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Title: "Borg"
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on November 29, 2008, 10:46:23 AM
Ok..Here's an ambitious system that attempts to beat the house edge with root groups number dispersion.  It contains elements from Winkel's G.U.T. and is inspired by Mr. Chips' Four-Selecta.  It has proven suprisingly successful in early tests. I hope it proves a monster on the wheel.

All right here goes----

Required:  $100 Bankroll
              Track4 (for the G.U.T part)
              A way to keep dilligent track of the hit root numbers (pen and paper will suffice, but you be writing and note-taking a lot for this procedure.)

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To start, we have the lower, middle, and higher root groups outlined below.

Lower:
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1,2,3
10,11,12
19,20,21
28,29,30

Middle:
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4,5,6
13,14,15
22,23,24
31,32,33

Higher:
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7,8,9
16,17,18
25,26,27
34,35,46

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As the numbers come in, record them in the respective section, lower, middle and higher:  At the same time, enter each number into Track4 for the GUT part.
                                                                                                                               \\//
Keep recording until you reach a GUT crossing, 0 vs 1, 1 vs 2, 2 vs 3, 3 vs <3 (explained below ||
                                                                                                                                \/

At this point, look at the recorded group numbers.  If the total nohits = OR 1 greater than the total hit once (0 vs 1), play the most dominant root group (one with the most hits) with repeaters x2, x3 or how many times it has repeated since you began tracking numbers for the session.  Flat bet this group for 5 times.

If it is 1 (total hit once)= OR 1 greater than 2(total hit twice), or 2 (total hit twice)= OR 1 greater than 3 (total hit 3 times), play the second dominant root group (one with the 2nd most hits) with repeaters x2, x3, etc. for 5 times.

If it is a 3 (total hit three times)= OR 1 greater than (3< total hit more than three times), play the most dominant root group for five times with x2, x3 for repeaters.)

Spin 50, jump back or end session.

Stoploss 50%/-50% Bankroll

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Exit Strategy: If there are 3 consecutive misses, wait for next trigger
Suggestion: Restart tracking root numbers if a dealer change.
                                                               
Title: Re: Borg Initiative
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on November 29, 2008, 11:31:12 AM
Test #1: Dublinbet Live Wheel #1 7:20 am CST November 29,2008.

Start Track 4 (GUT part)

13, 9,35,26,30,15,21,35,32,32

Crossing 2 vs 3, play Higher group 5 times

7,8,9, 16,17,18, 25,26,27,34,35,36

5 (x)
7 (win)
36 (win)
26 (win)
29 (x)

Still tracking numbers 26,3,16,14,31,8,31,13,0 (ignored), 30...10,33,12,8,26,19,22,3,22,19 (Group 2(hit twice) vs Group 3(hit three times) crossing)

2 vs 3 crossing play 2nd most dominant root group (in this case lower group)

(numbers hit recorded: in respective root groups) Dublinbet Live Wheel #1: 12.10pm

Lower Group: 1,28,8,3,19,10,12,19,3 (2nd most dominant)

Middle Group: 22,22,22, 14,15,4,33,23,4,15,33,33 (most dominant)

Higher Group: 7,35,25,26,8,26 (least dominant)

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Test #2: 2 vs 3 crossing, play 2nd most dominant (with 2x on twice repeaters, 3x on three-time repeaters...) for 5 spins

19 (win)
6 (x)
20 (win)
29 (win)
19 (win)

Test #3: Dublinbet 7:02pm CST November 29,2008

Tracking numbers: 21,6,29,35,34,22,20,29,6,12,12,12

(2 vs 3 on GUT)---Trigger 2nd most dominant of root groups Middle Group

Higher: hit numbers

12,12,12, 11, 30,30, 21, 29,29,29, 10, 28, 19, 12

Middle: hit numbers

13,32,22,31,6(x3)

Lower: hit numbers

34, 35, 8,8

Played Middle group for 5 times: (4,5,6, 13,14,15, 22,23,24, 31,32,33) with repeaters 2x chips, 3x chips...)

30 (x)
15 (win)
25 (x)
13 (win)
30 (x)

Tracking numbers...29,6,28,6,19,8,8,12

(3 vs >3) Play most dominant of root groups (lower): 1,2,3, 10,11,12, 19,20,21, 28,29,30 (with 2x, 3x on repeaters 2-times, 3-times...)

33 (x)
22 (x)
1 (win)
17 (x)
9 (x)

Tracking numbers......(2 vs 3) on GUT

Played 2nd most dominant root (Middle Group): 4,5,6, 13,14,15, 22,23,24, 31,32,33 with repeaters (2x chips, 3x chips...)

32 (win)x2 (repeater)
26 (x)
6 (win)x3 (repeater)
24 (win)
31 (win)x3 (repeater)

end session









Title: Re: Borg Initiative
Post by: Clothdog on November 29, 2008, 01:19:00 PM
can u explain how you use the GUT system with the roots rather than me going through all 59 pages,
thanks.
cd
Title: Re: Borg Initiative
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on November 29, 2008, 02:52:06 PM
GUT primer:

As you record spin values, you catagorize them into various groups, (you can use track4) or if you're dilligent with pen and paper, write them down into these categories..(In the case of Borg, they simply form the trigger, you play the root groups)

I.e.(12,26,5,1,0,33,15,3,7,27,35,7,2,22,20,12,18)
 
Numbers unhit=0,;            Numbers hit once=1,;            Numbers hit twice=2;            Numbers hit three times=3
(The 0 group)                      (The 1 group)                     (The 2 group)                         (The 3 group)

2,4,6,8,9,10,11,13                 12,26,5,1                                 7
14,16,17,19,21,23                 0,33,15,3
24,25,28,29,30,31               27,35,2,22,20
32,34,36                             12,18

Total Numbers                    Total Numbers                      Total Numbers
(0 group, nohit #'s)         (1 group, #'s hit once)           (2 group, #'s hit twice)=
=23                                          =15                                    1

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As GUT goes, you have a crossing when the total numbers of 0 group equal or 1 number greater than total numbers of 1 group.  With Borg, you play the most dominant (the root with the fewest hits) of the root groups (higher, middle, lower for 0 group, 1 group)

As the numbers come in, when total number 1 group equals or 1 number greater than the total number of 2 group, with Borg you play the 2nd most dominant root group.

