a modest point of view

[vito7]

  It's four years now that I play roulette
  And I strongly believe that the worst thing to do is to enter a casino
  having already made up your mind what system will you play.

  Or to say it differently, ppl concentrate on details and miss the big picture
  How is that english saying "not to tel the woods from the trees" or something like that.

  That's why I hate all that famous line from teh system sellers "YOu must do exactly as we tell you".

  So if you focuse only on one thing, you wil lose 99% of time.

  The only system, to my modest opinion, is yrself.
  If you deal ok with yrself then roulette is a piece of cake.

  Anyway, "To each, his own."

  Cheers

 

[RPro75]

I agree with you, Vito.  You must change and adapt to your environment when playing roulette,  much like a chameleon changes colors to blend into its environment when threatened.  For instance, consider the roulette wheel the "enemy" for just a minute.  It "threatens" and "attacks" you by drawing down your bankroll.  You must incorporate the only weapon you have against the wheel, your ability to THINK and Change YOUR STYLE to adapt to the current patterns of the wheel.  You must incorporate many systems into an "arsenal".  Why do most systems have their periods of constant win and constant loss?  They do because a single system is usually designed to win on a wheel when the wheel produces a certain result.  With much time, practice, and the ability to apply lateral thinking, you can begin to recognize and even anticipate the pattern the wheel is about to or has begun to produce.  When this happens, begin to apply your weapon (system) that will win in that situation.  It is very important to develop an array of weapons or systems to use against the wheel.  I refer to this as my "arsenal".  Yes, I am a successful roulette player, and no, I am not super intelligent, I don't have pre-cognitive skills or ESP, and I don't possess any high tech or expensive systems.  I have the only weapon I need against the wheel and that is a keen sense of pattern recognition.  Many of you here like Victor, Winkel, Kimo Li and others are much more successful and advanced than I and many of you are in the early stages and just developing your arsenal.  The important thing to remember is this game IS beatable and YOU CAN DO IT!

[Tangram]

Couldn't agree more. It's the common denominator among all players who do well, and it's really not that difficult to win consistently once you've adopted the correct "mindset". 

[Just_Gabe]

You're so right, and that's a lesson I learned the hard way.   The moment you lose yourself to the greed, you LOSE.
I recently lost $50 + $20 in profits. . . all because I didn't stick to my own system and started to get greedy. . . and that's when everything started to collapse and ended up with only $20 in the bankroll. . . second mistake was the "I'll get my money back" mentality and tried to build up again in a single session and needless to say, I lost everything. . . and all because I lose control over myself.

I also think that a winner is someone who know when to retire after losing and not let his anger and greed take over him/her.

But I live to fight another day and start winning again!

[RPro75]

You're so right, and that's a lesson I learned the hard way.   The moment you lose yourself to the greed, you LOSE.
I recently lost $50 + $20 in profits. . . all because I didn't stick to my own system and started to get greedy. . . and that's when everything started to collapse and ended up with only $20 in the bankroll. . . second mistake was the "I'll get my money back" mentality and tried to build up again in a single session and needless to say, I lost everything. . . and all because I lose control over myself.

I also think that a winner is someone who know when to retire after losing and not let his anger and greed take over him/her.

But I live to fight another day and start winning again!

I have fallen victim to what you have described many times, my friend.  It is only recently that I have learned how to make $50-$100 per day at the wheel.  With knowledge and practice, you'll easily be able to win at least $50 a day.  The hard part is getting up and leaving with the profit.  Why is it so hard?  There are a few reasons.  You think that you are on a "hot" streak and don't want to miss out on more winnings.  You think your system will continue to win or that you have found a way to consistently beat the wheel and you are going to win all day and night.  You get c**ky and overconfident.  When these things happen, you end up losing, then, of course, you start to chase.  What is the answer?  Pure discipline and the ability to recognize when you have successfully exploited a situation.  You must get up and walk out.  I set a win limit of $50 per day.  It's not that hard to achieve.  Believe me, it adds up.  I go to the casino to play roulette 5 times a week.  For the past 6 weeks, I have been making $200-$250 per week consistently because I have finally developed discipline and through this forum and hard work, I have developed a good system of play.  I lost a lot of money before that.  It will probably take me 2 more years just to be even, but I learned a valuable lesson.  Professional roulette players don't have some secret bet or "Holy Grail".  They have discipline and the ability to exploit streaks and patterns by knowing where and when to bet.  That's really all there is to it.  I believe with enough hard work and a good size bankroll, making a living playing roulette is neither impossible nor extremely difficult.

[vito7]

  Rpro75, I am curious how much is your bankroll.

  I learned what you aiming at, 50 $ a day, so I wd like to know your bankroll.

  I think that the size of the bankroll
and the size of your target win
are the most important elements
after the discipline.

