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Study Groups => Study Groups => Nature of Randomness => Topic started by: toby on March 01, 2011, 04:54:15 PM

Title: trends on non-random wheels
Post by: toby on March 01, 2011, 04:54:15 PM
Do non-random wheels behave the same as random ones?

What would you search in a wheels that is not random when you look for trends?

Title: Re: trends on non-random wheels
Post by: Twocando on March 01, 2011, 05:11:54 PM
Nothing, from the last 18 spins, must be the same. To be random each spin within 37 spins need to be different.

Title: Re: trends on non-random wheels
Post by: toby on March 01, 2011, 05:16:55 PM
Suppose you have a wheel with a dominant ball drop point, or it is biased and you know that a for instance a 7 number sector hits more than 7/36.

What triggers would you look for on purpose to bet or not to bet?
Title: Re: trends on non-random wheels
Post by: Twocando on March 01, 2011, 05:25:13 PM
Is it really bias or is due to the speed of the ball and wheel and direction?
:scratch_ones_head:
Title: Re: trends on non-random wheels
Post by: toby on March 01, 2011, 05:41:46 PM
Whatever, imagine that you have an edge over the bank, does it give you any help to predict a trend?
Title: Re: trends on non-random wheels
Post by: bombus on March 01, 2011, 06:18:24 PM
If you found this kind of edge then you could safely bet every spin of the wheel and not bother with tracking and triggers, etc.

You could improve your margin with extra data, but it would not be absolutely necessary.

You would just need to allot enough time at the wheel for your edge to manifest.
Title: Re: trends on non-random wheels
Post by: toby on March 01, 2011, 06:44:38 PM
Quote from: bombus on March 01, 2011, 06:18:24 PM
If you found this kind of edge then you could safely bet every spin of the wheel and not bother with tracking and triggers, etc.

You could improve your margin with extra data, but it would not be absolutely necessary.

You would just need to allot enough time at the wheel for your edge to manifest.
It depends on your edge but you suffer from huge fluctuaions(drawdowns), it is about to avoid them in any way if it is possible.

Trying to find triggers to stop playing or play more chips.
Title: Re: trends on non-random wheels
Post by: Zindrod on March 15, 2011, 06:52:22 AM
Quote from: Twocando on March 01, 2011, 05:11:54 PM
Nothing, from the last 18 spins, must be the same. To be random each spin within 37 spins need to be different.



Not true. That is equal distribution and absolutely not random. Random really means that anything can come up next.

lacking any definite plan or order or purpose; governed by or depending on chance; "a random choice"

Lack of predictability, without any systematic pattern

Refers to events that are, in principle, haphazard and unpredictable

Random is American slang for out of the ordinary, eccentric

Just a couple of definitions.