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Started by azguy, April 02, 2012, 07:55:46 PM

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macduff

Quote from: Robeenhuut on April 03, 2012, 04:08:18 AM
Start tracking repeaters. Usually in first 12 spins you will get at least one. Wait until you get at least 3 and if you dont get hit earlier then in 24 spins start betting on all d repeaters and keep adding new ones. Use prog  to stay in profit after potential win.
In 50000 spins on Rx longest wait for any number to hit 3 times is 47 spins. Only 5 or 6 times it went over 40 spins. Mostly you get hit within 36 spins so if you start at spin 24 you get win in 12 spins. Many times it hits on first spin.  I call it dime holy grail.  >:D  U need BR of 5000u to be completely invincible but usually 2000u will allow you to cover around 20 spins.  Its variation of Pivot system which is quite successful but you can not start betting immediately because then you would need  to cover more 30 spins. Longest I have ever went were 17 spins and I needed 1000u to continue betting.
Its not for everybody because it requires lots of tracking, waiting and adjusting your prog.
Its easy to verify how it behaves on Rx. You can simulate around 300 games or 10000 spins in 1 hour. I know it seems bit crazy but it works. I know maybe 50000 spins is not enough but this thing is remarkably consistent. Thats about probability and distribution laws. How many times you see that a number that hit 2 times short time ago hits again and you ask yourself  "Damn why did not I bet on it?" 

Regards

Regards
Hi guys,
I also have been testing this system for over 10,000 spins,all recorded with the good old pencil and paper method.
In 400 sessions only 7 sessions have gone over 37 with the highest being 43 spins. 267 sessions have hit 3rd repeater within 24 spins. 133 have gone over 24 spins.

Robeenhuut

Quote from: insidebet  on July 12, 2012, 11:27:57 AM
Hello again,

I know very well that progression-based systems are very tricky.  I usually dont rely on them at all.  But I have tested this for well over 20K spins.  And I bet on almost every spin.  So this is getting to be quite a large sample.

Insider

Hello Insider

Do you play it the way i posted?  I guess you made some changes?

insidebet

Yes I made a few changes.  I play from the first repeat on.  Too many times a number would three peat before I had my three numbers to repeat.  I did not think it would make much a difference at the end.  Also, much less waiting time in real live play.

So let say i get

34
5
7
34

at the start, I jump on 34 right away and add any other repeat as they come.

Also, after a win, instead of starting from scratch, i look at the 12 recent #s (including the winning #) and start right away with any # that has appeared twice in those 12 #s.  Very often, but not always, i will play the winning # again.

Regards,

Insidebet
(the only way)

BigWork

Can enyone cod in rx sistem thet bet on all num what repeat 2 times-Sistem will bet from spin 1-38
I test play it from 1-24 and somtime i winn somtime i lost.And from 24-38 i winn most time.

Robeenhuut

Quote from: macduff on July 12, 2012, 06:20:29 PM
Hi guys,
I also have been testing this system for over 10,000 spins,all recorded with the good old pencil and paper method.
In 400 sessions only 7 sessions have gone over 37 with the highest being 43 spins. 267 sessions have hit 3rd repeater within 24 spins. 133 have gone over 24 spins.

Yeah 

It seems to be a typical breakdown.  40+ is very rare. Usually 36 could be a good benchmark to make some kind of bet.

Robeenhuut

Quote from: insidebet  on July 11, 2012, 11:19:18 PM
Hello,

I have been testing Robbenhuut system and so far, so good.  I have tested it for several thousand of spins and it holds up very well.  I have a fixe limit of 1 500 units as a stop loss.  I have only encountered a loss on 4 occasions, while having well over 750 wins.  Do the math...

I have always said that, for a system/method to win, there had to be a reason for it.  It is hard to see why this would win.  The author said something about <<distribution>>.  I would like him to elaborate on that, if possible.

Regards.

Insidebet

Hola Insidebet

Whats your average win in progression?  Do you use one to stay in profit because if you keep adding numbers you must adjust it?  4 losses represent 6000u at your stop loss level. 

