Hi all roulette lovers.
I have a profit after 10. 000 Hamburg spins with my own developed system.
It is all handtested and since it is in profit , I was wondering if some wizzkid on this forum could help out .
Would love to see this system perfom on 100. 000 spins ,even 1000. 000 .
the great thing about my system is that it is based on flatbetting.
thanks for any help!!
tell us your system and someone will, ill help out.
go to the casino and play it . you will know one way or the other.
Mechanical roulette systems are generally very easy to program in multiple computer languages and several programs.
Systems that require hunches, guesses, intuition or "voo-doo" mathematics are much harder to attempt.
If yours is the first one, post it up. We have many really good programmers hanging around here.
If it's the second one, I'll kindly step aside for now.
AD
You have handtested 10,000 spins? That must have taken a long time!
8)yes it took about a week!
Got about 200 printouts at home with Hamburg nrs ,every day has about 300 spins on average , been using these hamburg nrs for many tests in the past and it saved me alot of money.
Had few systems that were in positive for over 5000 spins but went negative after that,so these Hamburg nrs have been very usefull .
I actualy have 2 systems at the moment that need more testing,they both survived the first 10. 000 spins.
I am also playing these systems on the Roulette simulator ,and they perform OK.
I am considering putting the system on this forum ,but have been reading here for a while and seen lots of abuse from forum members when someone has an idea for the roulette.
My system is losely based on law of 3rd and plays en plein nrs.
thats true mate, they will but i guess they will tell you if it dosent work.
Quote from: wannaretire on January 25, 2011, 07:22:31 AM
8)yes it took about a week!
I am considering putting the system on this forum ,but have been reading here for a while and seen lots of abuse from forum members when someone has an idea for the roulette.
Hi
Im afraid its the nature of the beast that someone will spout some abuse.
Have the last laugh and post it anyway...if it works then great..If not you will at least know quicker.
OK,will try to explain:
always flatbet.
always play till 2 x hit OR till 36 spins.
session ends with 2 hits or at spin 36
play nr or nrs that have 2 hits (repeaters) .
When nr hits (so now has 3 hits ) keep playing this nr and all nrs that have repeated till 2 hits total or till spin 36.
So we could be playing sometimes 6/7 nrs at same time.
We hope that within cycle of 36 spins nrs will hit more then 2 times or even more then 3 times.
We win when 2 hits will fall fast enough (on the nrs that have already repeated and are being played ) ,we lose if have to play till 36 spins or if nrs get 3 hits to late .
In my testing off course there are losing sessions ,but system seems to hold it own pretty good.
Playing on live tables is the best way for this system .
Would love to see a 100. 000 spin simulation for this system.
I hope I expained it good enough.
It is quite simple really but effective.
I realize there are similar systems out there ,but this is a unique and personally developed version that seems to be in profit on the whole
Im sure there will a few looking at this for you..Thanks for posting.
The doubters will probably be along too!!
Just wanted to add:\one could also stop session on profit ,so 1 hit is only needed in some sessions.
Hope someone picks up on this . . . . . . . . . . . . .
I quite like this idea.
I've used various repeat methods but in a continuous run following each repeat for a set number of bets.
I like the idea of parcelling up 36 spins as one sequence win or lose. It will give more control over how you play. I have a tendency to just continue when the repeats just won't come even though I know I should stop.
Robert
You wrote:"play nr or nrs that have 2 hits (repeaters) .
When nr hits (so now has 3 hits ) keep playing this nr and all nrs that have repeated till 2 hits total or till spin 36."
What is NR & NRS stands for?
Thanks,
John
Please give a sample on how to play the system?
Thanks,
John
Quote from: jrhelp007 on January 25, 2011, 11:46:41 PM
You wrote:"play nr or nrs that have 2 hits (repeaters) .
When nr hits (so now has 3 hits ) keep playing this nr and all nrs that have repeated till 2 hits total or till spin 36."
What is NR & NRS stands for?
Thanks,
John
NR - Number
NRS - Numbers
Cheers
I've some questions
Quote from: wannaretire on January 25, 2011, 09:42:02 AM
always flatbet.
always play till 2 x hit OR till 36 spins.
session ends with 2 hits or at spin 36
play nr or nrs that have 2 hits (repeaters) .
When nr hits (so now has 3 hits ) keep playing this nr and all nrs that have repeated till 2 hits total or till spin 36.
So we could be playing sometimes 6/7 nrs at same time.
We hope that within cycle of 36 spins nrs will hit more then 2 times or even more then 3 times.
We win when 2 hits will fall fast enough (on the nrs that have already repeated and are being played ) ,we lose if have to play till 36 spins or if nrs get 3 hits to late .
1st question:You play numbers that have 2 hits, but how you get that numbers?
how many spins do you track before to get the nrs with 2 hits before playing?
2nd question:I've in the 36 spins cycle (or until the second hit), you get a number that have hitted once before (now it hitted for the second time), will you start betting on it?
3rd question:In the track (if there is track envolved), if you get a nr with 3 hits, do you play it too when the cycle starts?
