Great Square System

[Alfa_Street]

Hi all,

I was reading some old system on VIP and I found some very interesting low risk system, which promise a lot.   I just run a few test and it work quite nice, but needs a lot of test. Maybe we can fine tune this and make a great system. Ok here is the system.

GREAT SQUARE SYSTEM (System for 3 up to 7 numbers)

· System : for 3 up to 7 numbers.
· No progression needed. Only flat bets.
· Very great revenue.
· Very few tracking time , about 10-15 minutes.
· No way to lose.
· Suggested bankroll : 152 chips , you can also use less. Like 50 chips.

INTRODUCTION
As most professional gamblers know, the probability that any one of the 37
numbers will be drawn in a single spin is 2.7, or 1/37. The "law of the third"
tells us that in a complete cycle of 37 spins, there will be only 24 numbers
drawn one or more times, while the other 13 will not appear.
Negative probability is (36/37)37=0.3628 = 36.28%, and 37*0.3628=13.42. 13.42,
as you can see, is more likely 14 than 13 numbers.
To obtain more precision, years ago, we found a cycle of 39 spins instead of a
cycle of 37. Negative probability is (36/37)39=0.3435 or 34.35%, and
37*0.3435=12.7.
This "long cycle" gives us 13 numbers that will not come out. The following
system is based on the "cycle 39" (the Cycle 39 is applicable also for the OO
wheel).
It uses only numbers in frequency (normal or super), and excludes the absent
ones (joined probability distribution).

THE RULES
Every Game is a complete game - do not use the same Table for different games.
For every Game you need a total of 24 spins before to bet and others 5-12 spins
(in the worst cases) before winning. Before using the table below for the first
time it is important to make further copies of it, since one Table is used and
discarded for each game (this advice will avoid you to make errors while
recording spins).

The collecting zone:
We need to note a total of 24 spins.
We need only the numbers drawn 2 (and only 2) times.
In fact we will bet them immediately according on these rules:

The attack zone:
The number of spins to bet is calculated as follows: 36 /n, where n is number of
targets obtained. For example, if there are 4 targets then play should stop if
no win occurs by the 9th spin, if there are 5 targets play for 8 spins (36/5=7,2
that means 7, if there are 6 targets play for 6 spins, and so on.
Number of targets: Spins to bet/ action
Less than 3 Do not bet

3 12
4 9
5 7
6 6
7 5

More than 7 Do not bet
Usually you will bet 4 or 5 number (the 80% of the times) but sometimes you can
also obtain 6-7 or 3 numbers to bet. Remember that you must never bet less than
3 number or more than 7 numbers if they happen. In this (very rare) case start a
new game.

The second attack chance:
In the most numbers of games you will win before the end of the attack zone. In
this case is possible to continue betting on the remaining numbers.
You must only remember that you don't have to continue betting after the end of
the attack zone.

You don't have to continue to play if the numbers to bet are less than 3, in
fact if you are playing a game and after 24 spins (collecting zone) you obtain 3
numbers to bet for 12 successive spins (attack zone), if you win after 3 spins
you remain with only 2 numbers bet, in this case you can't use the second
chance.

Instead, if you are playing another game and after the collecting zone you
obtain 6 numbers to bet and you win for the first time at the second spin (spin
number 26 from the beginning of the game), you can use the second chance for: 7-
2=5 successive spins (7 because we are only play the remaining 5 numbers).
Number of targets: Spins to bet/ action Second chance
Less than 3 Do not bet -

3 12 Not allowed
4 9 12-X
5 7 9-X
6 6 7-X
7 5 6-X

More than 7 Do not bet -
Where X is the spins of the attack zone when you won the first time

EXAMPLES
3,6,14,2,27,20,4,2,17,6,11,31,20,34,1,31,13,25,3,17,31,5,5,7 (end of first 24
spins) 15,20,18,15,17 (theoretical attack zone spins)
In this case after the first 24 spins we have 6 numers to bet (2,3,5,6,17,20)
for a maximum of 6 spins. At the second spin, we win with the number 20!, We
want to continue with the second chance, we bet only 5 number (2,3,5,6,17) for
7-2=5 successive spins and we will win again after 3 spins! (at the 29 spin from
the beginning of the game).


Coments from member Paperclip:

Hi me again

If you play the law of the third like the stock market ........

You can chart all the spins of Humburg and find that it's a winner at the end . You will never lose on this one . There is just one thing , i found with playing like this that some times you can sit and wait for a while until it come up from negative to positive again , but its worth the wait . It always go up and even out .

When people ask me about the The law of the third my anser usualy is : It's the perfect system , it havent failed in 300 years , why should it now .

The stock market aproach is only one of many ways i found to beat the game .

With this stock market aproach i can still add penny stocks , like i call it . Where you only play 2 or 3 numbers for a certain amount of time when it qaulify , using as little as 36 units , never lose just cash in . and the great thing about this one is that u can double that 36 units every 37 or 38 spins . So in about 8 hours play u can easily have about 800 units for the investment of 36 units .

