Thomas Grant Scam

[Number Six]

The roulette grail wins more than it loses. Your bot is a self-confessed non-grail, therefore it loses more than it wins, correct? I can't see how your "strategies" are proper roulette strategies when you have demonstrated ignorance on what a strategy actually is. You think the difference between a system and a strategy is the spelling. You are wrong. Your bot has rules coded into it, meaning it implements a mechanical system. And now your bot will murder live wheels? How? Can we assume that you are one of the forum's most skilled and knowledgeable advantage players? That you have mastered techniques to give you a physical edge? I saw a screenshot with a "hot sectors system". Tell me about the hot sectors. How does the bot define a hot sector, what logic does it have for defining a hot sector and how does it attack a hot sector? Or is it all a secret we have to pay $350 to be made privy to?

[TwoCatSam]

"OK, I think it is irresponsible for ANY moderator to associate with a system seller.", said Number Six.


I was co-administrator and I resigned that position.  Would you feel better if I resigned as moderator?  Then you ask Lanky as I already have! 

I knew nothing of bots until Victor asked me to test this thing.  I said I would report honestly as I have done.  I am currently down about 165 Euro.  You have stated you believe my loss, yet you continue to rave against this bot.  Frankly, I don't know what you're looking for in this forum.  If Lanky wants he can give you my old position and you can mute me so I can't post.

6, here's the way it shakes out.  If I have to choose between this forum and the bot, there will be no choice:  I will leave this mess in a heartbeat.  As far as I know no one has forced you to buy this bot nor have I read any complaints from any users saying they were scammed.  Link me to one post if you can, for I have truly missed it.

What is happening with this bot is state of the art, cutting edge and all that.  It is not for me to say what's up; Tiago or Matt can do that if they wish.  I will say this:  You might be surprised what this bot has proven over a million spins.  Is it perfect?  No.  Is it finished?  No!  How archaic is a Walkman or Discman compared to an Ipod?

This forum is being broken three ways:  There's the guys who are honestly trying to learn and devise ways to play.  There's the bot users.  Lastly, there's the guys who can do anything--damn near walk on water--but they can't show you. 

The old adage "Time is Money" is so true.  When you consider the people who post hints, play "I've Got a Secret" and send people on wild goose chases vs the people who sell bots for money, who is most at fault?  I say the former!  How many people have spent valuable time away from their families looking for something that just isn't there but some phony says it is, so they keep looking.  After the wife and kids are gone, they keep looking.  They would probably trade places with the guy who spent money on a bot in a heartbeat.

From now on, don't pull any punches with me.  If you think I'm a lying thief, just say it.  I will work hard at trying to care less, but I probably won't be able to.  By the way, that goes for anyone else, too.  Do you get the idea I just really don't care?

Sam

[Spike]

A bot is only as good as the system its playing. Its nothing without the system you give it. IT doesn't win or lose. the SYSTEM wins or loses. So saying you win huge with a bot is stupid, its the system that wins. And NO system beats roulette, so where does leave you? With scammers and liars.

[thomasgrant]

NO system beats roulette

Well, this may be true.
If so, then what do you use to play roulette.?
How successful have you been?
What do you do when play roulette?
All I see is a great deal of criticism.
And no proof to back it up.
Show me the money.
Can you?
I dare you to.
In other words.
Put up. Or shut up.

[Spike]

If so, then what do you use to play roulette>>

I use a non-mechanical method called educated guessing. Its unprogrammable, it relies on experience and practice.

[thomasgrant]

educated guessing

educated guessing vs RNG or Live Casinos.

Hmmm, ok, that sounds fantastic.
Your not basing it on any previous spins.
Or any previous systems, methods, or anything else.
Looks like your playing the monkey stock market method.
Or the throw the dart at the board while blindfolded.
Well if that works for you. Keep it up.
Must be if your doing so well with it.

