46, 29 SPINS, DD 0
14/9, 45 TARGET, WIN 45, 32 SPINS, DD 9
13/9, 45 TARGET, WIN 46, 27 SPINS, DD 4
DB,  50 TARGET, WIN 49, 45 SPINS, DD 10
RNG, 50 TARGET, WIN 28, 86 SPINS, DD 5
12/9, 50 TARGET, WIN 37, 117 SPINS, DD 53
11/9, 55 TARGET, WIN 1, 137 SPINS, DD 215
10/9, 55 TARGET, WIN 56, 60 SPINS, DD 0
09/9, 55 TARGET, LOST 275, 300 SPINS, DD 275

[/table]

MAIN BANK ROLL: 451.50 (starting bank 200)
2ND BANK: 200
3rd BANK: 52
TOTAL PROFIT: 503 UNITS


   
Unfortunately I've been too busy with other things to keep testing this puppy, but what my results do indicate is that it works very well. You see can that the last session was my first loss, but 1 out of 26 is pretty sweet & if I had not run out of Hamburg numbers for that day, I may well have been able to surf my way back to breaking even. Certainly a nice system to add to one's arsenal.

Cheers,
CD
Title: Re: CHICKEN DINNER TESTS LOHNRO'S DOUBLE STREETS + LANKY'S DIVISOR + VLS' 50% MM
Post by: mistarlupo on November 24, 2008, 11:19:30 AM
ChickenDinner,
Nice work, mate! Keep up the good work. ;)

I do not really get the dates... you said you lost last session, on 09/9...
But your previous 10/9 (Sep 10th?)... correct me please.

Regards,
m
Title: Re: CHICKEN DINNER TESTS LOHNRO'S DOUBLE STREETS + LANKY'S DIVISOR + VLS' 50% MM
Post by: ChickenDinner on November 24, 2008, 11:39:28 AM
Thanks mistarlupo. The last session shows the date of the Humburg session I used for testing.

Cheers,
CD
Title: Re: CHICKEN DINNER TESTS LOHNRO'S DOUBLE STREETS + LANKY'S DIVISOR + VLS' 50% MM
Post by: TwoCatSam on November 24, 2008, 05:56:45 PM
CD

Nice work and a great chart.  Well, you do have one a little askew!  If you don't correct that, we may have to scold you!

;D

Sam
Title: Re: CHICKEN DINNER TESTS LOHNRO'S DOUBLE STREETS + LANKY'S DIVISOR + VLS' 50% MM
Post by: ChickenDinner on November 24, 2008, 10:11:47 PM
Thanks Sam. I'll make sure it's all straight next time, Sir!

Cheers,
CD