4 number Bet (Cold)

[birdhands]

I need help understanding your chart.  The first vertical line is obviously the spin number, but what are the others?

[Rheti]

I need help understanding your chart.  The first vertical line is obviously the spin number, but what are the others?

first = session, I start to play after 60 spins.. it varies from 5-13 cold numbers.

second = profit or loss

third = cumulative

fourth = reference of the cold related to a loss..

[Rheti]

an example of one of the sessions:

   start=60            
               
cold   reached=x   spins   needed   cold   profit
5               
6               
14   x   72   1   5   109
15               
20   x   63   3   9   72
24   x   71   1   6   90
25   x   70   4   7   90
27   x   66   3   8   84
30   x   85   13   4   144
               
               
               
               589

[birdhands]

OK, I understand the other chart now, but in this one am I to understand that 5 and 6 were not reached, 14 was reached at spin 72?  What is the 2, the 5, and the 109?  If the 109 is the profit, then why is it more than the 72 units won on #20 after it hit earlier (spin 63)?  I definitely am still confused.

Sam

[Rheti]

an example of one of the sessions:

  start=60            
             
cold   reached=x   spins   needed   cold   profit
5              
6              
14   x   72   1   5   109
15              
20   x   63   3   9   72
24   x   71   1   6   90
25   x   70   4   7   90
27   x   66   3   8   84
30   x   85   13   4   144

                 589

ok.. after 60 spins there were 9 cold numbers:
5-6-14-15-20-24-25-27-30.
I stop after the 4th cold has been reached.. so in this case 5-6-15 stayed open..
my first bet on spin 61 = a 9 bet on the colds.
on spin 63 the 20 came in ...with my progression and money management I created a profit of 72 euro
8 colds left.
on spin 66 the 27 came in....with my progression  and money management I created a profit of 84 euro            
7 colds left.              
             
etc
             

[harrican]

Hi,

Interesting findings.   .    hope I understand correctly.   .   .    You track 60 spins.    and take note of Cold numbers remaining.   

at spin #61, you start betting these Cold numbers, in the example that you stated there was 9 Cold numbers.   

You Stop betting when only left with 3 Cold numbers.   .   .    am I correct?

Some questions, when a number hits, do you stop betting it?

What's your progression like?

Could this same logic be applied to Hot numbers somehow? I like hot numbers :p

Hope to hear from you soon

[Rheti]

Hi,

Interesting findings.   .    hope I understand correctly.   .   .    You track 60 spins.    and take note of Cold numbers remaining.   

at spin #61, you start betting these Cold numbers, in the example that you stated there was 9 Cold numbers.   

You Stop betting when only left with 3 Cold numbers.   .   .    am I correct?   yes

Some questions, when a number hits, do you stop betting it?  yes

What's your progression like?   an 8 trap

Could this same logic be applied to Hot numbers somehow? I like hot numbers :p do'nt know yet

Hope to hear from you soon alright

[birdhands]

OK Rheti, I finally get it; thanks for explaining.  I am curious about the progression too.  This is very promising.

Sam

[col1879]

Do you have to keep playing until all cold numbers hit? Could you not just stop on any profit? Maybe less profit overall but less risk?

[birdhands]

he doesn't play until all of them hit; he stops when there are three left.  You can probably stop whenever you want.

Sam

[Pedro]

Hi Rheti,

Could we go from playing this,when we are in profit and use the same session numbers to play the 2 3 4 strategy.


Many thanks Pedro

[esomamita]

hxxp: upload. wikimedia. org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/Standard_deviation_diagram. svg/400px-Standard_deviation_diagram. svg. png


I analyzed roughly 11. 000 spins for a 4 cold number bet. .  102 sessions. .

Spins needed for a normal distribution:

      
      
needed   
   1   10
   2   11
   3   4
   4   8
   5   8
   6   4
   7   5
   8   4
   9   1
   10   4
   11   4
   12   3
   13   3
   14   2
   15   1
   16   5
   17   5
   18   2
   19   1
   20   1
   21   1
   22   1
   23   4
   24   1
   25   1
   26   4
   30   1
   34   1
   37   1
   45   1

tot:   102

But, what if you start playing after spin 96. .

I found 28 sessions with the following spins needed:

                              
   Aantal van freq   money-win                        
   needed   100   120   140   160   180   200   220   260   Eindtotaal
   1            2               2
   2         1                  1
   3      3                     3
   4                        4   4
   5                     2      2
   6               1            1
   7         1                  1
   8   1                        1
   9                     1      1
   10            1               1
   12                  2         2
   13      2                     2
   14                  1         1
   15   1                        1
   16            2               2
   22               2            2
   24            1               1
   tot   2   5   2   6   3   3   3   4   28
                              
Money-management:

1   5   4   20   20   180   160
2   5   4   20   40   180   140
3   5   4   20   60   180   120
4   10   4   40   100   360   260
5   10   4   40   140   360   220
6   10   4   40   180   360   180
7   10   4   40   220   360   140
8   10   4   40   260   360   100
9   15   4   60   320   540   220
10   15   4   60   380   540   160
11   15   4   60   440   540   100
12   20   4   80   520   720   200
13   20   4   80   600   720   120
14   25   4   100   700   900   200
15   25   4   100   800   900   100
16   30   4   120   920   1080   160
17   35   4   140   1060   1260   200
18   35   4   140   1200   1260   60
19   40   4   160   1360   1440   80
20   45   4   180   1540   1620   80
21   50   4   200   1740   1800   60
22   60   4   240   1980   2160   180
23   65   4   260   2240   2340   100
24   75   4   300   2540   2700   160

total win after 28 sessions:

4880 euro

risk 2540 euro

so roughly 1 out of 4 you can play

starting at the 96 spin means std deviation of 3:

STANDARD DEVIATION: Single Zero

4 numbers bet for 96 spins

-   3   0   1   1. 25

probability:

96      99. 998

hi Rheti,

i was wondering about what you stated here,

1.      bet 4 numbers for 96 spins but your money management is only for 24 spins.  so, what is your formula after spin 24.

2.     how do you calculate your standard deviation, do you mind sharing as i am totally out when it comes to formula.

3.     correct me if i'm wrong, you are suggesting to start bet at spin 97 ? from my observation, it's not esay to get that many cold numbers at that stage.  And whatever you get by then has high probability that these numbers might end up being cold for a while.  Or did i get it wrong here, please advise.

4.     from your given results, are those play money or real money ?


I would hope and appreciate your feedback and advise.  Thank you and cheers . . . . .



David

[darrynf]

i have seen a similar system in another forum ecept he bets 1 cold number and then progression after a win on the same number. need a high bankroll though but it seems to work.

all he dose is asks for some card that tell you the cold numbers the previous day and then bets on that cold number and uses progression after a win.

it seems to work, but the down side is it takes a b.r of 1000-4000 and stops when he reaches 100

[Zindrod]

really could choose any number.  You will get the same results.

[darrynf]

i dout that zin but that is what you believe.

[darrynf]

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