When the total number of 2 group equal or 1 number greater than the total numbers of 3 group, you play the most dominant of the root groups.








Title: Re: "Borg"
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on December 01, 2008, 04:46:32 PM
Roulette challenge.  I would like to challenge anyone on here that thinks he has a winning system.  Any takers?
Title: Re: "Borg"
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on December 01, 2008, 09:42:21 PM
I've changed the beginning and said it was inspired by Four-Selecta instead of "contains elements of"
Title: Re: Borg Initiative
Post by: Natural9 on December 02, 2008, 10:39:20 AM
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on November 29, 2008, 11:31:12 AM
Test #1: Dublinbet Live Wheel #1 7:20 am CST November 29,2008.

Start Track 4 (GUT part)

13, 9,35,26,30,15,21,35,32,32

Crossing 2 vs 3, play Higher group 5 times

7,8,9, 16,17,18, 25,26,27,34,35,36

5 (x)
7 (win)
36 (win)
26 (win)
29 (x)

Still tracking numbers 26,3,16,14,31,8,31,13,0 (ignored), 30...10,33,12,8,26,19,22,3,22,19 (Group 2(hit twice) vs Group 3(hit three times) crossing)

2 vs 3 crossing play 2nd most dominant root group (in this case lower group)

(numbers hit recorded: in respective root groups) Dublinbet Live Wheel #1: 12.10pm

Lower Group: 1,28,8,3,19,10,12,19,3 (2nd most dominant)

Middle Group: 22,22,22, 14,15,4,33,23,4,15,33,33 (most dominant)

Higher Group: 7,35,25,26,8,26 (least dominant)

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Test #2: 2 vs 3 crossing, play 2nd most dominant (with 2x on twice repeaters, 3x on three-time repeaters...) for 5 spins

19 (win)
6 (x)
20 (win)
29 (win)
19 (win)

Test #3: Dublinbet 7:02pm CST November 29,2008

Tracking numbers: 21,6,29,35,34,22,20,29,6,12,12,12

(2 vs 3 on GUT)---Trigger 2nd most dominant of root groups Middle Group

Higher: hit numbers

12,12,12, 11, 30,30, 21, 29,29,29, 10, 28, 19, 12

Middle: hit numbers

13,32,22,31,6(x3)

Lower: hit numbers

34, 35, 8,8

Played Middle group for 5 times: (4,5,6, 13,14,15, 22,23,24, 31,32,33) with repeaters 2x chips, 3x chips...)

30 (x)
15 (win)
25 (x)
13 (win)
30 (x)

Tracking numbers...29,6,28,6,19,8,8,12

(3 vs >3) Play most dominant of root groups (lower): 1,2,3, 10,11,12, 19,20,21, 28,29,30 (with 2x, 3x on repeaters 2-times, 3-times...)

33 (x)
22 (x)
1 (win)
17 (x)
9 (x)

Tracking numbers......(2 vs 3) on GUT

Played 2nd most dominant root (Middle Group): 4,5,6, 13,14,15, 22,23,24, 31,32,33 with repeaters (2x chips, 3x chips...)

32 (win)x2 (repeater)
26 (x)
6 (win)x3 (repeater)
24 (win)
31 (win)x3 (repeater)

end session


Hey Proof thanks for your idea how much did you win in this session

regards Rodney







Title: Re: "Borg"
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on December 02, 2008, 10:43:54 AM
about $120
Title: Re: "Borg"
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on December 02, 2008, 04:39:00 PM
You're welcome, Mr. Chips.  The Roulette Challenge to you is also open-ended if you ever wish to duel.
Title: Re: "Borg"
Post by: xman1970 on December 02, 2008, 04:56:58 PM
Interesting work Proof, fair play to you [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

could I ask what number of spins & how much profit have you made so far in "testing"

Thx  8)
Title: Re: "Borg"
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on December 02, 2008, 05:09:40 PM
On average, each session consists of 2 to 3 attempts, first attempt about the 20 spin or so (as GUT goes).
In testing, I'd say 300 spins by hand,
amount made so far, $225 in 3 sessions (play-money on Dublinbet.)
Title: Re: "Borg"
Post by: xman1970 on December 02, 2008, 05:17:25 PM
Thx Proof that's a nice return so far  ;)

Long may it continue...... 8)

Hope you have the same return after 10,000 spins [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

& as it's called "The Borg" the wheel must know that "resistance is futile"  :D ;D :D
Title: Re: "Borg"
Post by: TwoCatSam on December 02, 2008, 07:23:48 PM
Proof:

Roulette challenge.  I would like to challenge anyone on here that thinks he has a winning system.  Any takers?

I think winkel has a winning system. 

Let's review!

I started with $201 betting .50 per number.  At a $400 bankroll, I started the $1 bets per number.  I am now at $996.  I can't begin to tell you the stupid mistakes I have made and the other systems I tried at the G.U.T's expense.  That $996 would be $1500 had it not been for the tom-foolery.

I am trying very hard to keep the sin of hubris at bay.  Because, in the final analysis, I could be on the luckiest streak a human ever had.

I don't think so.

Sam
Title: Re: "Borg"
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on December 02, 2008, 07:37:02 PM
Welcome TwoCat and I accept.  $996--that's quite a climb for a "lucky streak".  I have a feeling there's some "gambler's intelligence" in your gameplay. 

Haven't tried Borg on Riverbelle, yet.  That the real test.

