I have noticed that Dublinbet has changed the BACCARAT table limits, they have now a low limit talbe and a high limit table.
The Low is 50cent min and €150 max
the High is €5 min and €1500 max
Am I right in believing that this would make it really easy to make a mechanical system to win 100%
A question to everyone, what is the most amount of chops you have seen in a row??
Regards
Diarmaid
You could only cover up to 12 Martingale bets, which isn't a hell of a lot to see in a chop in my opinion.
This 0. 50 cent Are for a EC or only for one number?
:o 50c on EC's Marty will give you 9 bets right? That is no good . Then again no Marty is worth it, does not matter what the table limit is, I guess.
0,5 .. 1,00 .. 2,00 .. 4,00 .. 8,00 .. 16,00 .. 32,00 .. 64,00 .. 128,00
Cheers
Jakk
Its not new, they changed it last year. The outside bets are still $10 on the EC's and $5 on the dozens & columns.
We are talking Baccarat here people.
.....eeehhh......back what rat?
Cheers
Jakk :D
Quote from: Shorty on July 07, 2009, 11:31:57 PM
You could only cover up to 12 Martingale bets, which isn't a hell of a lot to see in a chop in my opinion.
So you are saying BPBPBPBPBPBPB (12 chops without 1 repeat) is common?
I have never seen it. But then again I dont play much baccarat.
I'm not saying it's common. But if you were playing Bac a lot, then it would only be a matter of when you are going to see it, not if you are going to see it.
I have been testing the following progression, betting streaks, so just betting the last result. 9 chops in a row would be a loss.
50c,50c,1,2,4,8,16,32,64
Its 9 steps at €124
It makes aproximately €10 per shoe. I have tested 30 shoes and has not lost yet. Im not saying that it wont lose, of course it will, but the question is how often will it lose????
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I am going to test it from today for the fun of it, with real money.
I'll play for €60 per day, thats 6-8 shoes every day.
If I hit a loss I will still play on for €60 which would leave me down -€64 for that day.
So if my thinking is correct I will either win €60 or lose €64 every day. Unless I have 2 losses in one day which I think would be very unlikely, who knows.
I'll post my results.
Regards
Diarmaid
I've never played baccarat yet. Checked this feed and this thing is too quick for my style of play. :o
I usually need from 10 to 20 seconds to analyze the situation.
Too bad... If only they make the EC limits on roulette as this, I'd finally get to use Dublinbet. $10 is too high for me as a base bet at the moment.
Wednesday 8th +€60
Thursday 9th +€60
Friday 10th +€60
Sat**day 11th +€60
Starting bankroll= €275
Current bankroll= €515
Tomorrow I will start with €1 as the base unit with an aim for +/-€120 per day. I will stay at this €1 base for a long time, if the system continues to have more winning days than losing excellent then the next move will be a base of €5 when my BR = €3,000
Regards
D
Looks good...I was thinking about doing something like this when Americans can gamble online. I am happy to see that your having success so far.
hey there John and great to see mr Diarmaid is back..yes sometimes simple system can be very effective...
and these are to me more effective because there is no wait involve..
this is something i learn... it is not good to wait for long time... because you don't get chance to bet often and you get frustrated...then you do something very crazy..but if you can produce winning more then you are in good shape.. but if you lose you should leave soon...
For me though.. i am not too big fan of progressive system.. because that how I lost before... I like reverse progressive...
double up after win.. and one day if I hit 10 winning streak then I will make fortune... just like winning lottery...
goodluck people.. oh by the way mr. diarmaid.. how is your poker game going?
Hi Joker,
Well I think the negitive progression will give consistant profits.
The key to this method is to always get your 120 units whether you lose a progression or not, this way every day you will either profit 120 or lose 120 and the progression should insure that you have far more profit days than losing ones.
Programme it into a bot and then your life will be easy. :yahoo:
Oh yea yes the poker is going good, had a bad week last week but overall its going very well.
Regards
D
Hi John,
Yep its looking good so far, I'm pretty confident that this will make long term profits.
Could you email me the 3000 shoes you have if you dont mind.
Regards
D
Quote from: Joker on July 11, 2009, 02:33:50 PM
hey there John and great to see mr Diarmaid is back..yes sometimes simple system can be very effective...
and these are to me more effective because there is no wait involve..
this is something I learn... it is not good to wait for long time... because you don't get chance to bet often and you get frustrated...then you do something very crazy..but if you can produce winning more then you are in good shape.. but if you lose you should leave soon...
