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Is it better to play random against random then use a system?

Started by lucky_strike, October 24, 2008, 10:13:05 AM

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lucky_strike

Well whats your opinion, is it and do you know how to play random against random.

I have run some test and getting nice results like WWWWWWWLLLWLLLWWWLWLWWWLWW

I think random against random can do as well as any system on this forum but its just my humbel opinion.

Cheers LS

JHM

What do you mean with random? Just playing some?

Play 18 numbers
Play 5 numbers
Play 1-18
Play Black
Play Odd

Something like that?

lucky_strike

So we can test that, lets take EC and I run 300 every day, random against random.
And you pick any system for the EC and run them for 300 every day.

Then we will see if there is a differens :)

Cheers LS

JHM

Quote from: lucky strike on October 24, 2008, 10:36:29 AM
So we can test that, lets take EC and I run 300 every day, random against random.
And you pick any system for the EC and run them for 300 every day.

Then we will see if there is a differens :)

Cheers LS

Random can be anything. You don't think when you bet? You just bet like 50 on red?

lucky_strike

QuoteYou don't think when you bet?

I did not say that but I am saying you can just follow the wheel and pick trails randomly and play with or against them.

JHM this is how it looks like when you play random against random.

nolinksnolinkswlnolinkswlnolinkswlllnolinkslllnolinkswwl

You can pick any thing based upon 1/2 and the result will be the same.
You could pick and write down reds and black from you head and it will still be the same thing.

I think we could be in a coffe chop and look at the cars that pass by and write down there number plates numbers and play aginst odd/even and still beat the game :)

JHM its just my humbel opinion...
I am just trying to explore the law of nature and the distribution of events.
So if a past window is based upon a gamblers fallacy, it should not matter how we would use a past window, the result should be the same.
We have a 50/50 situation no matter what the previos has been, but no one can explain how its a conflict aginst the law of series and its distribution, I like that, I explore that, repeats and non repeats can come in many differnt shapes, depending on how you see things.

LS


JHM

Please explain

nolinksnolinkswlnolinkswlnolinkswlllnolinkslllnolinkswwl

I see you're winning much more than losing (when flat betted). You watch the table?

R
R
R
B
B
B -> you play black to break the trend or red to go with the flow?


lucky_strike

JHM the thing is I dont want any casino staff get there hand on this.
This is what will happen, I think, you will hovering at 50% or you will hit a ratio above 50%.
Thats my humbel opinion.

Here you have the result for 300 trails, random against random.

nolinksnolinkswlnolinkswlnolinkswlllnolinkslllnolinkswwllwlnolinkslwlwwlwlllwwllwlllnolinksnolinkswwlnolinkswlwlwl

I am still experementing with this and explore the idea and I have to say it looks good, its just needs more testing.
I want to see how it peforms when you get some serios fluctation.

47 won
26 loss

Cheers LS

JHM

I understand. The only thing we want is the casino to pay us  :)

lucky_strike


JHM i will test this futher and use the ESTAT to messurment the results.

LS

lucky_strike

An excellent method for measurement is the Estat, for the even money chances.

When you make a test to gain the Estat you have to flat betting, use masse egale.
Its not valid for progressions,

The formula is easy and simpel to use.
To get your Estat you just divide the numbers of won units by the root from the placed bets.

If you can get a value of 2,5 then you have a great method.
If you succed to get 3,0 or above then you will not have any worrys any more.
Assume that you would succed to get a Estat of 6,0 then you would beat the game permanently.

Cheers LS

lucky_strike


Here is a short test, i will continue...

Trngs 070101

nolinksnolinkswlnolinkswlnolinkswlllnolinkslllnolinkswwllwlnolinkslwlwwlwlllwwllwlllnolinksnolinkswwlnolinkswlwlwl

47 won
26 loss

Trngs 070102

lwlwllnolinkswlllwlwllwllwlwllnolinkswwlwlllwlwlwlwwlllwlllwlnolinksl

27 won
29 loss

See_Jerek

Quote from: lucky strike on November 01, 2008, 08:56:24 AM

Here is a short test, I will continue...

Trngs 070101

nolinksnolinkswlnolinkswlnolinkswlllnolinkslllnolinkswwllwlnolinkslwlwwlwlllwwllwlllnolinksnolinkswwlnolinkswlwlwl

47 won
26 loss

Trngs 070102

lwlwllnolinkswlllwlwllwllwlwllnolinkswwlwlllwlwlwlwwlllwlllwlnolinksl

27 won
29 loss

Hello Lucky,

How does this work?looks interesting and the results look cool as well

sniper

Hello Lucky
Thanks again for your new idea and suggestion. It looks interesting and make sense to me.
By the way do you stop betting and go virtual after 3 consecutive losses ? I noticed that your maximum losses in your short test never goes above 3. I will commence testing soon on this idea of yours.

Thanks & Regards
sniper   

lucky_strike

Thanks.

I have been getting PMs regarding this, and I just have to say I will send it to any one how wants it.
When I am done, you see I am just experementing with educated guess work and random against random.

I havent a complete strategy for it, I just try to develop a new idea to hovering around 50% or hit a ratio above 50%.
It is just so many ways you can try to do just that.

So when I have more to add to this I will post it here.
The thing is, I have to run some things using RX before I will know that my concept will cut it.
I would not like to tell you some thing that has not been tested first.

LS

lucky_strike

Well I just want to see if I could find a difference if I use our regular system for EC or play random against random.
Here you can see for your self.
I use the same files, TRNGs 070101 and 070102.

Random against random.

nolinksnolinkswlnolinkswlnolinkswlllnolinkslllnolinkswwllwlnolinkslwlwwlwlllwwllwlllnolinksnolinkswwlnolinkswlwlwl

47 won
26 loss

Trngs 070102

lwlwllnolinkswlllwlwllwllwlwllnolinkswwlwlllwlwlwlwwlllwlllwlnolinksl

27 won
29 loss



Regular system.

wwlwlnolinkslwllnolinkswwlnolinksllwwlllwwlwwlllwwlwwlwlwllwwllnolinkslwlwlllwlwwlwwllllwlllllwllwllwlw

43won
43loss


wwllwwllwlwlnolinkswlwwllnolinkslllwlllwwlwlwlwlllwlwlnolinksllwwlwwlwwllllwwlnolinksnolinkswlwlwllnolinkswlllwlwlwlwwllll

50won
46loss

Ass you can see it does not matter, you can hovering around 50% using both ways.
The question is if you know how to take care of loses when fluctuation hits you.

So if you want to try to hit an ratio above 50% then you can let your first win ride to hit a strike distribution or end as an attempt WL.

LS

lucky_strike

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