As for the tom-foolery, I think there's more wisdom there than folly.
(If I were a casino rep, I would keep TwoCat away from all Roulette tables. He's dangerous!)
Title: Re: "Borg"
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on December 02, 2008, 10:41:11 PM
Test #4: Riverbelle Live Wheel (Real Money) 12/2/2008.  6:00 P.M.   Starting bankroll: $194.00

Lower Roots Hit
---------------

20,20,19,3,21,11


Middle Roots Hit
----------------

24,24,24,4,13,33,14,6


Higher Roots Hit
----------------

35,8,27,27,25,18,18,36,27,17

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Tracking #'s: 13,3,27,24,25,18,36,21,11,27,17 ( 2nd vs 3rd crossing)--total numbers hit twice=total #'s hit 3 times

Borg Rule: 2nd vs 3rd=play 2nd dominant root group (middle root: 4,5,6,13,14,15,22,23,24,31,32,33)

1. 24 (win) (repeater-forgot to add chip)
2. 14 (win) x2 (repeater)
3. 24 (win) x2 (repeater)
4. 0 (x)
5. 20 (x)

Tracking #'s.......(o vs 1) crossing--total nohit number 1 more than total hit once
Borg rule: play least dominant root (lower): 1,2,3,10,11,12,19,20,21,28,29,30

1. 10 (win)
2. 10 (win)x2 (repeater)
3. 31 (x)
4. 11 (win)
5. 14 (x)

End session.  Total Bankroll=$252.50

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Riverbelle Live Wheel: New Session: Start BR=$252.50

Tracking numbers: ...........(2 vs 3) on GUT---Total twice hit numbers=Total #'s hit three times

Borg rule: play 2nd dominant root (middle: 4,5,6,13,14,15,22,23,24,31,32,33) five times w/repeaters extra chip, 2x chips for twice repeaters, etc.

1. 30 (x)
2. 29 (x)
3. 15 (win)
4. 16 (x)
5. 21 (x)

Tracking numbers:............(0 vs 1) on GUT

Borg rule: play least dominant root *this rule has been changed* (higher: 7,8,9,16,17,18,25,26,27,34,35,36) w/extra chip on repeaters, 2x chips on twice hit numbers, etc.

1. 19(x)
2. 5 (x)
3. 19 (x)
4. 1 (x)
5  13 (x)

End session: Bankroll total= $178.00


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New Turbo Borg Rule included:  Add 20 spins from other live wheels first and all numbers on actual playing wheel in respective root sections to determine most dominant, 2nd dominant roots.

Lower root playing numbers:
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19,19,29,29,10,30,11,11,30,20,2,3,1,2,30


Middle root playing numbers:
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31,23,6,6,33,33,4,4,24,24,15,15,33,33,5,22


Higher root playing numbers:
---------------------------
25,18,18,36,36,27,27,27,16,34,34,7,7,8,17,26,9

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Tracking numbers:.......(2 vs 3) on GUT---total twice hit numbers=total #' hit three times: (Didn't add chips to repeaters, only played 4 chips on 4 streets)

Borg rule: play 2nd most dominant root (Higher) for 5 spins: 7,8,9,16,17,18,25,26,27,34,35,36

1. 31(x)
2. 35 (win)
3. 9 (win)
4. 15 (x)
5. 8 (win)

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New session: added 20 spins values from other live wheels and actual playing wheel spin values to respective root groups first.  Started GUT tracking numbers at actual playing wheel

Tracking numbers..............(2 vs 3) again on GUT.  (Didn't add chip to repeaters, played 4 chips on 4 streets)

Borg rule: Play 2nd most dominant root (middle): 4,5,6,13,14,15,22,23,24,31,32,33

1. 23 (win)
2. 14 (win)
3. 14 (win)
4. 9 (x)
5. 6 (win)

End Session.  Total Riverbelle Bankroll: $204.00








Title: Re: "Borg"
Post by: Worm on December 04, 2008, 06:42:37 AM
Well the only challange i have atm is trying to understand the GUT [smiley=4/1eye.gif]
Title: Re: "Borg"
Post by: Clint on December 11, 2008, 07:40:42 AM
How have you been getting along with these tests.

Regards

Clint
Title: Re: "Borg"
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on December 11, 2008, 04:58:30 PM
They're coming along.  I want to see what happens after 1000 spins.
Title: Re: "Borg"
Post by: eightfour on December 14, 2008, 03:35:16 AM
Exciting results  :) Do you have any explanation why you think this will work?

Are you using 1$ units and a 100$ bankroll? On two small bad streaks, you will be knocked out as you will lose 60$ if you miss 5 in a row. This happened to me several times in early testing with play money. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: "Borg"
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on December 14, 2008, 09:42:47 AM
Yes Eightfour I see the results, still in testing.  That's why I trying to get to 1000 spins to see what happens and if an early exit strategy is necessary
Title: Re: "Borg"
Post by: rjl on December 20, 2008, 09:04:03 PM
Hi Proof,

Still testing this one?

How is it going?


Cheers,

Rjl
Title: Re: "Borg"
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on December 21, 2008, 06:51:35 AM
New Test: Dublinbet Roulette #1: 1:25am 12/21/08      Start $1000     Playing with $0.50 chips


Lower Root #'s Spun
--------------------
10,30,21,2,12,12,10,20,3



Middle Root #'s Spun
-------------------
24,24,6,15,14,14,22,24,4,23,13,4,23,24,33



Higher Root #'s Spun
--------------------
17,17,17,17,18,18,7,7,36,34,34,9,9,36,8,26,35



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(1).  2 vs 3: Play 2nd Dominant Root: (at the time): 7,8,9,16,17,18,25,26,27,34,35,36

a. 24(x)
b. 16(x)
c. 22(x)
------------->New rule: 3 misses in a row--->next trigger

