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straight bet test

Started by toby, August 26, 2008, 08:21:24 PM

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toby

Hi, I`ve been playing and testing a system on one straight bet, you bet only one number.

You play it in cicles of 179 spins or until you get profit.

The progression is a mixture of on the winning and losing.

If anybody could help me in this test I´ll thank him.

I give details in brief if you ask for.

thank in advance.

toby

gizmotron

Hi,

Here is some telemetry from a Sim I was learning with. It's 300 spins. You would play for a least ten hours in a real casino to get that many spins. Each number, (",# ") item, of a list has how many spins it took before that number hit, the next item is how many it took for it to hit again. The last number is the total number of spins that hit in 300 spins, not counting the last spins to go after the last hit before hitting 300.

01: 24, 2, 162, 26, 11, 21, -- 6 -- 54
02: 74, 47, 148, -- 3 -- 31
03: 11, 17, 17, 1, 114, 24, 20, 31, 2, 25, 1, 5, -- 12 -- 32
04: 39, 4, 60, 12, 8, 48, -- 6 -- 129
05: 58, 23, 35, 13, 97, 8, 19, 36, -- 8 -- 11
06: 54, 24, 9, 18, 72, 2, 23, 20, 7, 4, 67, -- 11 -- 0
07: 2, 112, 10, 6, 2, 110, 10, 2, 13, 8, -- 10 -- 25
08: 16, 84, 46, 127, -- 4 -- 27
09: 113, 70, 12, 8, -- 4 -- 97
10: 56, 10, 18, 52, 11, 28, 21, 1, 1, 11, 3, 38, 14, 17, 3, 12, -- 16 -- 4
11: 1, 29, 12, 65, 59, 21, 29, 31, 50, -- 9 -- 3
12: 7, 66, 65, 7, 3, 110, -- 6 -- 42
13: 36, 29, 21, 42, 33, 71, 42, -- 7 -- 26
14: 14, 33, 24, 9, 77, 7, 37, 58, 2, 25, -- 10 -- 14
15: 25, 7, 9, 54, 68, 136, -- 6 -- 1
16: 33, 19, 3, 82, 76, 11, -- 6 -- 76
17: 48, 106, 11, 58, -- 4 -- 77
18: 10, 2, 8, 1, 42, 31, 61, 36, 20, 44, 24, 19, -- 12 -- 2
19: 98, 8, 13, 88, 14, 59, -- 6 -- 20
20: 13, 44, 85, 63, 83, -- 5 -- 12
21: 99, 2, 69, 2, 28, 71, -- 6 -- 29
22: 61, 36, 61, 59, 14, 29, -- 6 -- 40
23: 4, 31, 73, 45, 16, 16, 14, 9, 85, -- 9 -- 7
24: 40, 13, 17, 39, 30, 13, 29, 38, 17, 34, 13, -- 11 -- 17
25: 9, 66, 68, 16, 59, 72, 4, 1, -- 8 -- 5
26: 5, 44, 13, 65, 8, 14, 13, 83, 46, -- 9 -- 9
27: 3, 20, 14, 27, 3, 5, 17, 3, 10, 31, 34, 111, -- 12 -- 22
28: 6, 25, 13, 73, 73, 25, -- 6 -- 85
29: 59, 1, 17, 19, 14, 2, 38, 28, 66, 4, 8, -- 11 -- 44
30: 22, 47, 19, 30, 33, 43, 34, 21, 36, -- 9 -- 15
31: 27, 11, 93, 9, 1, 86, 3, 8, 2, -- 9 -- 60
32: 29, 22, 17, 76, 30, 65, 4, 8, -- 8 -- 49
33: 18, 58, 3, 43, 12, 34, 12, 2, 11, 72, 12, 5, -- 12 -- 18
34: 15, 70, 40, 81, 86, -- 5 -- 8
35: 17, 172, 68, -- 3 -- 43
36: 50, 40, 14, 72, 65, 31, -- 6 -- 28
-0: 8, 74, 9, 119, -- 4 -- 90
00: 19, 15, 49, 10, 18, 9, 6, 30, 17, 13, 6, 28, 46, 10, 11, -- 15 -- 13

In my opinion you need to flat bet and find the hot number by searching for it and changing to it. The hottest numbers tend to hit within 20 spins. That's well inside the zone of profit. I would go looking for active numbers and just keep jumping to a new active number.

toby

Thanks gizmotron for your instant answer.