For 300 years every one is looking at the shows becuase it apear more then the no show's and they still lose . Pascal make it clear it's better to risk one to gain two than to risk two and gain one and still lose .

What is a no show ? a number that did not apear in the last 37 spins . If it does apear it's then a show , but what happen next , u forget about that no show that just apear . That no show have a good chance to apear 2 times in the next 37 spins but you ignore it , If a number did'nt apaer for 74 spin it have a very good chance to apear 3 times in the next 37 spins , some time it do and some times it dont . Now if you can find a way to get to know when a no show or sleeper will apear again then u can gain 200% profit , investing only 36 units . That is every 37 spins after the first 74 spins . I does not always produce 200% profit but u have the ability to never lose your 36 units and gain a hell of alot more then u are losing now . The worst 37 spins was gaining 50 % on my 36 units . The most i gained playing the penny stock aproach in 37 spins was 1000 % . That was playing only 3 numbers for 37 spins .

I tried the clocking the wheel and compare it with my penny stock aproach and the penny stock aproach made 10 times more money then clocking the wheel . Now why chart a 1000 spins when u can chart only 74 spins and get better results charting only 74 spins .

Try it , it's there , you'll be seprised what you'll find between the lines . It's been there for more then 300 years .


After studieing the roulette wheel for 3 years i came up with 5 systems to beat the wheel , and i meen realy hit them hard .

That all include :
1 . The human behavier .
2 . Breaking up the wheel in 1000 pieces , and believe me there are 1000 .
3 . Taking the law of the third and chart 20 diffrent ways for 1000's of spins by hand .
4 .The dealers and their behavier .
5 . Positional roulette .
6 . Reading everything about the inventor Blaise pascal and his father Etienne Pascal .

There are still more but the aboth is just to give you an idea what i was doing for the past 3 years .

Now after all this , most people respons is that i'm crazy , and most people realy think i'm not all up there . But the results show's that my theorys do work .

Here is the link to VIP, where this was discussed.
nolinks://gambling.projectsydney.com/viewtopic.php?t=434&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Cheers

[addonai]

Thanks Alfa for posting this system . i shall test it and see the results.

Best regards

[Alfa_Street]

Thanks Alfa for posting this system . i shall test it and see the results.

Best regards

Hi Nedal,

It is good to test a few session of 24 spins together, because not all sessions are winners. I was thinking to add soft step ladder progression. In few test I have a feeling that only 3 numbers are the most dangerus to play. When I had 4 - 5 numbers I ussualy hit in attack zone.

Good testing

Cheers

[hermes]

I read this system somewhere long time ago and tested a little. Yes, the 3 are problem ( they need more spins to come but they come) but we can start with 4 and disregard the game if only 3 doubles come. We can chart on 2 tables simultaneously.
Hermes

[lucky_strike]

Nice post. I recognize this strategy. Have some oldies that are similar to this one.

I will run a short test for fun and post it here.

[Jakkalsdraai]

Hi Alfa Street,

Thanx for the post. Quite interesting. I'll give it a go. On the same post where you read it, did you see the rest of those posts. The one guy suggested if you took the first seven spins of the 37 cycle wait until 24 spins are complete (including the first 7), then play those 1st seven straight up. So if the following numbers are spun. 3,4,23,12,6,33,12,14,17,0,23,33,30,3,21,12,33,14,19,15,20,22,1,27.
Now bet 3,4,23,12,6,33,14 (14 because 12 came up twice so the last 12 didn't count). This worked quite well when I tested. I do admit though that I haven't tested thoroughly enough at all. Say 200 spins. (I'm dumb! I work by hand not excel! it's like...I am dumb but I can weld!) In those 200 spins I had good results though.

Cheers guys!  [smiley=beer.gif]
Jakkalsdraai

P.S. We have a labourer who works for us who is a Rastafarian. He smokes weed everyday of his life and then some. So I asked him:"Ferdi, why do you smoke weed?" So he answers:"No sir, it gives me the most incredible ideas and visions." So I asked him what these ideas and visions were. He answered:" ...mmm I cannot remember sir..."

[Alfa_Street]

Hi Alfa Street,

Thanx for the post. Quite interesting. I'll give it a go. On the same post where you read it, did you see the rest of those posts. The one guy suggested if you took the first seven spins of the 37 cycle wait until 24 spins are complete (including the first 7), then play those 1st seven straight up. So if the following numbers are spun. 3,4,23,12,6,33,12,14,17,0,23,33,30,3,21,12,33,14,19,15,20,22,1,27.
Now bet 3,4,23,12,6,33,14 (14 because 12 came up twice so the last 12 didn't count). This worked quite well when I tested. I do admit though that I haven't tested thoroughly enough at all. Say 200 spins. (I'm dumb! I work by hand not excel! it's like...I am dumb but I can weld!) In those 200 spins I had good results though.