(2) 3 vs >3: Play Most Dominant Root: (at the time): 4,5,6,13,14,15,22,23,24,31,32,33

a. 36(x)
b. 8(x)
c. 8(x)
----------------->New rule: 3 misses in a row--->next trigger

(3) 2 vs >2: Play 2nd Dominant Root: (at the time): 7,8,9,16,17,18,25,26,27,34,35,36

a. 10(x)
b. 18(win)x2 repeater
c. 8(win)
d. 9(win)x2
e. 32(x)

(4) 1 vs 2: Play 2nd Dominant Root: (at the time): 7,8,9,16,17,18,25,26,27,34,35,36

a. 10(x)
b. 32(x)
c. 34(win)x2 repeater
d. 36(win)x3 repeater
e. 1(x)

(5) 1 vs 2: Play 2nd Dominant Root: (at the time): 7,8,9,16,17,18,25,26,27,34,35,36

a. 24(x)
b. 24(x)
c. 3 (x)------>next trigger

(6) 0 vs 2: Play Most Dominant Root: (at the time): 4,5,6,13,14,15,22,23,24,31,32,33

a. 12(x)
b. 33(win)
c. 26(x)
d. 4(win)x4 repeated 4 times, so 4 chips added
e. 15(win)x2

(7) 0 vs 2: Play Most Dominant Root: (at the time): 4,5,6,13,14,15,22,23,24,31,32,33

a. 6 (win)
b. 13 (win)
c. 33 (win)
d. 23 (win)x4
e. 24 (win)x5

----------------------------End Session---------------------------End BR: $1137.50
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New Test #2: Dublinbet Roulette #2: December 21, 2008    11:22am CST

Start: $1000-End Session: BR=$864-----------------------------------

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New Test #3: Dublinbet Roulette Live Wheel #2: 2:11pm December 21, 2008: Starting BR=$864

Lower Root Numbers Spun: 20,20,20,2,10,10,19,12,12,10,30,3,11,21

Middle Root Numbers Spun: 13,13,5,6,15,32,32,32,4,33,33,23,22,22

Higher Root Numbers Spun: 36,27,26,26,6,16,18,25

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(1) 2 vs 3: Play 2nd Most Dominant Root: (at the time) 4,5,6,13,14,15,22,23,24,31,32,33

a. 26 (x)
b. 6 (win)
c. 15 (win)
d. 19 (x)
e. 13 (win)x2

(2) 2 vs 3: Play 2nd Most Dominant Root: (at the time) 1,2,3,10,11,12,19,20,21,28,29,30

a. 32 (x)
b. 32 (x)
c. 6 (x)--------->next trigger

(3) 2 vs 3: Play 2nd Most Dominant Root: (at the time) 4,5,6,13,14,15,22,23,24,31,32,33

a. 28 (win) No chips on number
b. 4 (x)
c. 23 (win) No chips on number
d. 33 (win)
e. 12 (x)

(4) 1 vs >2: Play 2nd Most Dominant Root: (at the time) 1,2,3,10,11,12,19,20,21,28,29,30

a. 10 (win)x3
b. 30 (win)
c. 12 (win)x2
d. 27 (x)
e. 21 (win)

(5) 1 vs >1: Play 2nd Most Dominant Root: (at the time) 1,2,3,10,11,12,19,20,21,28,29,30

a. 22 (x)
b. 3 (win)
c. 26 (x)
d. 22 (x)
e. 30 (win)x2

(6) 1 vs 2: Play 2nd Dominant Root: (at the time) 1,2,3,10,11,12,19,20,21,28,29,30

a. 21(win) No chip on number
b. 16 (x)
c. 18 (x)
d. 34 (x)-------next trigger

(7) 0 vs 2: Play Most Dominant Root: (at the time) 4,5,6,13,14,15,22,23,24,31,32,33

a. 13 (win)x3
b. 31 (win)
c. 6 (win)x3
d. 20 (x)
e. 22 (win)

-------------------------End Session--------Ending BR=$963

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New Test: December 23,2008 Dublinbet Live Wheel #1: Starting Bankroll=$1000

Bettors' Notes:  I decided to re-start the root numbers count when it reaches 30:  After 30 numbers, the wins aren't enough to cover the losses.
()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()(


Lower Roots:
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21,21,21,12,12,2,11,11,11,29,1,3,30,10


Middle Roots:
----------------------------------
22,22,22,15,4,32,23,23,23,13,13,13,31,33,22


Higher Roots:
----------------------------------
9,9,16,16,17,26,26,18,27,16


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(1) Numbers come in......1 vs 2: Bet on 2nd Most Dominant Root: (at the time) 4,5,6,13,14,15,22,23,24,31,32,33

a. 4 (win)
b. 9 (x)
c. 12 (x)
d. 26 (x)-------->3 consecutive misses goto next trigger


(2) Numbers come in.........1 vs 2(again): Bet on 2nd Most Dominant Root: (at the time) 7,8,9,16,17,18,25,26,27,34,35,36

a. 18 (win)
b. 32 (win)
c. 23 (x)
d. 13 (x)
e. 16 (win) no chips on number

(3) Numbers come in...........1 vs >1: Bet on 2nd Most Dominant Root: (at the time) 1,2,3,10,11,12,19,20,21,28,29,30

a. 22 (x)
b. 0 (x)
c. 16 (x)------>next trigger

(4) Numbers come in...........2 vs >2: Bet on 2nd Most Dominant Root: (at the time) 1,2,3,10,11,12,19,20,21,28,29,30

a. 10 (win)
b. 21 (win)x3
c. 13 (x)
d. 16 (x)
e. 29 (win)

----------------------------------------40 numbers in Root Groups (restart if over 30), Start brand new root numbers-------------------
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Lower Roots:
---------------------------------------------------
21,29,28,28,20,3,11,11


Middle Roots:
---------------------------------------------
13,22,22,14,4,32,23,33,24,24,6,5


Higher Roots:
--------------------------------------------
16,16,27,9,9,9,25,18,7,7,36,17