The way I play has some details to raise our bets on a hit and raise our bets on a certain period of losses.

Nice 300 spins test and the time they hit.

You now that if you play on a single number for 179 spins you have a 53% of 5 hits in it, so you have 20 numbers of the 37 that will hit 5 or more times.

There are many % to check on this method.

It can be played in several ways depending on your BR.

You open different spreadsheets for different numbers, each one with separate balance.

more details in advance.

I`ll try to expose the systems as I`m actually playing it.



gizmotron

Go ahead, explain how you play it. It should be interesting.

toby

We have several modalities to play the system, I pick the primary, it needs more BR.

1)pick 1 number from the ones that did not hit in the laste 35 spins

2)place 1 unit on it for 35 spins

3)if you miss pick another from the list that did not hit the last 35 spins but take not of the 35 misses for later bets.

4)if you hit u to spin #35 you place 2 unit but on another number and do the same

5)you flatbet until you make profit or you miss 35 straight spins.

6)flatbet for 179 spins

7)when you go through 179 spin without profit in any ball you start a new 179 cicle with 1 more unit on the same number.

8)you must recoup the previous period to switch the number

9)up to 2nd cicle of 179 you raise your bet in any hit until you get profit or finish the 179 spins.

10)as you leave a persecution every 35 misses you need 10 different and independent persecution acting as 10 differents players.

11)when you hit before spin #35 you go to a bigger chip persecution, when you miss you go to a small amount.

12)stop win: you must pass the 1 unit for spin played. EXanmple: you have played 300 spins, first you must get more than 300 unit profit and reset when you begin to lose profit.

13)When you are in profit you stop increasing your bet, you flatbet

14)do not hurry to recoup or to get profit, do not care what happens in a certain table, you can cut actual and play 35 spins in a table, 35 in another, 70 tomorrow. You will hit 1/37 no matter what you do, or not? Exceptions on biased wheels.

15)a session can last weeks or months but your profits will come relaqte to how many spins you played. You make the progression last until you reach it.

16)you use your personal actual instead of table actual, no problems if you miss a spin. Would you hit more or less than 1/37 if you switched tables or days? no.

17)BR: it must be huge, this is the main problem. Most of my variations are made because this system calls for a really big BR. Take 15.000 units to test.

There are many variations I did to this system to use half of the BR but it would be fine if you fullproof this way.

Any Q welcome

toby

toby

If you have time try to check 5 hits on 100 spins within a 179 actual.

Try to see what happens when you play on a number to get the 5 hits.

You switch the number if you miss 35 times for another that has hit once in the last 35 spins.

You switch again in case of a miss from spin 36 to 70 for a number that hit twice within 70 spins and so on..

See what % of numbers get profit if you straight bet on then from the 37 numbers in a 179 actual, 30 in average.

Many realms to study.

best regards.

toby

It takes a math-boy to calculate what % has a  single number to be on any profit when you play it for 179 straight bets, it reaches near 80%.

What I know exactly is haow much you can win or lose in any event: +17.5  or  -82  both in average.

We need to get 4 + before a - to be ok, do we?

Any can foolfroof this?

toby

Quote from: gizmotron on August 26, 2008, 08:41:00 PM
Hi,

Here is some telemetry from a Sim I was learning with. It's 300 spins. You would play for a least ten hours in a real casino to get that many spins. Each number, (",# ") item, of a list has how many spins it took before that number hit, the next item is how many it took for it to hit again. The last number is the total number of spins that hit in 300 spins, not counting the last spins to go after the last hit before hitting 300.