Cheers guys!  [smiley=beer.gif]
Jakkalsdraai

P.S. We have a labourer who works for us who is a Rastafarian. He smokes weed everyday of his life and then some. So I asked him:"Ferdi, why do you smoke weed?" So he answers:"No sir, it gives me the most incredible ideas and visions." So I asked him what these ideas and visions were. He answered:" ...mmm I cannot remember sir..."

Hi Jakkalsdraai,

Thanks for pointing that out. I tested this second aproach and it work much better then original one, but I think we should play with soft progression until first win come out and then chart again. Of course it will fail in long term, but I like the simple idea with no complicated selection and low risk (only seven numbers). If I would play in touch screen airball machines I even dont need to chart because ussualy these tables shows last 24 spins. I will make excel simulator in next few days and I will posted here on forum for all members.

P.S. I love to smoke a good weed sometimes and it gives me great ideas too. But I must write on paper, beacause I ussualy forget it, like Ferdy said.

Cheers

[Jakkalsdraai]

  Nice...

I've only tried them spacecakes once Mate! Couldn't move me legs ya know! [smiley=shocked.gif] Hated that...also didn't go well with alot o' beer. (green fever) And I really like beer... So that was it!

Now the seven number thing. Yes I agree with a slight progression. My testing has showed though that 2-3 wins before re-tracking. What do you think of that?  

Cheers Mate! [smiley=beer.gif]
Jakkalsdraai

[Jakkalsdraai]

Hey Alpha,

Actually played your corner system with some of my previous results the way explained in your post but didn't continue betting. When I had a win I stop and tracked again. So here is my few results. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Using R50 chips (Sout African Rands), I'm not going to post all the previous numbers used to obtain the numbers for playing. Only the numbers spun after my selections.

First set after 24 numbers: 10,26,28,23

Spin                Loose               Win                 Nett Win
36                  -R200                 -                       -
36                  -R200                 -                       -
29                  -R200                 -                       -
4                    -R200                -                        -
26                  -R200                R1800                R 800

Track Again   New Set 26,8,33,29,21,36,34

14                  -R350                -                        -
36                  -R350                R1800                R1100

Track again   New Set 24,20,2,26,3,25

34                  -R300                -                        -
19                  -R300                -                        -
2                    -R300               R1800                 R 900

Track Again   New Set 34,19,27,10,4

32                  -R250                -                        -
19                  -R250               R1800                 R1300

So Nett Profit of   R4100 ......... (quick count = 108 spins) Not Bad At All!!!!!!!!! [smiley=tekst-toppie.gif] Will do excessive testing of course but so far it works.  [smiley=thumbup.gif]Remember that when a number hits, the very next number I'll track again for 24 numbers. All flat betting as well! Chip value is high though!

Cheers Mate! [smiley=beer.gif]
Jakkalsdraai

[Alfa_Street]

Now the seven number thing. Yes I agree with a slight progression. My testing has showed though that 2-3 wins before re-tracking. What do you think of that?  

How many spins did you tested? In my test two wins are ussualy and sometimes three or one, but sometimes dont hit at all and in
two session can be a long space betwen two wins, so I think one hit would be more safe to play. I know I will win less playing like this, but remember, some numbers can sleep a long time and we only have 7 spins window and then we must change a bet. I think the target of 30-50 units in 2-3 sessions would be quite nice. More testing would be needing to see how many session in the road can lose. Then we can make a good strategy and money managment.

It is been a long time since I play like these, because the low of third lose in long term.I like these one, because a low risk and low bankroll to play.

Did you test these on different tables? Sometimes the results can be very different from table to table.
What spin window are you using? I tested only with 7 spin window. We should test on 5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12 spin windows. With spin window I mean only the time when we bet the first 7 numbers from 24 spin cycle.

Cheers

[bobbybobby]

this system has been forgotten I guess. but still works quite well :-)

anyone any comments?  :-)   (i tried on real money for 100 spins, positive 20 units) hehe.



BobbyBobby

[rouletteplay]

I have just been playing this system for the past hour with great results. Has anybody managed to code it into Rx for more extensive testing? I would be interested to see how it performs in the long run

[bobbybobby]

hi rouletteplay, what is your starting bankroll, and how many spins you played and your resulting bankroll is?

:-)

thanks for sharing results. 


BobbyBobby

[JHM]

Another question.

You have 5 numbers that come up twice after 24 spins. Lets say 2,4,16,32,35

You start betting nr's 2,4,16,32,35

Nr. 6 = -5
Nr. 7 = -5 (total -10)
Nr. 7 = -5 (total -15)

Now nr 7 has come up twice to, should you add this to your bet selection and raise to 6 numbers?

[nireaper]

just posted rx code for this system in download area -

seems to make short gains but falls over too frequently. Could be adjusted with longer progression but is that just going to delay the inevitable.

Any problems with code let me know.

nireaper.

[nireaper]

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