I think it's all for now :P
Cheers,
Afonso
Regarding my previous post
As you didn't mentioned any tracking on your system explanation, I presume it doesn't requires any tracking.
So you simply start your 36 spins cycle with no bets on.
As it progress you will wait for a nr/nrs to hit 2 times and then bet it till you get 2 hits or the cycle finish
If that is the case, my previous questions are all answered already :)
But a 36 spins cycle to track numbers with 2 hits and still bet then after the 2 hits, is a little short...
So I really need some explanation of the author. As no tracking was mentioned, but a 36 spins cycle with no tracking before is to short...
Cheers,
Afonso
QuoteAs you didn't mentioned any tracking on your system explanation, I presume it doesn't requires any tracking.
So you simply start your 36 spins cycle with no bets on.
As it progress you will wait for a nr/nrs to hit 2 times and then bet it till you get 2 hits or the cycle finish
If that is the case, my previous questions are all answered already
THIS IS CORRECT !!Must say that this system is playable in 2 different ways .
1. start to bet repeating numbers , one stops on profit ,so in some sessions one stops after 1 hit if no profit or hits ,play till 36 spins then take the loss. . . . . . . . . . .
2. play the system as described:
start playing every repeater that falls.
Only play flatbet.
Stop after 2 hits or at 36 spins ,while playing the session bet all repeaters ,also if they had 3 hits.
Stop at 2 hits or after 36 spins.
example:
session:
0
36
25
30
7
18
26
0. . . . . . . . . . . now start putting 1 chip on zero
29
5
12
7. . . . . start putting 1 chip on seven as well as zero
33
0. . . . . hit,but keep playing zero & seven (
if playing stop after profit ,then stop here for profit of 28 units)
29. . . . now we are betting 1 chip on 0,7,29
0. . . . 2nd hit ,we stop playing session is finished we have 59 untis profit.
Hope this clears it up.
It's very clear now.
thanks for the explanation :)
I will test it when I get some free time.
I always give a try for systems based in inside numbers and only flat bets ;)
Can you email me some of your tests pls?
My email is in my profile
thanks in advance
Best regards,
Afonso
On the basis that there is some opinion that RNG tends to produce more repeats I tested this on Betvoyager in fun mode.
I used Betvoyager because I could pick 36 pre generated numbers at a time to keep things simple. Although it's not been a long test the results were promising. Up and down a bit but overall a steady increase in bankroll.
So I thought I'd make it more interesting by going into real mode and had steady gains for a few sequences. Then I hit a run of sequences with loads of double repeats (up to 11) with only 1 or no treble repeats.
Now I've always assumed that because the numbers on Betvoyager are pre generated and fixed all was always fair but of course that doesn't mean that the RNG can't cotton on to your pattern of play and give you sequences to beat you. It could , of course, just be the normal random variation but you can't help being suspicious.
Any views on this.
Robert
Just to make that last post a bit clearer. I know that around 12 repeats in 36 is fairly normal, but playing this method the winning games tend to have fewer doubles and at least 2 trebles and finish with the 2 wins before running through the whole 36 spins.
Going through 36 spins with 12 repeats but no 3rd repeat is not so common.
Robert
Hi Wannaretire,
Your system looks very interesting and easy to follow. Mind if you share, what's the biggest drawdown you encounter with this system during your manual testing?
Also, if you get 2 hits before 36 spins, do you re-start tracking from the next spin? or will the previous repeats still count somehow?
Hope to hear from you soon :)
Hi ,I would post some of my handtesting on here.
Need to scan it first.
It does have some drawdown in some sessions ,but overall sofar there is a steady rise in bankroll.
I wonder if we could make this system better,or if this is as good as it gets. . . . . . . . .
I also play 2 other systems whereby I start betting on the 12 nrs that have not yet fallen after 40 spins or so.
And the opposit of this I play as well,whereby I actualy play spin 40 - 74 ,playing all nrs that have alreay fallen ,hoping that not all nrs will come out in 74 spins ,which is normally the case.
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Quote from: wannaretire link=topic=17726. msg126897#msg126897 date=1296293651
Hi ,I would post some of my handtesting on here.
Need to scan it first.
It does have some drawdown in some sessions ,but overall sofar there is a steady rise in bankroll.
I wonder if we could make this system better,or if this is as good as it gets. . . . . . . . .
I also play 2 other systems whereby I start betting on the 12 nrs that have not yet fallen after 40 spins or so.
And the opposit of this I play as well,whereby I actualy play spin 40 - 74 ,playing all nrs that have alreay fallen ,hoping that not all nrs will come out in 74 spins ,which is normally the case.
:good:
I Think your current system have more potential and I've tested a few spins these past few nights, 8 out of 10 times not all numbers will come out within 74 spins. Sleepers can easily hit 100 spins or more.
That idea is similiar to the following thread. But I think he tracks 60 spins and play the sleepers till only 3 sleepers left
hxxp: vlsroulette. com/gambling-and-roulette-related/4-number-bet-(cold)/