For me though.. I am not too big fan of progressive system.. because that how I lost before... I like reverse progressive...
double up after win.. and one day if I hit 10 winning streak then I will make fortune... just like winning lottery...
goodluck people.. oh by the way mr. diarmaid.. how is your poker game going?
I don't like progressions either but I always find myself using one...I guess if you can control it then it's not so bad??? But even controlling the progression can often be hard enough.
Quote from: Diarmaid on July 11, 2009, 03:10:30 PM
Hi John,
Yep its looking good so far, I'm pretty confident that this will make long term profits.
Could you email me the 3000 shoes you have if you dont mind.
Regards
D
Sending the shoes to you now
Hi. I have been following this thread :)
If its okay..could you e-mail me the 3000 shoes also. Thank you.
whats your email darren?
Yesterday I found myself betting the 9th step of the progression 3 times and won all 3, (very lucky).
I decided to play a different progression from now on.
1,1,1,1,2,4,9,18,36,72,144
1,0,-1,-2,-2,-2,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1 (wins)
This is now 11 steps and costs 289 units. Its an extra 26 units and many of the wins will leave a -2 and -1 result but there are plenty of streaks to build the bankroll from.
It causes the sessions to be longer but my intention is to use a bot so it wont matter to me.
Regards
D
Sunday 12th +€100
just aiming for 100 units with the new progression
Sifting through those 3000 shoes, I'm going cross-eyed but so far in 100 shoes, a 9 step marty has only lost once and it hit on the 10th (playing follow the last).
Quote from: roules on July 16, 2009, 06:05:08 PM
Sifting through those 3000 shoes, I'm going cross-eyed but so far in 100 shoes, a 9 step marty has only lost once and it hit on the 10th (playing follow the last).
Yeah but I feel more confident playing the new 11 step progression. Its slower but thats ok.
Diarmaid-
Quote from: Diarmaid on July 16, 2009, 09:54:23 PM
Yeah but I feel more confident playing the new 11 step progression. Its slower but thats ok.
Is that what you are doing? using the 11 step progression to play follow the last outcome?
Monday 13th +€100
Tuesday 14th +€100
Wednesday 15th -€150
Thursday 16th +€100
Quote from: John1234 on July 16, 2009, 09:59:06 PM
Diarmaid-
Is that what you are doing? using the 11 step progression to play follow the last outcome?
Yep.
Ok thanks
Test Results.
I have tested 1200 live shoes (or 82000 results) and I have added a bit to my method to give more betting opportunities.
Here are the results,
7286 progressions won.
14 progressions lost.
A lost progression costs 255 units
14*255= 3570
TOTAL PROFIT = 7286-3570
= +3716 units
Quote from: Diarmaid on July 19, 2009, 12:09:47 AM
Test Results.
I have tested 1200 live shoes (or 82000 results) and I have added a bit to my method to give more betting opportunities.
Here are the results,
7286 progressions won.
14 progressions lost.
A lost progression costs 255 units
14*255= 3570
TOTAL PROFIT = 7286-3570
= +3716 units
Hi Diarmaid
A couple of questions for you...
I thought a lost progression was 289 units or did you change it for the tests?
What change to your method did you make?
Cheers
Switcher
Quote from: switcher on July 19, 2009, 05:40:20 PM
Hi Diarmaid
A couple of questions for you...
I thought a lost progression was 289 units or did you change it for the tests?
What change to your method did you make?
Cheers
Switcher
Its a different method, using a 1,2,4,8,16,32,64,128 progression (255 units) but there is some tracking so I dont bet every result.
I'm nearly finished testing all my 3000 shoes (200,000 results) I'll post my results.
Regards
Diarmaid
Ok I have finished testing my System
3000 shoes (203,000 results)
19582 progressions won
= +19582 units
54 progressions lost (255 units)
= -13770 units
Total profit = +5730 units (playing €5 units on Dublinbet that would be €28,650 :thumbsup:)
Not bad results, now the question is would I get the same or better results from another 3000 shoes???
To give an idea of how much 3000 shoes is, I would take 80 days playing 24 hours a day non-stop on Dublinbet to complete.
Having said that, this system is 100% mechanical so a bot can play it no problem and there is other sites the bot could play on at the same time.
Any thoughts??
Cheers
D
These are not bad results at all Diarmaid....a bot could be perfect for this but can you get away with playing a bot on a live site such as dublinbet? Would be interested to see if someone could create a bot for this...to get an extra €100 per day to go with the roulette would be very good ;D
What triggers did you use for the tests? I have been testing by betting the last outcome and using the progression with a modest target has worked well.
Good luck with your next tests results.