-----------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------------------------------------------

(1) Numbers come in.....2 vs 3: Play 2nd Most Dominant Root Group: (at the time) 1,2,3,10,11,12,19,20,21,28,29,30

a. 15 (x)
b. 30 (x)
c. 20 (win)
d. 34 (x)
e. 7 (x)

(2) Numbers come in.....0 vs 2: Play Most Dominant Root roup: (at the time) 7,8,9,16,17,18,25,26,27,34,35,36

a. 16 (win)x2
b. 4 (x)
c. 7 (win) no chips on number
d. 22 (x)
e. 9 (win)x2

(3) Numbers come in....0 vs 2: Play Most Dominant Root Group: (at the time) 7,8,9,16,17,18,25,26,27,34,35,36

a. 6 (win)
b. 36 (x)
c. 24 (win)
d. 5 (win)
e. 13 (win)x2

-----------------------------End Session Ending Bankroll: $1027.00------------------------

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New Test: December 24, 2008: Dublinbet Live Wheel #1: Starting BR=$1000

Lower Root #'s
----------------------------
19,19,2,20,20,1,2,11


Middle Root #'s
----------------------------
33,6,23,24,24,4,15,15,22,5,5,13


Higher Root #'s
----------------------------
27,36,9,9,16,18,36,25


--------------------------------------------
Number come in to Track4 (GUT part): trigger 0 vs 1: Borg rule play most dominant root: (at the time) 4,5,6,13,14,15,22,23,24,31,32,33

a. 16 (x)
b. 5 (win)x2
c. 11 (x)
d. 15 (win)x2
e. 7 (x)

------------------------30 numbers accumulated into roots restart root #'s tracking--(used last 10 #'s listed)--------


Lower Root #'s
---------------------------
2,2,2,20,11,3,1,1,1,30,10,10,28


Middle Root #'s
---------------------------
13,13,24,14,14,5,15,15,15,33,31,6,31,23,22


Higher Root #'s
---------------------------
16,16,16,7,18


----------------------------------------------------------
Numbers come in: 0 vs 1: Borg rule-play Most Dominant Root #'s:(at the time) 4,5,6,13,14,15,22,23,24,31,32,33

(1)
a. 31 (win)
b. 16 (x)
c. 3 (x)
d. 1 (x)-------->3 misses in a row, goto next trigger


(2) 0 vs 1 (again): Most Dominant root #'s: (at the time) 4,5,6,13,14,15,22,23,24,31,32,33
a. 1 (x)
b. 30 (x)
c. ---(top root # totals in a tie, no play)
d. (4,5,6,13,14,15,22,23,24,31,32,33--top root #'s) *13(win)*
e. 10 (x)

(3) 0 vs 2: Most Dominant root #'s: (at the time) 4,5,6,13,14,15,22,23,24,31,32,33
a. 0 (x)
b. 2 (x)
c. ---(top root # totals in a tie, no play)
d. (1,2,3,10,11,12,19,20,21,28,29,30---new top root #'s) *28(win)*
e. 18 (x)

(4) 3 vs >3: Most Dominant Root #'s: (at the time): 1,2,3,10,11,12,19,20,21,28,29,30
a. 32 (x)
b. 15 (x)
c. 6 (x)------->next trigger

(5) 1 vs 2: Play 2nd Dominant Root #'s: (at the time): 4,5,6,13,14,15,22,23,24,31,32,33
a. (win) no chip on number
b. --(2nd dominant root #'s in a tie, no play)
c. (1,2,3,10,11,12,19,20,21,28,29,30--new 2nd dominant root #'s) --23(x)
d. 22 (x)
e. 15 (x)

---------------------------30 number root #'s limit------restart root #'s tracking w last 10 hit numbers---------------

Lower Root #'s
--------------------------------------
11,11,12,30,1,10


Middle Root #'s
--------------------------------------
22,22,32,14,6,13,31,15,15,15,24,4


Higher Root #'s
--------------------------------------
26,26,7,7,7,7,25,17,17,27,16,16,18,34


-------------------------------------------------------
(6) 0 vs 1: Play Most Dominant Root #'s: (at the time): 7,8,9,16,17,18,25,26,27,34,35,36
a. 17 (win) no chip on number
b. 12 (x)
c. 7 (win)x2
d. 13 (x)
e. 31 (x)

(7) 3 vs >3: Play Most Dominant Root #'s: (at the time): 7,8,9,16,17,18,25,26,27,34,35,36
a. 15 (x)
b. ----(top root # totals in a tie, no play)
c. (4,5,6,13,14,15,22,23,24,31,32,33--new top root #'s)--15 (x)
d. ----(top root # totals in a tie, no play)
e. (7,8,9,16,17,18,25,26,27,34,35,36--new top root #'s)--(x)

(8) 2 vs 3: Play 2nd Dominant Root #'s: (at the time): 4,5,6,13,14,15,22,23,24,31,32,33
a. (win)--no chip on numbers
b. 7 (x)
c. 16 (x)
d. 11 (x)-----------> next trigger

(9) 2 vs >3: Play Most Dominant Root #'s: (at the time): 7,8,9,16,17,18,25,26,27,34,35,36
a. --no chip on number
b. 34 (win)
c. 4 (x)
d. 7 (win)x5------End Session: New BR=$1031.50

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New Test: Dublinbet Live Wheel #1: December 24,2008: 10:49 CST: Starting BR=$1000

This time I entered 12 spins into the Track4 (The GUT part) before I began tracking the Root Numbers.

