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The Sixth Sense - A New Roulette System

Started by nullified, May 05, 2011, 01:41:59 AM

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nullified

Okay, probability is obviously not some people's strong point.      But I guess that's okay.      Just a quick suggestion, if you're going to comment on my "poor math" you should check it out first.      Go to iTunes University and download an introduction to Probability, or just Google it.      You'll be better off for it, and it will certainly improve your roulette playing.    

Enough said.    

Now, I want to talk about why I've set this system up exactly the way it is.      I've included a bet on the zero.      And I've included a limited Martingale bet as well.      Without these two features, this bet is absolutely useless and would be far too Mickey-Mouse to seriously consider.    

So let me go through the math again.    

What I am working on is the actual permutations of outcome possibilities for three spins, and then again for six spins.      Have a look again at the list of 27 permutations at the top of this topic.      The reason there are 27 permutations is because I have factored in the zero.      But, if I factor out the zero, then there are only 8 permutation outcomes for three spins, instead of the 27 we have when we use the zero.  

Here are the permutations for outcomes of three spins, without the zero:

1.    rrr
2.    rrb
3.    rbr
4.    rbb
5.    bbb
6.    bbr
7.    brb
8.    brr

If you think this is nit-picking, you're dead wrong.      Factoring out the zero means there are now only 64 possible permutations for any run of six spins (8 X 8 = 64).      However, if I leave in the zero and factor it into the permutations, I now have 27 X 27 = 729 outcome permutations, compared to only 64.    

Why does this matter?  First of all, because we are betting on the zero, so we enjoy a profit when it does hit.      But more importantly, it means that there are 11 times more possible permutations that the wheel or the software can "choose" a pattern from, making it 11 times more likely that your particular pattern is not going to duplicate itself.    

Now, why did I choose to use the limited Martingale instead of some other exotic betting scheme?

The answer is - because there's still too much damned chaos in roulette, even when we map out every possible permutation of six spins.      Waiting for the exact same pattern to come up a second time, and then betting 1 unit that it won't start a third time would take far too much time, and you probably wouldn't make a lot of money that way.    

I thought about logging all 729 permutations as they appear, and then start betting against each one separately after they come up a second time - but again, I don't want to be recording spins all night - I just want to play!

So, as much as we all hate the Martingale, I've used it here (with a stop loss) to save time, and because I figured it was the best way to profit quickly, with only a small chance of losing your $215 - (see attached).    

An added bonus is that, by only "picking out" the patterns that don't have a zero, and betting against them is that, you are taking from a pool of 64 possible patterns (because there is not the zero) and then "opening up the full gamut" of 729 patterns for the roulette wheel to choose from in order to try and match it.     In other words, your odds of winning just went up again, because there is now a 1 in 729 chance that the wheel will be able to exactly duplicate it's own pattern.  

I understand that this method may still not make a lot of sense to some of you, unless you do the math.      If you do the math, you'll see that this is actually a very good way to play - otherwise, you can start from the top post and study what I've written out.    

By the way, I will post the whole 10 pages of permutations in the downloads section and as an attachment.      The permutations are only for six spins, but maybe some of you can find an even more sure way of playing, using this tool.    

The picture attachment shows the win/loss table for this bet.

Antibet

Quote from: nullified on May 06, 2011, 09:26:26 PM
Okay, probability is obviously not some people's strong point.      But I guess that's okay.      Just a quick suggestion, if you're going to comment on my "poor math" you should check it out first.      Go to iTunes University and download an introduction to Probability, or just Google it.      You'll be better off for it, and it will certainly improve your roulette playing.   

Enough said.   

Now, I want to talk about why I've set this system up exactly the way it is.      I've included a bet on the zero.      And I've included a limited Martingale bet as well.      Without these two features, this bet is absolutely useless and would be far too Mickey-Mouse to seriously consider.   

So let me go through the math again.   

What I am working on is the actual permutations of outcome possibilities for three spins, and then again for six spins.      Have a look again at the list of 27 permutations at the top of this topic.      The reason there are 27 permutations is because I have factored in the zero.      But, if I factor out the zero, then there are only 8 permutation outcomes for three spins, instead of the 27 we have when we use the zero.  

Here are the permutations for outcomes of three spins, without the zero:

1.    rrr
2.    rrb
3.    rbr
4.    rbb
5.    bbb
6.    bbr
7.    brb
8.    brr

If you think this is nit-picking, you're dead wrong.      Factoring out the zero means there are now only 64 possible permutations for any run of six spins (8 X 8 = 64).      However, if I leave in the zero and factor it into the permutations, I now have 27 X 27 = 729 outcome permutations, compared to only 64.   