A friend of mine went in the casino
with 20 euro and went out with 5.000 euro win.

He became a legend very soon.
But that was the end. That win got him and he began to play like mad
loosing everythin he could.

That's why I insist on small wins.
It's a biological thing, appart from matemathic.

I mean , a big win trigger somethin in your brain
and just like an addicted, you dont play any more for the money

but just to feel once again that feeling.
And that is the point of no return.

  Someone proffesional can explain these things better than me.

[RPro75]

  Rpro75, I am curious how much is your bankroll.

  I learned what you aiming at, 50 $ a day, so I wd like to know your bankroll.

  I think that the size of the bankroll
and the size of your target win
are the most important elements
after the discipline.

A friend of mine went in the casino
with 20 euro and went out with 5.000 euro win.

He became a legend very soon.
But that was the end. That win got him and he began to play like mad
losing everythin he could.

That's why I insist on small wins.
It's a biological thing, appart from matemathic.

I mean , a big win trigger somethin in your brain
and just like an addicted, you dont play any more for the money

but just to feel once again that feeling.
And that is the point of no return.

  Someone proffesional can explain these things better than me.

Sure, Vito.  Like your friend, I used to do the same thing.  I would go into the casino with $50 or $100 and start laying $5 and $10 on a number. Once in a great while I would get super lucky and get 3 hits in a row and be up $900 or $1000 in a few spins.  9 times out of 10, I would lose the money in about 5 minutes and be in and out in 15 minutes flat.  I noticed that when I played intelligently, and with patience, that I always could get up $50-$100 and that was before I knew hardly anything I know now of the game.  In order for me to guarantee myself a $50 win, I know I will need at least 5 times my win target as a bankroll.  So, to answer your question, my starting bankroll is $300 and I play in $.25 units.  My bankroll always get put away at the end of the day and I never spend it.  It is money that I leave to the side and consider it as an investment, because it makes me more money.  I am going on my 6th week of consistently winning $50 a day 5 times a week.

[Proofreaders2000]

That great, Rpro.  I like the fact the casinos you play at allow bets in $0.25 units.  Most I know of start at $5 and higher/inside bets.
I was going to ask what would you recommend as far as land-based casinos?

[RPro75]

That great, Rpro.  I like the fact the casinos you play at allow bets in $0.25 units.  Most I know of start at $5 and higher/inside bets.
I was going to ask what would you recommend as far as land-based casinos?

As I live in Arizona, I have access to several Native American casinos within 30 minutes of my home.  They all have automated roulette or "airball", so that is what I play.  Most of these machines have a minimum bet of $.25 and max bet of $29.  I would recommend any land based casinos in Las Vegas, Reno, or Atlantic City.  They have all different kinds of roulette, Euro, American, Auto, No-Zero.  You name it, they have it.  The Native American casinos are OK if that is what you have access too.  I prefer any land based casino over an online anyday.

[vito7]

  Wonderfull Rpro

With 0.25 unit, a 300 $ bankroll is just OK.

By the way, since you mentioned air ball roulettes,
how is their reputation ther ( lol) because here

ther so many rumours. I mean about cheating, magnets and so on and so forth.

Me myself got paranoid some months but I overcome it.

It's funny that the unit size there is the same with here (Albania)
First I went with 200 euro aimint to win 20 or 30.

  Then I increased the bankroll at400 but not the win target.
  I don't know how to explain the psychological impact
  but seems that when the bankroll is big, you are
  more in control of yr emotions. Anyway, if the half of it is lost,

  there's no use to play any more for that day.

 

[Joker]

Hey people Rpro good to see you here..

yes everybody here got great points...

It is better to go with flow of river and not go against...

Joker

[RPro75]

  Wonderfull Rpro

With 0.25 unit, a 300 $ bankroll is just OK.

By the way, since you mentioned air ball roulettes,
how is their reputation ther ( lol) because here

ther so many rumours. I mean about cheating, magnets and so on and so forth.

Me myself got paranoid some months but I overcome it.

It's funny that the unit size there is the same with here (Albania)
First I went with 200 euro aimint to win 20 or 30.

  Then I increased the bankroll at400 but not the win target.
  I don't know how to explain the psychological impact
  but seems that when the bankroll is big, you are
  more in control of yr emotions. Anyway, if the half of it is lost,

  there's no use to play any more for that day.

 

Never had a problem with the airball machines.  The results are the same as a real table as far as I am concerned.  As far as magnets, I have actually been at the casino when the gaming commission pulled an inspection.  They closed down the roulette machine and inspected the wheel as well.  The casino would never risk their gaming license and use magnets when they already have the house edge.  I don't know about other countries, but here in the U.S. I trust them.  Online casinos, well, that's a different animal.

[vito7]

  The only thing that makes me doubt here is that max limit is so high

  and there are tables wher ther is no limit

[vito7]

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