---------------------
Lower Root Numbers
---------------------
12,1,1,11,28


---------------------
Middle Root Numbers
---------------------
5,5,23,24,33,33


---------------------
Higher Root Numbers
---------------------
34,27,27,27,35,8,25,25,9,26


----------------------------------------------------
(1) 3 vs >3: Borg Rule-Play Most Dominant Root #'s

a. Tie for Top Root #'s total--no play
b. Most Dominant Root #'s: 7,8,9,16,17,18,25,26,27,34,35,36: 27 (win)x3
c. 9 (win)
d. 26 (win)
e. 23 (x)-----end session: Ending BR=$1049

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New Test: Riverbelle Live Wheel: December 26,2008 4:00 am CST: Starting BR: $57.50

(Entered 12 spins into Track4/GUT before tracking Root Numbers)

--------->New Feature******Limited Attack*****
Place 1 chip of each of the 4 streets instead of 3 chips (or a chip on each number**)
Still add chips on repeater root numbers when it's time to play those root #'s.

*******restarted root numbers tracking on dealer change***********
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Lower Root Numbers: 3,12,20,2,30


Middle Root Numbers: 15,24,22,4


Higher Root Numbers: 36,35,17

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

(1) 2 vs 3: Borg Rule-Play 2nd Dominant Root #'s: 7,8,9,16,17,18,25,26,27,34,35,36

a. 32 x--No chips on any numbers, finishing root #'s tally
b. tie between top and 2nd Dominant root #'s-no play
c. 7,8,9,16,17,18,25,26,27,34,35,36--new 2nd dominant root: 20 (x)
d. dealer change--goto next trigger-restart root numbers tracking

(2) 3 vs >3: Borg Rule-Play most domianant Root #'s

a. Tie between top and 2nd domianant root #'s-no play
b. 1,2,3,10,11,12,19,20,21,28,29,30-new top root #'s: 17 (x)
c. tie--no play
d. 1,2,3,10,11,12,19,20,21,28,29,30-new top root #'s: 30 (win)
e. 24 (x)

(3) 0 vs 1: Borg Rule: Play Most Dominant Root #'s: 1,2,3,10,11,12,19,20,21,28,29,30

a. 4 (x)
b. 20 (win)x2
----End Session----Ending BR=$63.50

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-------------------------------------------------------------------------
New Test: Riverbelle Live Wheel: December 27, 2008: Starting BR=$63.50


Lower Root #'s
---------------
12


Middle Root #'s
---------------
23,15,5


Higher Root #'s
---------------
26,17


-------------------------------------
(1) 1 vs >1: Play 2nd Dominant Root #'s: 4,5,6,13,14,15,22,23,24,31,32,33

a. 28 (x)
b. tie between root #s' totals-no play
c. tie
d. tie
e. tie

(2) 1 vs 2: Play 2nd Dominant Root #'s

a. tie
b. 4,5,6,13,14,15,22,23,24,31,32,33-new 2nd dominant root #'s: 24 (win)
c. 28 (x)
d. 5 (win)
e. tie, dealer change, restart all root # tracking

(3) 1 vs 2: Play 2nd Dominant Root #'s

a. tie
b. tie
c. 7,8,9,16,17,18,25,26,27,34,35,36-new 2nd dominant root #'s: 5 (x)
d. 12 (x)
e. tie

(4) 0 vs 1: Play most dominant root #'s: 4,5,6,13,14,15,22,23,24,31,32,33

a. 17 (x)-no chips played
b. 15 (win)x2---

End Session: Ending BR=$77.00

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---------------------------------------------------------------------------
New Test: Riverbelle Live Wheel: December 27, 2008: 4:43pm CST: Starting BR=$77.00


Lower Root #'s
--------------
1,30,11,20,10


Middle Root #'s
--------------
33,24,23,14


Higher Root #'s
---------------
36,7


------------------------------------
(1) 1 vs 2: Borg Rule-Play 2nd Most Dominant Root #'s

a. tie between top and 2nd dominant root totals
b. tie
c. 7,8,9,16,17,18,25,26,27,34,35,36-new 2nd dominant root #'s: 33 (x)
d. tie
e. tie

(2) 0 vs 1: Borg rule-Play Most Dominant root #'s: (at the time) 1,2,3,10,11,12,19,20,21,28,29,30
a. 1 (win)x2

-------End Session-----Ending BR=$94.00

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--------------------------------------------------------------------------
New Test: Riverbelle Live Wheel: December 27,2008: 8:06pm CST: Starting BR=$94.00


Lower Root #'s
--------------

21


Middle Root #'s
---------------
32,5,24,14,14


Higher Root #'s
---------------
16,36,18,25


-------------------------
(1) 1 vs >1: Borg Rule--Play 2nd Most Dominant Root #'s:

a. tie between top and 2nd dominant root # totals
b. 4,5,6,13,14,15,22,23,24,31,32,33-new 2nd dominant root #'s: 22 (x)
c. tie
d. 1,2,3,10,11,12,19,20,21,28,29,30-new 2nd dominant root #'s: 8 (x)
e. 30 (win)

(2) 3 vs >3: Borg Rule--Play Most Dominant Root #'s: 7,8,9,16,17,18,25,26,27,34,35,36

a. 24 (x)
b. tie
c. 4,5,6,13,14,15,22,23,24,31,32,33-new Most Dominant Root #'s: 25 (x)
d. tie
e. 5 (win)x2---End Session---

Ending BR=$100.50

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-----------------------------------------------------------------

New Test: Riverbelle Live Wheel, December 27,2008: 11:06pm: Starting BR=$100.50

Ending BR=$73.00

-----------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------------------------------------------

New Test: Riverbelle Live Wheel, December 28,2008: 11:09am: Starting Bankroll=$72.00

--------------------
Lower Root #'s

11,21,30


--------------------
Middle Root #'s

33,23


--------------------
Higher Root #'s

16,35


--------------------------
(Entered 12 numbers into Track4 (GUT part) before tracking root #'s)

(1) 2 vs 1: Borg Rule--Play 2nd Dominant Root #'s

a. 7,8,9,16,17,18,25,26,27,34,35,36--2nd Dominant Root #'s: 22 (x)
b. tie between top root # total and 2nd Dominant root group-no play
c. tie
d. 7,8,9,16,17,18,25,26,27,34,35,36--2nd Dominant Root #'s: 23 (x)
e. tie--(Restarted root #'s tracking)

