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[TwoCatSam]

Jur

I know your heart is in the right place, so read this carefully!  I don't want to offend anyone else.

If I get today's video posted you will hear me say just what you are saying!  I know that full well.

I am a goal-oriented person and my goal is to either prove winkel wrong or right using his own words.  Words which I have archived and can pull from their musty shelf.

In the beginning, did he or did he not say that we should "bet every crossing"?  Did he say it?  Yes, he did.  But when I showed him he was not betting every crossing and was betting some which clearly were not crossings, I fell into disfavor!  I don't have sense enough not to pee against the wind, in his words.

Did the man say or did he not that we could bet every crossing and made no decisions (clinical) and the thing would win?  Yes, he did!  I have it archived! 

When KFS showed him his "Spruce Goose" would not fly, he said we must use "gambler's intelligence".  We must now make decisions!  What happened to blindly bet every crossing?  What's with that?

So, hear me once again.  I don't want to make decisions.  The decisions are made beforehand.  I laid out the rules.  Herb is right when he says people retrofit their data to fit their expectations.  "Oh, let's toss this one out!"  "Now, I wouldn't have really bet that!!  Can't count it!"

These things are not tests; they are people fooling themselves for whatever reason. 

If you can do it--great!  Go for it.  Post your results!  Don't just say, "This thing wins."  Post some screen shots.  "Blow up the bridge, blow up the truck, blow out your brains---but do SOMETHING!  Patton

Now, let's test this thing according to his "clinical" rules with a video running and see what it does.  Since he refuses to post the rules, we have to glean them from this writings.  Nova, mad and I have done that!

Sam

[JHM]

Sam,

Very good post. Every word you said is true. Winkel said, bet every crossing you can't go wrong. Don't bet more than .. times (depending on the numbers). Don't bet when a crossing is over.

Now I see where you, mat and nova are going. I will take my words earlier back on nova and mat.

I hope you and Winkel can agree on the clinical way of testing. Than you can test and tell us once and for all if it's working or not.

[TwoCatSam]

Jur

Frankly, I think the rules are clear.  I'll go one further.  I think this thing works.  The fact that winkel has chosen to take the low road does not mean his not a genius as he says nor does it mean his system is bad.  As he once said, his struggle with English does not make him wrong--just difficult to understand.

I've got nearly a hundred hours of work and study in this system.  You think I'll walk without an answer?

We shall have an answer we can all hear and the numbers will be posted!  The tracker creates a file!  droidman, you're OK, bud!

Sam

[JHM]

Sam,

I'm testing too and think his system works. Just for your information, all live on dublinbet. I'll be testing more and when I'm done I'll post.

Testing GUT               
Casino   Table   Date   Units   Bet   Hit
Dublinbet   2   21-10-2008   19   Win -16 +35
Dublinbet   1   21-10-2008   19   Win -16 +35
Dublinbet   2   21-10-2008   -56   Loss on bets -17 -16 -16 -15 -14 Win -13 +35
Dublinbet   1   22-10-2008   21   Win -14 +35
Dublinbet   2   22-10-2008   25   Win -16 +35, Win -15 -14 +35, Win -14 -13 +35, Loss -10 -10 exit (cross over), Loss -12 (cross over), -11 +35
Dublinbet   1   22-10-2008   48   Win -15 +35, Win -15 -14 +35, Win -13 +35
Dublinbet   1   23-10-2008   13   Win -9 -8 +35, Lose -10 -10 (cross over), Win -10 +35, Lose -10 (spin 50)
Dublinbet   1   23-10-2008   54   Win -8 +35, Win -8 +35
Dublinbet   2   23-10-2008   13   Lose -15 -15, Win -14 +13 +35, Win -13 -12 +35, Win -10 +35
Dublinbet   2   23-10-2008   -23   Win -15 +35, Win -15 -14 +35, Lose -13 -13, Lose -11 (cross over), Lose -12-12-12, Win -11 +35
Dublinbet   1   23-10-2008   2   Win -17 16 +35
Dublinbet   1   24-10-2008   -14   Win -17 -16 +35, Win -15 +35, Lose -9 -9 -9, Lose -9 (cross over)
Dublinbet   2   24-10-2008   42   Win -15 +35, Win -13 +35
Dublinbet   1   24-10-2008   4   Win -13 +35, Lose -10 (cross over), Lose -10 -10 (cross over), Win -12 -11 +35
Dublinbet   1   24-10-2008   -11   Lose -15 -15, Lose -10 (cross over), Win -12 +35, Win -10 -10 +35
Dublinbet   1   25-10-2008   46   Win -14 +35, Win -10 +35
Dublinbet   1   27-10-2008   5   Lose -16 (cross over), Win -14 +35
Dublinbet   1   27-10-2008   38   Win -15 +35, Lose -15 -15, Win -13 +35, Win -9 +35
Dublinbet   1   28-10-2008   2   Win -16 -15 +35

[winkel]

Hi TCS,

In the beginning, did he or did he not say that we should "bet every crossing"?  Did he say it?  Yes, he did.  But when I showed him he was not betting every crossing and was betting some which clearly were not crossings, I fell into disfavor!  I don't have sense enough not to pee against the wind, in his words.

Yes I did! [highlight]BUT[/highlight] then people came and complained "I´m losing, what can I do?"
This was the step where I put in "a most advantaged way of playing"
Later on you stepped in and got confused about "contradictions" between the first and the following posts not seeing it is an development of the first steps.
"to pee against the wind" is a word by word tranlating from German to English. I don´t know the english versions of what it means in German. What I tried to say: If the thing is going badly why shall I sit on it an loose money? Then it is better to stop or not to bet or to jump.
I didn´t expect that people (like you do) go and bet a 2-2 crossing at spin 10. I never did it, I even never tried it or thought about.
And at last: If you decide that a crossing 0vs>1 is not a crossing in your opinion: I can´t help, sorry! I tried several times to explain that.

Did the man say or did he not that we could bet every crossing and made no decisions (clinical) and the thing would win?  Yes, he did!  I have it archived!

Yes I did and I tried to proof this with my clinical test. But as above people complained about losses despite I´ve always said "losing is part of the game" and asked for help and advice: I gave advices by my own experiences and knowledge.
My Intent was that people go and test the game with "virtual money" so they can make their own experiences and see "what is going on". From that point I wanted to lead them to higher levels. Lastly it mixed up and confused people like you, sorry for that I didn´t mean it.

he said we must use "gambler's intelligence".  We must now make decisions!  What happened to blindly bet every crossing?  What's with that?

see above

retrofit their data to fit their expectations.

Are you sure I did that or it was my intent? Do you believe I took years of creating and playing it on myself , have been losing and now spread it throughout the world to cheat people? Do you really think I´m such a person?

So TCS, if you do so, thanks for that and this time I really quit.

I can stand people like Herb (with headache, heartburn and woming) but this would be something I couldn´t stand at all.

they are people fooling themselves for whatever reason.  

If this is your description of mine I apologize for giving this HG to this forum.

[winkel]

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