Cheers
Switcher
Quote from: switcher on July 20, 2009, 06:27:45 PM
These are not bad results at all Diarmaid....a bot could be perfect for this but can you get away with playing a bot on a live site such as dublinbet? Would be interested to see if someone could create a bot for this...to get an extra €100 per day to go with the roulette would be very good ;D
What triggers did you use for the tests? I have been testing by betting the last outcome and using the progression with a modest target has worked well.
Good luck with your next tests results.
Cheers
Switcher
I wont be exposing the system yet. (if ever) LOL
Have more testing to do, I just got another 1600 shoes and if they give the same results I am pretty sure I have an unbeatable system.
4600 shoes= 4 months play on dublinbet 24hours a day
As far as using a bot on Dublinbet, they wouldnt know you were using a bot.
They're server only takes information after the "no more bets" appears on the screen.
I know this for a fact. So they have no wayof knowing because the only way they would find out is if they could see the the time took to lay bets every time as a bot would lay the bets in exactly the same time.
Anyway what difference does it make if a bot lays the bets as to me sitting there and laying the same bets for hours.
Regards
D
Quote from: Diarmaid on July 20, 2009, 07:34:40 PM
I wont be exposing the system yet. (if ever) LOL
Have more testing to do, I just got another 1600 shoes and if they give the same results I am pretty sure I have an unbeatable system.
4600 shoes= 4 months play on dublinbet 24hours a day
As far as using a bot on Dublinbet, they wouldnt know you were using a bot.
They're server only takes information after the "no more bets" appears on the screen.
I know this for a fact. So they have no wayof knowing because the only way they would find out is if they could see the the time took to lay bets every time as a bot would lay the bets in exactly the same time.
Anyway what difference does it make if a bot lays the bets as to me sitting there and laying the same bets for hours.
Regards
D
Thats good to know about the use of bots. Is anyone on this forum able to create a bot that could be put to the test or knows someone who could create one?
Good luck with your next tests....for an even bets system this beats roulette simply because there is no equivalent to the zero as you don't lose on a tie. 8) Also fairly quick on dublinbet.
Let us know Diarmaid if you want any help testing anything on dublinbet although I expect the results of your next tests will convince you one way or the other. ;D
Regards
Switcher
I have tested another 600 shoes,
I have another 1000 shoes but the format they are in the spreadsheet makes it too difficult to paste into my testing spreadsheet. It would take days.
Here are the results of the 600 shoes, not as good as previous results but still profited.
3942 progressions won= +3942
12 progressions lost= -3060
Profit= +840 units
If anyone else knows an easy way to get this spreadsheet sorted into one column of results I will test another 1000 shoes.
Its attached,
Regards
D
Will have my Bot tomorrow or Friday and I will be starting as soon as I get it.
First of all I am going to leave the Bot running for 7 days straight, day and night and see what the result is.
Regards
D
Hello Diarmaid,
Congratulation on your success in testing. Remember to deduct commission when you calculate your winnings.
Regards
sniper
Quote from: DiarmaidA question to everyone, what is the most amount of chops you have seen in a row??
Personally I've seen 14, but johno, who has probably played more hands of Bacc than anyone, has seen 22. :o
Quote from: sniper on July 22, 2009, 08:50:07 AM
Hello Diarmaid,
Congratulation on your success in testing. Remember to deduct commission when you calculate your winnings.
Regards
sniper
Too awkward, but I have tested about 200 shoes with commision taken and not taken and it doesn't make a big difference to my results to be honest.
Cheers
D
Quote from: Tangram on July 22, 2009, 09:02:56 AM
Personally I've seen 14, but johno, who has probably played more hands of Bacc than anyone, has seen 22. :o
In my 3600 shoes I have tested,
I seen 19 streaks once and 16 chops 2 or 3 times. I think thats right, but not 100%
From my experience.. chops won't go higher than streak..
see this was my similar to my system.. you should look the certain time streak won't go higher..
for example... aftter 7 streak... from my testing.. you will never see another more than 10 streak follow 7 streak....
can you check if you have time? I think wait until 4 streak or 7 streak then bet against it is too risky...
Quote from: Joker on July 22, 2009, 11:53:59 AM
From my experience.. chops won't go higher than streak..
see this was my similar to my system.. you should look the certain time streak won't go higher..
for example... aftter 7 streak... from my testing.. you will never see another more than 10 streak follow 7 streak....
can you check if you have time? I think wait until 4 streak or 7 streak then bet against it is too risky...
Anything can happen, the odds of getting a chop are the same as getting a streak so you will see just as many 10 streaks in a row as 10 chops in a row in the long run. Just as you will see just as many as any other type of pattern.