(2) 2 vs 3: Play 2nd Dominant Root #'s:

a. tie
b. tie
c. tie----dealer change, restart root #'s tracking, wait for next trigger

(3) 3 vs >3: Borg Rule-Play Most Dominant Root #'s: 1,2,3,10,11,12,19,20,21,28,29,30

a. 23 (x)
b. 35 (x)
3. (30 (win)x2---End Session

Ending Bankroll=$80.00


-------------------------------------
-------------------------------------
New Test: Dublinbet Live Wheel 1: Time 1:38pm December 28,2008: Starting Bankroll=$1000


Lower Root Numbers
--------------------

1,11,12


Middle Root Numbers
--------------------
6,22,14,14,15


Higher Root Numbers
--------------------
36,36,25,8,35


------------------------------
(Entered 12 numbers into Track4/GUT before tracking root numbers)

(1) 1 vs 2: Borg Rule--Play 2nd Dominant Root #'s

a. tie between top and 2nd root #'s totals
b. tie
c. tie
d. 1,2,3,10,11,12,19,20,21,28,29,30-new 2nd Dominant Root #'s: 31 (x)
e. 23 (x)

(2) 1 vs 2: Play 2nd Dominant Root #'s

a. tie
b. tie
c. 7,8,9,16,17,18,25,26,27,34,35,36-new 2nd Dominant Root #'s: 25(win)
d. 8 (win)
e. 14 (x)

(3) 0 vs 1: Borg Rule-play most dominant root #'s:

a. tie
b. 7,8,9,16,17,18,25,26,27,34,35,36-new most dominant root #'s: 36(win)x2
c. tie
d. tie
e. tie

(4) 0 vs >1: Borg Rule-play Most Dominant Root #'s

a. tie
b. 4,5,6,13,14,15,22,23,24,31,32,33-new most dominant root #'s: 35 (x)
c. tie
d. tie
-------End Session-----Ending Bankroll=$1022.00

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----------------------------------------------------------------
New Test: December 29,2008: 9:13am : Dublinbet Live Wheel #2: Starting Bankroll=$1000.00: Playing with $1.00 chips
(Full Attack--3 chips per street and +1 chip per repeat number)

Lower Root #'s
--------------
11


Middle Root #'s
-------------
22,15,13


Higher Root's #'s
----------------
9


-----------------------------------
(1) 0vs1: Borg Rule-Play Most Dominant Root #'s: 4,5,6,13,14,15,22,23,24,31,32,33

a. 13(win)
b. 22(win)x2 ---End Session----

Ending Bankroll=$1079.00

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-----------------------------------------------------------------------
New Test: Dublinbet Roulette Wheel #2: December 29,2008: Time 12:44pm CST: Starting Bankroll=$1000
(Full Attack-3 Chips per street, +1 chip on all repeaters) Playing with $1.00 chips

---Started with 12 numbers into track4/GUT part before tracking root #'s---

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Lower Root #'s
---------------
19,19,2,28



Middle Root #'s
---------------
5,6,


Higher Root #'s
---------------
16


--------------------------------
(1) 3 vs >3: Borg Rule--Play Most Dominant Root #'s: 7,8,9,16,17,18,25,26,27,34,35,36

a. 25 (win)
b. 14 (x)
c. 4 (4)
d. 16 (win)
e. 9 (win)

(2) 0 vs 1: Borg Rule--Play Most Dominant Root #'s: 7,8,9,16,17,18,25,26,27,34,35,36

a. 27 (win)--no chip on number
b. 21 (x)
c. 28 (x)
d. 34 (win)
e. 14 (x)

(3) 0 vs 1 (again): Play Most Dominant Root #'s: 7,8,9,16,17,18,25,26,27,34,35,36

a. 19 (x)
b. tie between top root #'s totals--no play
c. tie
d. 1,2,3,10,11,12,19,20,21,28,29,30-new most dominant root #'s: 28(win)
e. 6(x)--(Restarted root #'s tracking)

(4) 0 vs 2: Play most dominant root #'s: 1,2,3,10,11,12,19,20,21,28,29,30

a. 19 (win)x3

-----End Session------Ending Bankroll=$1051.00

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------------------------------------------------------------------------
New Test: Dublinbet Live Roulette #2: 3:45pm CST: December 29,2008: Starting Bankroll=$1001.00
(Full Attack--3 chips per street, +1 chip per repeater)

-----------------------
Lower Root #'s

20,11,28,10

-----------------------
Middle Root #'s

15,31,23,32,24,4

-----------------------
Higher Root #'s

18


------------------------
------------------------

(1) 2 vs >2: Borg rule-play 2nd most dominant root #'s: 1,2,3,10,11,13,19,20,21,28,29,30

a. 18 (x)
b. 21 (win)
c. tie between top two root #'s totals-no play
d. tie
e. 4,5,6,13,14,15,22,23,24,31,32,33-new 2nd most dominant root #'s: 3(x)

(2) 0 vs 1: Borg rule-play most dominant root #'s

a. tie
b. tie
c. tie
d. tie
e. 7,8,9,16,17,18,25,26,27,34,35,36-new most dominant root #'s-5 (x)
(restart root tracking)

(3) 2 vs >2: Play 2nd most dominant root #'s: 4,5,6,13,14,15,22,23,24,31,32,33

a. 31 (win)
b. tie
c. 1,2,3,10,11,12,19,20,21,28,29,30-new 2nd most dominant root #'s-32 (x)
d. 24 (x)
e. 18 (x)

(4) 3 vs >3: Borg rule-play most dominant root #'s: 4,5,6,13,14,15,22,23,24,21,32,33

a. 28 x-no chip on any numbers
b. 10 (x)
c. 4 (win)
d. 23 (win) x2
e. 5 (win)

