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Odds in your favor system

Started by azguy, April 02, 2012, 07:55:46 PM

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azguy

I am new to the forum so hi!  I love roulette and I have been studying it for years.  The only thing I see that works consistently is betting based on probability.  I know, that the ball falls at random, but I also know that for example most numbers will show by 100 spins.  As you know over time more and more numbers will show. There are some facts in roulette and any strategy should be based on the few facts.

Anyway, I have this simple yet excellent system that I would like some feedback on for improvement.  Once you read it you will understand where I am going with this.

After 100 spins an average of 1-5 numbers won't show up.  Imagine if you reached into a bag of 38 numbers to pull out one number.  Imagine there are 5 bad joker numbers.  You have a very good chance that you will NOT grab a joker.  That is the basis of the system concept.

System:

randomly pick one number out of the 38(double zero wheel) and play it til it hits or to 100 spins, whichever comes first.  Use this progression on that one number.... 

first 20 spins= 1 unit

second 20 spins= 2 units

third 20 spins= 4 units

fourth 20 spins= 10 units

fifth 20 spins= 25 units

adding up to 100 spins


It really works well, because as long as you have the bankroll your wins will more than make up for the occasional bad guess.  If anyone has ideas to improve this let me know.  The concept is sound because it makes the odds very much in your favor, I just think maybe someone thinking outside the box could perfect this.  Thanks in advance!   8)

azguy

forgot to mention that once your number hits you stop playing that number and randomly pick a new number.

TwoCatSam

Thank you for posting.  We need some ideas and discussion.

Sam

azguy

A good way to play is to do the system with a random number in each section ...1-12, 13-24, and 25-36.  play each section as its own separate game,  When a sections number goes to 100 and doesn't win that section is dead and u stop picking a new number for it.  Once all three sections are dead you stop, or if you get tired of playing whichever comes first,

TwoCatSam

Your system involves a lot of time.  If you have lots of time to spend at the table/online, I can give you a couple of systems which require long term sitting.

You could work them together.  Only if you want.....

Sam

azguy

Two cat,   I actually use the real but automated wheels so they spin a spin a minute so it isn't too much time.   I would love to hear your long systems though. 

TwoCatSam

azguy

See what you think of this.............

The Waker System  (As named by VLS)

Track all 37/38 numbers.  When one has slept for 74/76 spins it is consider asleep.  When it hits for the first time after going to sleep, it is a "waker".  Play it for the next ten spins.  That's all there is to it.  Use any progression you choose.

I caught a ton of winning numbers with this back when I played online.

Where do you play?  Are you an American?  From Arizona?

Sam

Robeenhuut

Quote from: azguy on April 02, 2012, 11:24:29 PM
Two cat,   I actually use the real but automated wheels so they spin a spin a minute so it isn't too much time.   I would love to hear your long systems though.

Start tracking repeaters. Usually in first 12 spins you will get at least one. Wait until you get at least 3 and if you dont get hit earlier then in 24 spins start betting on all d repeaters and keep adding new ones. Use prog  to stay in profit after potential win.
In 50000 spins on Rx longest wait for any number to hit 3 times is 47 spins. Only 5 or 6 times it went over 40 spins. Mostly you get hit within 36 spins so if you start at spin 24 you get win in 12 spins. Many times it hits on first spin.  I call it dime holy grail.  >:D  U need BR of 5000u to be completely invincible but usually 2000u will allow you to cover around 20 spins.  Its variation of Pivot system which is quite successful but you can not start betting immediately because then you would need  to cover more 30 spins. Longest i have ever went were 17 spins and i needed 1000u to continue betting.
Its not for everybody because it requires lots of tracking, waiting and adjusting your prog.
Its easy to verify how it behaves on Rx. You can simulate around 300 games or 10000 spins in 1 hour. I know it seems bit crazy but it works. I know maybe 50000 spins is not enough but this thing is remarkably consistent. Thats about probability and distribution laws. How many times you see that a number that hit 2 times short time ago hits again and you ask yourself  "Damn why did not i bet on it?" 

Regards

Regards


kaos_inc

So when your number hits and you pick another number at random do you start your progression again from 1 or continue the progression from whatever spin out of 100 you're at?

kaos_inc

Disregard my last post, you start the progression again after your number hits and another random number is chosen.

kaos_inc

I played this system for approx 5 hours and was up $900 when I finished. When I played I found the majority of the time the number hit between 30 to 50 spins on average. one time i was on spin 99 and the number finally hit lol. The only thing is my max bet on a number is $10in the online casino I play so the one time i went over 80 spins ($25 bet per spin) I wasn't able to bet  that much so I continued to play $10 a spin. I didn't win as much as I could have with $25, however I didn't loose as much per spin either. I also tested this system on TestMyStrategy.com / Home for Roulette Systems and Strategies! for a small amount of time to see if there would be many times where a number didn't show within 100 spins. I actually didn't test this strategy by changing numbers when the number hit I just chose a random number and tested it per 100 spins over and over again. Out of about 3000 spins there was 1 time when the number didn't show per 100 spins.

I guess I got lucky using this system!

kaos_inc

I have been playing this system for a few weeks and think it's great, however I have also been thinking of ways to improve the odds. I think trying split bets to cover two numbers instead of one would be worth a try. The problem is the odds are 17/1 so system progression needs to change a little. I was thinking to increase bets every 10 spins instead of 20 but don't want the progression to end at really high amount. I was thinking:

Spin 1-10 $0.10
Spin 11-20 $0.20
Spin 21-30 $0.50
Spin 31-40 $1.00
Spin 41-50 $2.50

Anyone have any ideas of how to progress spins 51 to 100 for the next 5 increments?


insidebet

Hello,

I have been testing Robbenhuut system and so far, so good.  I have tested it for several thousand of spins and it holds up very well.  I have a fixe limit of 1 500 units as a stop loss.  I have only encountered a loss on 4 occasions, while having well over 750 wins.  Do the math...

I have always said that, for a system/method to win, there had to be a reason for it.  It is hard to see why this would win.  The author said something about <<distribution>>.  I would like him to elaborate on that, if possible.

Regards.

Insidebet

Robeenhuut

Quote from: insidebet  on July 11, 2012, 11:19:18 PM
Hello,

I have been testing Robbenhuut system and so far, so good.  I have tested it for several thousand of spins and it holds up very well.  I have a fixe limit of 1 500 units as a stop loss.  I have only encountered a loss on 4 occasions, while having well over 750 wins.  Do the math...

I have always said that, for a system/method to win, there had to be a reason for it.  It is hard to see why this would win.  The author said something about <<distribution>>.  I would like him to elaborate on that, if possible.

Regards.

Insidebet

Hola Insidebet

Glad you have such good results. I always try to do lots of testing and always felt comfortable with numbers bet. The reason is not so important but observation of some patterns is. And Insidebet  you are still relatively early to make any definitive conclusions because its a progression system.  I do not play it anymore because my internet connection is not reliable and i dont want to be cut off in the middle of long progression.  :smile:  Thanks for testing anyway.

Regards

insidebet

Hello again,

I know very well that progression-based systems are very tricky.  I usually dont rely on them at all.  But I have tested this for well over 20K spins.  And I bet on almost every spin.  So this is getting to be quite a large sample.

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insidebet

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