[Spike]

Your not basing it on any previous spins.>>

I'm not? If you say so. Don't hurt your brain thinking about it, believe me, its over your head..

[iboba]

I find it remarkable how Grant is the only person on the face of the earth who is using bots and winning. Every bot he uses, he wins.>>>

He's a scammer, of course he's going to say anything he needs to say to sell his crap. These people disgust me..

And you disqust me,Spike.It's not you that are talking,but you speak
in somebodys else name/You well know "WHO"/maybe you think
you will get a "FAMOUS" bet from him.........Iboba

[Skrizy]

@iboba

You don't need anything from anyone to notice this is a scam. What spike is trying to do is question these scammers. I compare them with pickpocketters, They are a plague! For anyone with a little bit of intelligence, google the name of the bot and read the website, look at the 'evidence' and u will see. Its the same as any other scam site. Iboba the fact that u are frustrated with spike is that he gets complimented and not u. The fact that you're name is published on the green website in a bad way means that u didn't read it or didn't listen. The fact that u defend these crooks, speaks for itself...

Kind Regards,
Skrizy.

[iboba]

@iboba

You don't need anything from anyone to notice this is a scam. What spike is trying to do is question these scammers. I compare them with pickpocketters, They are a plague! For anyone with a little bit of intelligence, google the name of the bot and read the website, look at the 'evidence' and u will see. Its the same as any other scam site. Iboba the fact that u are frustrated with spike is that he gets complimented and not u. The fact that you're name is published on the green website in a bad way means that u didn't read it or didn't listen. The fact that u defend these crooks, speaks for itself...

Kind Regards,
Skrizy.

Everyone to it's own.I don't defend nobody,but to accuse someone as a scam,
without any proof/where are the scammed ones??/---And who gives S***T for any green pages
---After all, with whos rights is my name there???---He is the greatest conman arround,as he is
    scamming young people brains in here,let alone his bet is the greatest scamm ever.....there is a
    reason for it......and that's a FACT...............................Iboba

[Skrizy]

Now u are accusing someone of scamming without any proof. The scammed ones have allready reply'd, again u fail to read and listen.

Kind Regards,
Skrizy

[iboba]

Now u are accusing someone of scamming without any proof. The scammed ones have allready reply'd, again u fail to read and listen.

Kind Regards,
Skrizy

Well in that case,it's still none of your bussines.You better worry about your
green pages.Back door???I have more knowledge in my toe,then all of your
imaginary trustees together with yourself.Amen................Iboba

[thomasgrant]

iboba, don't worry about some of these people that try to accuse me of scaming someone.
They are yet to produce one iota of evidence to prove their claims.
Having a link on a website is not classed as evidence.
Because I have already stated several times.
That yes, I promote Roulette Bot Pro on my website.
So what, big deal. Has anyone that purchased it, feel like they got ripped of?
If so. There is a money back guarantee.
As for Super Roulette.
Again, nowhere on any of my post or on my own website does it have a link for Super Roulette.
TwoCat told me off, for adding my website as a link in my signature.
So I removed it from my signature.
All these fools are doing is sending more traffic to my website.
And I would like to thank them all for doing so.
Keep up the great work.
Keep telling people how I am scammer.
Makes me so happy.
Increase in sales and sign ups since this topic was started.
Thanks again Skizzy.

[Spike]

They are yet to produce one iota of evidence to prove their claims.>>>

Evidence? All we have is evidence. There is NO system that beats roulette consistantly, yet you have somehow magically programmed a robot with one? Its utter bullsh--.

Increase in sales and sign ups since this topic was started.>>

See people? Thats all these scammers care about, more sales. Wise up, don't feed the fat assed scammers..

[thomasgrant]

Wise up, don't feed the fat assed scammers..

I'm not fat, just big boned. (Eric Cartman/South Park)

Keep feeding, keep feeding.
We need more gullible people.
The more the merrier.
My site needs even more traffic.

Thanks Spike.
You have done me a great service.

[thomasgrant]

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