Genuine Winner system price

[Lexxter]

Hi all of you esteemed players !

I noticed that Genuine Winner system price decreased for 3,500 USD to 2,000 USD (with the possibility to pay the remaining 1,500 USD later from your winnings , with no time-limit).

Does anyone know why mr. Hourmouzis is making this price decrease ?

Thx - Lex

[hermes]

Maybe inflation of AUD?
Hermes

[Steve]

Actually the price is $2100 per 6 months, instead of a one-time fee, so its actually a large price rise.

[NOISIA]

From what I understand, I think his reason for selling is, he no longer needs to play his "Roulette System" because of his Computer partnerships (split profits).   

"you could be netting far more than a measly thousand here and there from the naive roulette player" I read Steve has around 500 hundred players, That is not a "measly" sum.

If Steve earns X amount from computers why would he sit around for hours on end collecting spins etc, when he has a better method in his back pocket? Would you? Why not sell your old method to make even more profit, seems like good business sense to me. 

If what he's selling works, he deserves a medal for all the shit he gets.  I'd have gone insane by now.

Just my take.

[Steve]

Noisia, you are correct. Roulette-randy, you just made comments without doing research. Read below - it's FAQ #1 at my site:

Q1. Why are you selling your winning roulette system?

For a few reasons: first and foremost, we don't need it anymore. Consider that we have powerful roulette computer cheating technology that is even more effective than our roulette strategy. In fact some of our computers are automated, and do not even require the operators to look at the roulette wheels once the camera is aimed (See Hybrid Roulette Computer). We do still have a few roulette system players that pay us 50% of their winnings, but most of our "profit split" arrangements are with regards to our roulette cheating devices. This is because for the time we spend training players, our roulette computer teams are more productive. Learn about our roulette computer partnerships. We do not need further partners at this stage though, so please don't ask - if our team gets any larger, it will be too difficult to manage. Additionally, we cannot possibly play roulette in all casinos - there are thousands of casinos world-wide. So we can afford to allow others to use it - we want to see the result of our hard work being used.

Just one thing that needs clarification - we are always looking for computer partners, but not looking for further system partners.

If you ask why I still sell my computers, consider I dont sell them for $49.95 with free steak knives. You get what you pay for at $20k.

[Steve]

Roulette-randy, I long ago accepted that ignorant people read negative rubbish about me and without any proper research, assume what is written is true, and sure it means fewer clients - whoopie. That is not my primary reason for defence. It is primarily having the truth known, and justice, especially when idiots with remarkably inferior technology call me the scammer. Unfortunately you just have no idea what you're talking about.

Generally yes, those who cant do, teach. And those that both teach and practise what they preach... well they tend to offer things that work, sell at a justified price, and benefit from use of their own technology. Your assumption that I only teach is your problem.

Sorry you are just ignorant and think you know it all, many around like you, but entitled to your opinion.

PS - The majority of people who pay me $20k spend the time with me to see everything in person. Do you really think people would part with such money without seeing adequate proof of my claims? Most who buy computers start with my system, and of course only buy more after a good experience with me and what I teach.

[Steve]

Van, that's an ignorant statement to say the least. You have no idea about my system or what my players are doing, today. If the casinos knew how easily beaten their wheels actually are, they'd poo themselves. They only have a very vague idea, and know only about things like bias analysis and VB.

[Steve]

Randy, it is ignorance that irritates me. And my partners are playing, profiting with me, whether I sleep, type or whatever.

[hermes]

Casinos I am visiting allow you nothing to have with you even not phone! Forget an earphone! Soon they will take your watches off if you are looking on it too often. If you are winning high the security guy is standing behind you and looking over you shoulder what are you writing down - like spy (form of casinos intimidation). Very bad feeling. The best way leave the table for while, go for coffee or so (but first after hit).
The technical advantage casinos use today's to exploit people changed drastically to our disadvantage. Just look the killer slot machines or shuffling machines on card tables! They should be illegal! But because politicians like them they will stay and do even more financial damage to mediocre gamblers.
Hermes

Financial Formula:  casinos + politicians =   

[Steve]

Sure conditions are changing, and so is method of play. Will advantage play always still be viable? I believe so.

[Spike!]

security guy is standing behind you and looking over you shoulder what are you writing down >>>

When they ask to see my roulette card, I hand it over gladly. They look at it and have no idea what it means and they never ask. It makes them feel important.

[Steve]

The surveillance cameras can see just about everything anyway, so whatever you write must not indicate you actually know what you're doing. ie encode it.

[Spike!]

Thats why I show it to them, only I know how to read it. They don't have a clue.

Sometimes they would stand behind me when I played BJ. I would talk to them, ask them questions, and they always went away. If you don'tact intimidated, they lose interest.

[Steve]

I know what you mean. My scribble is high-tech encoding. You need special glasses to see, and then you need to decode it all:

[Spike!]

Mine is simple, like Morse Code. It looks like nonsense.

[Spike!]

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