TwoCat Tests the "Sniper"..........

[ChickenDinner]

Hi Sam,

I see that you're applying a 10% stop win (SW), but are you also applying any sort of SL?

What are your DDs each session? I'd be interested in seeing them.

Cheers

CD

[madupz4]

Sam,

I just tested your exact settings on RNG with Roulette sniper and I made $230 in about 30 minutes!  This is no joke!  Some powerful stuff!  Should I bet real $$$$$$$$$$$$ ?

[TwoCatSam]

mad

Who knows?  I'm amazed at this thing.  I don't trust RNGs as I still am wary of them.

CD

I started with a $500 imaginary bankroll and am up $900 in profit.  My draw downs have been minor, say around $200 units.  Once I did go very low, but it was after I had already won and kept going.  I then went to Peter's idea of 10%.

Peter's idea was to either lose the whole bankroll or win 10%.  I am not betting $2 units, so I could lose it all.  I think if a person applied the bankrolling system outlined by Victor and tested by Matty, this could be a killer system.

Still, it's too early to tell.

Sam

[madupz4]

mad

Who knows?  I'm amazed at this thing.  I don't trust RNGs as I still am wary of them.

CD

I started with a $500 imaginary bankroll and am up $900 in profit.  My draw downs have been minor, say around $200 units.  Once I did go very low, but it was after I had already won and kept going.  I then went to Peter's idea of 10%.

Peter's idea was to either lose the whole bankroll or win 10%.  I am not betting $2 units, so I could lose it all.  I think if a person applied the bankrolling system outlined by Victor and tested by Matty, this could be a killer system.

Still, it's too early to tell.

Sam

Not sure what you mean about the 10% stop win.  With the 10% stop win, are you saying that once you reach 10% of your bankroll to stop?  So if your bankroll is $100 and you reach $110.00 to stop?

[TwoCatSam]

mad.....

Yes, 10% of bankroll.

Sam

[TwoCatSam]

OK, someone asked about draw down.....on this old trot it went down about $1,000!!!  Had some numbers just hit over and over again with no dispersion around the board.  One corner went to $40 and then lost.  Next spin, it hit!

Anyway...........take a look.

[table=,]
Date...,Profit of..,At Spin #...,Bankroll
9.2.8,58,41,558
9.3.8,60,53,618
9.4.8,66,50,684
9.5.8,179,101,863
9.5.8.p2,151,73,1014
9.6.8,142,46,1156
9.8.8,116,48,1272
9.8.8.p2,128,44,1400
8.24.8,142,84,1542
[/table]

Maroon is old spins from last month!

Sam

[NTM]

Hi sam

english is not my first language
so i dont  understand the word" trot"

doest that mean that at one moment
you have a drawdown of 1000

you say that your bankrool was 500?
can you clarify thank you sam?

can you aware me of the fluctuation of the
bankroll during your test on roulette snipper

ntm from Monte carlo

[TwoCatSam]

N

"Trot" is the length of the permanence you are using.  If it's 200 numbers, I call it a 200 number trot.

I started with $500 plugged into the Sniper.  This is not real money.   

I am not tracking drawdowns, but at this time it has not killed the bankroll.

Sam

[ChickenDinner]

$1,000 draw down! Holy Moly! A BR wiping session will come sooner or later. But yes, safer MM would help you to ride out those long dispersions with more confidence & perhaps turn SR into a winning monster. This is what I eventually learnt while playing ATILA on the lines. While I was at first winning all my sessions, I was getting the occasional session where the DD was over 75% of my BR. So I knew I would go bust eventually, but kept playing the same way (always rising a lose) to see how long my winning streak would last. After some very tidy profits from winning 49 sessions on the bounce, I then lost 2 on the bounce, losing 2X $500!

Since then, I've taken Victor's advice and I am now much more conservative with my progressions (betting agressively to begin with, but swapping to passive betting at the first signs of trouble). As a result, my DD has yet to go below 25% of my BR. Sure, the sessions go on longer, but I'm still winning 10% of my BR each session. And when the shit really hits the fan, I can ride out those long dispersions for a hell of a lot longer, and start increasing my bets again when the hits start coming. I'm sure a similar betting strategy would serve SR well. I'd be interested to hear how many sessions you go before the BR is killed!

[TwoCatSam]

I am beginning to get very worried!

[table=,]
Date...,Profit of..,At Spin #...,Bankroll
9.2.8,58,41,558
9.3.8,60,53,618
9.4.8,66,50,684
9.5.8,179,101,863
9.5.8.p2,151,73,1014
9.6.8,142,46,1156
9.8.8,116,48,1272
[/table]

CD

Why do you think that first sentence is in there?  I know this is a Martingale based on the Gambler's Fallacy.  Friend, I'm just having some easy fun here!

Sam

[ChickenDinner]

Hi Sam,

Don't get me wrong mate; I know you're only having a bit of fun with this thing. I'm just using my experiences to demonstrate how when a system relies on big draw downs, a big loss is inevitable. I wouldn't want any newcomers to read this thread and then start betting real cash with SR because of your early test results. BUT, it might have the potential to do very well with some sound MM.

Cheers

CD

[TwoCatSam]

CD

I agree.  Let's say the thing produced 5 bankrolls of $500 and then lost four.  We'd still be $500 up.  I think the multiple bankroll idea of Victor's could apply here.  We know it's going to tank; just don't know when.

Sam

[TwoCatSam]

OK, it finally lost!

I am going to re-do the figures so that it reflects this:  Bets will stay at $1 and the stop-loss is $500 or closest thereto.

[table=,]
Date...,Profit of..,At Spin #...,Bankroll
9.2.8,58,41,558
9.3.8,60,53,618
9.4.8,66,50,684
9.5.8,179,101,863
9.5.8.p2,151,73,1014
9.6.8,71,46,1085
9.8.8,58,48,1143
9.8.8.p2,74,44,1217
8.24.8,71,84,1208
8.24.8,<500>,84,717
[/table]

Maroon is days out of order.  I am not cooking the books; I am progressing in the VLS multiple bankroll direction.

Sam

[TwoCatSam]

[table=,]
Date...,Profit of..,At Spin #...,Bankroll
9.2.8,58,41,558
9.3.8,60,53,618
9.4.8,66,50,684
9.5.8,179,101,863
9.5.8.p2,151,73,1014
9.6.8,71,46,1085
9.8.8,58,48,1143
9.8.8.p2,74,44,1217
8.24.8,71,84,1208
8.24.8,<500>,84,717
9.9.8.p1,79,50,796
[/table]

[TwoCatSam]

Ran out of numbers......

[table=,]
Date...,Profit of..,At Spin #...,Bankroll
9.2.8,58,41,558
9.3.8,60,53,618
9.4.8,66,50,684
9.5.8,179,101,863
9.5.8.p2,151,73,1014
9.6.8,71,46,1085
9.8.8,58,48,1143
9.8.8.p2,74,44,1217
8.24.8,71,84,1208
8.24.8,<500>,84,717
9.9.8.p1,79,50,796
9.9.8.p2,20,95,816
[/table]

I used the second sheet as page 2 and quit at 95 as I could go no further.  Still, twenty bucks..

[TwoCatSam]

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