01: 24, 2, 162, 26, 11, 21, -- 6 -- 54
02: 74, 47, 148, -- 3 -- 31
03: 11, 17, 17, 1, 114, 24, 20, 31, 2, 25, 1, 5, -- 12 -- 32
04: 39, 4, 60, 12, 8, 48, -- 6 -- 129
05: 58, 23, 35, 13, 97, 8, 19, 36, -- 8 -- 11
06: 54, 24, 9, 18, 72, 2, 23, 20, 7, 4, 67, -- 11 -- 0
07: 2, 112, 10, 6, 2, 110, 10, 2, 13, 8, -- 10 -- 25
08: 16, 84, 46, 127, -- 4 -- 27
09: 113, 70, 12, 8, -- 4 -- 97
10: 56, 10, 18, 52, 11, 28, 21, 1, 1, 11, 3, 38, 14, 17, 3, 12, -- 16 -- 4
11: 1, 29, 12, 65, 59, 21, 29, 31, 50, -- 9 -- 3
12: 7, 66, 65, 7, 3, 110, -- 6 -- 42
13: 36, 29, 21, 42, 33, 71, 42, -- 7 -- 26
14: 14, 33, 24, 9, 77, 7, 37, 58, 2, 25, -- 10 -- 14
15: 25, 7, 9, 54, 68, 136, -- 6 -- 1
16: 33, 19, 3, 82, 76, 11, -- 6 -- 76
17: 48, 106, 11, 58, -- 4 -- 77
18: 10, 2, 8, 1, 42, 31, 61, 36, 20, 44, 24, 19, -- 12 -- 2
19: 98, 8, 13, 88, 14, 59, -- 6 -- 20
20: 13, 44, 85, 63, 83, -- 5 -- 12
21: 99, 2, 69, 2, 28, 71, -- 6 -- 29
22: 61, 36, 61, 59, 14, 29, -- 6 -- 40
23: 4, 31, 73, 45, 16, 16, 14, 9, 85, -- 9 -- 7
24: 40, 13, 17, 39, 30, 13, 29, 38, 17, 34, 13, -- 11 -- 17
25: 9, 66, 68, 16, 59, 72, 4, 1, -- 8 -- 5
26: 5, 44, 13, 65, 8, 14, 13, 83, 46, -- 9 -- 9
27: 3, 20, 14, 27, 3, 5, 17, 3, 10, 31, 34, 111, -- 12 -- 22
28: 6, 25, 13, 73, 73, 25, -- 6 -- 85
29: 59, 1, 17, 19, 14, 2, 38, 28, 66, 4, 8, -- 11 -- 44
30: 22, 47, 19, 30, 33, 43, 34, 21, 36, -- 9 -- 15
31: 27, 11, 93, 9, 1, 86, 3, 8, 2, -- 9 -- 60
32: 29, 22, 17, 76, 30, 65, 4, 8, -- 8 -- 49
33: 18, 58, 3, 43, 12, 34, 12, 2, 11, 72, 12, 5, -- 12 -- 18
34: 15, 70, 40, 81, 86, -- 5 -- 8
35: 17, 172, 68, -- 3 -- 43
36: 50, 40, 14, 72, 65, 31, -- 6 -- 28
-0: 8, 74, 9, 119, -- 4 -- 90
00: 19, 15, 49, 10, 18, 9, 6, 30, 17, 13, 6, 28, 46, 10, 11, -- 15 -- 13

In my opinion you need to flat bet and find the hot number by searching for it and changing to it. The hottest numbers tend to hit within 20 spins. That's well inside the zone of profit. I would go looking for active numbers and just keep jumping to a new active number.

Try to cut the permanence every 179 spins or in any profit.

Just pick a number and see what happens. Better in a single zero roulette.

Play 1 unit for 179 spin or any profit, if not place 2 units for the following cicle.

Flatbetting in each entire cicle until profit.

toby

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