Why does this matter?  First of all, because we are betting on the zero, so we enjoy a profit when it does hit.      But more importantly, it means that there are 11 times more possible permutations that the wheel or the software can "choose" a pattern from, making it 11 times more likely that your particular pattern is not going to duplicate itself.   

Now, why did I choose to use the limited Martingale instead of some other exotic betting scheme?

The answer is - because there's still too much damned chaos in roulette, even when we map out every possible permutation of six spins.      Waiting for the exact same pattern to come up a second time, and then betting 1 unit that it won't start a third time would take far too much time, and you probably wouldn't make a lot of money that way.   

I thought about logging all 729 permutations as they appear, and then start betting against each one separately after they come up a second time - but again, I don't want to be recording spins all night - I just want to play!

So, as much as we all hate the Martingale, I've used it here (with a stop loss) to save time, and because I figured it was the best way to profit quickly, with only a small chance of losing your $215.   

An added bonus is that, by only "picking out" the patterns that don't have a zero, and betting against them is that, you are taking from a pool of 64 possible patterns (because there is not the zero) and then "opening up the full gamut" of 729 patterns for the roulette wheel to choose from in order to try and match it.     In other words, your odds of winning just went up again, because there is now a 1 in 729 chance that the wheel will be able to exactly duplicate it's own pattern.  

I understand that this method may still not make a lot of sense to some of you, unless you do the math.      If you do the math, you'll see that this is actually a very good way to play - otherwise, you can start from the top post and study what I've written out.   

By the way, I will post the whole 10 pages of permutations in the downloads section.      The permutations are only for six spins, but maybe some of you can find an even more sure way of playing, using this tool.   

You can't change the house edge, bettting zero or not makes no difference, you would need infinate bankroll and no

table limit to have the edge....... I tested this on random.org and of course you win some and lose some and the exact

margin of loss is the house edge, that said i am a fan of marty and i do like this type of system, so use now and then

and enjoy but as with all systems be prepared to lose long term?

nullified

QuoteYou can't change the house edge, bettting zero or not makes no difference, you would need infinate bankroll and no

table limit to have the edge....... I tested this on random.org and of course you win some and lose some and the exact

margin of loss is the house edge

Antibet,

Actually, I'm not even trying to beat the house edge.  The fact that I'm betting on zero is only to increase my chances of the wheel NOT replicating it's own pattern.  When I don't win on zero, I still win on my color, so that zero is absorbed in the bet, even if it doesn't show all day.  It really doesn't matter if it shows or not.  What does matter is that, by factoring in the zero, I have increased my chances of winning by more than 11 times.

Hope that clears things up.

Antibet

Yep, the system sounds better without all the BS you spouted. I never originally commented on your patterns

etc as I saw through it. I often use some form of Marty in my strategy and I am using your six step progression without

the zero and treating 0 as a lost colour. The progression then becomes like a Grand Martingale which produces quick

profits.

Trouble is everybody here wants the holy grail and when a system such as yours which fails long term comes along

(again) we all get disappointed. Here's a thought.....

Why have we never seen 1 2 3 4 5 6 come up on the national lottery?

Answer is there are 13,000,000+ other combinations that haven't shown either.

The number 1 ball does not know it has number 1 on it. If you pick numbers 1 2 3 4 5 6 and they win though you will be

sharing your jackpot with 50,000 other people.

Keep up the good work Nulli

beretta28

Once again Antibet is completly right.

Nullified
You have studied probabilities  on Google,but I'm afraid that you have not understood them.
We have not discussed your theories since years in this Forum,because also the most novice players has well understood they are completly wrong.

I'm 52 and chemical engineer.
May I know your age and education?

Kagatori

Quote from: beretta28 on May 07, 2011, 06:40:50 AM
Once again Antibet is completly right.

Nullified
You have studied probabilities  on Google,but I'm afraid that you have not understood them.
We have not discussed your theories since years in this Forum,because also the most novice players has well understood they are completly wrong.

I'm 52 and chemical engineer.
May I know your age and education?

You really have got patronisng people down to a fine art, Baretta well done.

birdhands


Wheel Man

I see dead presidents.

Sorry. Couldn't resist.   

schoenpoetser

Playing Martingale on the even chances the zero has a special roll.
You expect a 10 row shall not repeat.You bet Martingale.The zero means the row is repeating.It is a no-hit but the roulette gives bach the half of the bet.After 9 no-hits the row doesnot repeat.You win 1 unit.

     H   H         1            0
     H   H         2            0
     L    L         4            0
     L    L         8            0
     L    L         16          0
     H   H         32          0
     L   ZERO   64          32
     H   H        128         0
     H   H        256         0
     H   L         512        1024   hit


Total bet 1023 payout 64 units


schoenpoetser

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