----End Session---Ending Bankroll=$1035.00


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
New Test: Dublinbet Roulette Wheel #2: December 29,2008: 4:39pm CST: Starting BR=$1079.00: $2/chip
(Full Attack, 3 chips per street, +1 for every repeat number)


Lower Root #'s
--------------
19,19,10,21


Middle Root #'s
---------------
31,24,32


Higher Root #'s
---------------
26,9


------------------------------------
(1) 2 vs 3: Play 2nd Most dominant root #'s: 7,8,9,16,17,18,25,26,27,34,35,36

a. 19 (x)
b. 31 (x)
c. tie
d. 7,8,9,16,17,18,25,26,27,34,35,36-net 2nd dominant root #'s: 24 (x)------->next trigger


(2) 2 vs 3: Play 2nd most dominant root #'s: 4,5,6,13,14,15,22,23,24,31,32,33

a. 31 (win)x2---End Session--Ending Bankroll=$1113.00

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---------------------------------------------------------------------
New Test: Dublinbet Live Wheel #2: December 30,2008: 5:08am CST: Starting Bankroll=$1000: $2/chip
(Full Attack, 3 chips per street, +1 on repeat numbers, per repeat)

Ending BR=$258

---------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------------------------------------
New Test: Dublinbet Live Wheel #1: December 30,2008: 8:52am CST: Starting Bankroll=$1000: $2/chip
(Full Attack, 3 chips per street, +1 on repeat numbers, per repeat)


Lower Root #'s
--------------
10,1,19,28,29,29


Middle Root #'s
---------------
15,15,5,14,13


Higher Root #'s
---------------
16


--------------------------------------

(Entered 12 numbers into Track4/GUT part before tracking root #'s)
(Had to restart because there were too many root #'s before first crossing)

(1) 0 vs 1: Borg Rule-play most dominant root #'s: 7,8,9,16,17,18,25,26,27,34,35,36

a. 7 (win)
b. 23 (x)
c. 9 (win)
d. 17 (win)
e. 34 (win)

(2) 0 vs 1: Borg Rule-play most dominant root #'s: 7,8,9,16,17,18,25,26,27,34,35,36

a. 13 (x)
b. 5 (x)
c. 15 (x)------>next trigger (this wiped out my previous wins above)

(3) 0 vs 2: Borg rule-play most dominant root #'s:

a. tie bewteen top 2 root #'s total-no play
b. tie
c. tie
d. 7,8,9,16,17,18,25,26,27,34,35,36-new most dominant root #'s: 22 (x)
e. tie

(4) 1 vs >1: Borg rule-play 2nd most dominant root #'s: 4,5,6,13,14,15,22,23,24,31,32,33

a. 10 (x)
b. tie
c. 1,2,3,10,11,12,19,20,21,28,29,30-new 2nd dominant root #'s: 32 (x)
d. tie-(restarted roots tracking)

(5) 0 vs 1: Borg rule-play most dominant root #'s:

a. tie
b. 1,2,3,10,11,12,19,20,21,28,29,30-new most dominant root #'s: 29 (win)x2
c. 15 (x)

-----End Session----Ending bankroll=$1184.00




Title: Re: "Borg"
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on December 24, 2008, 12:35:12 PM
New tests show promise.  See previous posts.
Title: Re: "Borg"
Post by: trylobit on December 26, 2008, 11:25:02 AM
Hi Proof!
The system looks really good.
I'm not sure about few thigs... if you can explain it to me.

I track numbers as GUT says.
I count how many times Lower, Middle and Higher groups come up.
When I get GUT crossing I bet:
0vs1 - most hits group 5times
1vs2 and 2vs3 -2nd most hits group 5times
3vs4(and more) - least hits group 5 times.

When I bet the group I bet whole group, not just the numbers that came up in that group.

Reset group counting after 30spins, session 50spins or less.

Is that right?

Now: I don't get the repeaters "x2,x3 or how many times it has repeated since you began tracking numbers for the session"

Do I bet x2,x3 the numbers that came up or the streets within?
BTW in this system we bet on streets, NOT the numbers, right?

Thanks a lot!
Best regards.
tryl.
Title: Re: "Borg"
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on December 26, 2008, 08:38:20 PM
Yes, you track the numbers as GUT says, start with 12 numbers first into GUT, then start with the root #'s tracking.
GUT crossings: Anything 0 vs x OR x vs >3: Most Dominant (Root #'s w/ highest total tracked)

                     Everything else, (1 vs 2, 1 vs 3, 2 vs 2, 2 vs 3, etc.) 2nd Dominant Root #'s

Play Most or 2nd Most for 5 spins (unless there is a tie in root numbers total, don't bet.)
                                      OR
Three consecutive misses on a root #'s play (I.e. (x), (x), (x)---->next trigger)

---------------
Look to reset all root numbers groups at all root #'s total 15 numbers, (if it keeps winning, keep tracking).  Mandatory reset if 30 numbers+ in all total root #s.
                             OR
                     Dealer change,
                         ---OR---
One group has almost twice the numbers as the others
(I.e Top root #'s has total 12 numbers,)
2nd Highest Root total has 5 or six----)
-------------------


Repeaters in a group add 1 chip per repeat. (I.e: 21,21--play the street of number + 1 chip on 21)
                                                           (I.e.: 31,31,31--play the street of number + 2 chips on 31)

--------------------

You are betting on 4 streets each time, (cheap way, bet 1 chip on each of the 4 streets--"Limited Attack")
                                                      (maximum $, bet 3 chips on each of the 4 streets--"Full Attack")
                 
                                                   -----Both play with repeater chips------




Title: Re: "Borg"
Post by: trylobit on December 26, 2008, 10:57:11 PM
Thanks a lot proof!

It's all clear now.
How is the testing going?

I'll start my tests and post them here.

Best regards.
tryl.