Regards

macduff

Hi guys,
There is a way to improve this system, wait for 3 repeaters. Then simply add all numbers that come in,this way you hit a win much earlier on the long running sessions also you win earlier on the shorter running sessions. You do show more of your bank a lot earlier but you also hit a win much earlier.
I have gone through 10,000 spins and only one of the long sessions was under threat.
Out of all the testing i have done this is without doubt the longest running winning run i have had.
The thing with this is there will be a run of say 20-22 unique numbers and this is the time you have to be tracking or it will destroy your bank roll. It was said earlier though,if your bank roll is 2000 and you have the khahoonas this is unbeatable.
  :thumbsup:

insidebet

Mac duff,

I made some calculations on your last post.  I am afraid you are wrong.  If you want to last 20 spins with unique numbers, you would need a lot more than 2 000 units.  After 16 spins, you are down 1749 units.  So, if you consider that your bets grow exponantially, to get to 20 spins, you would have to bet at lest 5 000 units on spin 20.  You need pretty big balls indeed.  Dont forget, you still have 17 numbers at this point to send you crawling down the exit.  I would hate to have to watch the ball spin around with so much at stake.

Insider

macduff

Quote from: insidebet  on July 15, 2012, 04:08:06 PM
Mac duff,

I made some calculations on your last post.  I am afraid you are wrong.  If you want to last 20 spins with unique numbers, you would need a lot more than 2 000 units.  After 16 spins, you are down 1749 units.  So, if you consider that your bets grow exponantially, to get to 20 spins, you would have to bet at lest 5 000 units on spin 20.  You need pretty big balls indeed.  Dont forget, you still have 17 numbers at this point to send you crawling down the exit.  I would hate to have to watch the ball spin around with so much at stake.

Insider
I do realise this, the most i have had to bet was 15 numbers this put my bank roll under pressure as it could have gone longer but it didnt(it resulted in a 20-30 unit loss)
The collection of numbers before you have a trigger are also included in a session,so you may well have a repeater before you start on 20 unique numbers.This would result in a win.
I will say again that this is the longest winning system i have tested,and would also say that the law of the third is a constant and is not a fallacy.
You are right though the stakes are very high for a small return when it does decide to test your resolve.  :scratch_ones_head:
Have been testing at dublin bet and smartlive with .50 base bet.

insidebet

Macduff,

Since you are interested in the law of third, I would like to bring your attention to an idea I posted a while back.  It was in Brainstorming, if I remember well, and it was called Law of third with a twist.  I don t remember getting any replies worthwile for an idea that semms quite logical at first.  Since it is rather simple and brief, I will repeat it here.

The law of third states that after 37 spins you should have approximately 24-25 unique numbers and 12-13 repeats.  Right?  This the <<norm>>.  Now what someone waited for the ratio to be  out of the norm and bet that the numbers WILL return to the norm.
Say there only 4 repeat after 37 spins.  Then you would be all the unique numbers until you get a more <<normal>> ratio, say 6 repeats- 25 unique.   Now on the opposite, say you have  8 repeats and 21unique after 37 spins, then you would bet on all the numbers that have not appeared at all unti you get to a more so-called normal ratio.

Does that makes sense to you?  If you look at the bell curve that law of third creates,  you will see that the ratio cannot stay outside the norm for very long.

Regards

Insider


insidebet

In 37 spins, roughly 12-13 numbers will not hot.  A much simpler way to apply the system would be to bet all unhit #s once there are 15 or more unhit.  The opposite is to bet all numbers that have hit once there 27 or more #s that have hit in the past 37 spins.

Insider

macduff

Hi insidebet,
Have just gone through 10.000 spins.Waiting for 3 repeaters and betting those until i have hit 24 spins,then bet all numbers that come in.The most numbers bet in 410 sessions is 15.
Hope you are still looking at this or can you see a better way to look at 3 repeaters in 37 as it is as constant as you will get on a roulette table.
Macduff  :thumbsup:

insidebet

Macduff,

Not sure I get this right.  You wait for three repeaters.  Why not start after one repeater?

Anyway wait for three, then bet on those three until spin 24 from the start?  Or 24 from the moment you get your third repeater?  If it is the first option, I imagine you will bet on all repeaters that come after the third repeater.  After spin 24 you back all #s that come, repeater or not.  All this with the appropriate progression that gives a net gain after a win, right?  The progression must be pretty steep if you don t hit  for a while.


Insider

insidebet

Just for fun I tested the wy I think you meant it.  On my tenth session I had to back 17 #s with an astronomical number of chips.  Oh well!!!

Insider

macduff

Hi insidebet,
In 410 sessions i have not bet more than 15 numbers(this may be luck).I dont bet on 1st repeater as most common hit is 3,4,5,6 for 3rd repeat. The idea betting all from 24th spin is that it is more common for a hit within 24 spins,24 spins are recorded from 1st spin of that session.
In all sessions if i do not bet all numbers after 24spins the most amount of repeat numbers bet is 14.
The thing with this is you know there will be a result,but it can be very costly waiting for a result  :( .Adding all numbers does improve system.If only one more tweak could be found.  :yahoo:

macduff

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