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Title: Does RNG spot your bet?
Post by: JHM on August 20, 2008, 05:24:55 PM
Let say you play RNG. Does the RNG only calculates numbers or does the program goes beyond. When you place a large bet, the RNG reads your bet and pick a loosing number?

Or does is just random generate without looking the bets?
Title: Re: Does RNG spot your bet?
Post by: bjb007 on August 20, 2008, 11:06:51 PM
This is from Peter on rouletteforum.net.
He works for a company with roulette machines.
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No they are not "fixed".  For a start why would they need
to "fix" a mathematically perfect game in the first place?

This is how they work.  A third party independent company
broadcasts random numbers every second. This company
has no connection to either the bookmaker or global draw
or leisure link the two providers of FOBS ( fixed odds betting terminals)
otherwise known as the roulette machines.

As soon as somebody presses the spin button a number
is then grabbed via a satellite and displayed on the machine.
The spinning of the wheel is purely visual as the number is
known the moment the button is pressed.
For proof of this play two machines at once and press
start at the same time!

Finally the machine has no uplink so therefore has no
possible way to communicate with anything or anybody
regarding where the player has placed their chips.
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If on-line casinos work this way it would explain
why you'd get different numbers if you played on
two computers at the same time.
Title: Re: Does RNG spot your bet?
Post by: JHM on August 21, 2008, 12:25:23 PM
Oke that's nice to read. But I guess we'll never find out, maybe it's a casino owner who's posting  ;)
Title: Re: Does RNG spot your bet?
Post by: TwoCatSam on August 21, 2008, 12:35:45 PM
Someone tell me this.......

There was a time when you could get six people together and play a "multi-player" game and all get the same number.  I have never been able to join a multi-player game and I don't think they even have them anymore.  Do they?

JHM, you could be right.

I thought of this:  Why "grab" a number off a satellite?  The Playtech software could have a TRNG built in, could it not.  I mean, there's a free one at Random.org.  Truth is, we don't "know" anything.

What if I took $500 of my own money and bet every number every time but zero.  Surely the money would last a while, since I should only lose $1 on every spin except when the zero hits.  The zero should hit at the rate of 2.7%.  What if my money lasted 200 spins?

No, this won't work either.  Their computer would know exactly what you are doing and they would surely make the zero hit at 2.7%.

Sam
Title: Re: Does RNG spot your bet?
Post by: bjb007 on August 24, 2008, 08:20:14 PM
As I said in a previous post you can go to
onlinecasino.com and on the menu for
European Roulette you'll find an option
for "Private Group".

They use Playtech software.
Title: Re: Does RNG spot your bet?
Post by: Mr J on August 24, 2008, 11:12:48 PM
I have to ask this in terms of the original question >>> Are you referring to RNG as far as practice mode?  Ken
Title: Re: Does RNG spot your bet?
Post by: Talesman on August 24, 2008, 11:55:41 PM

An RNG is just that.  In a slot machine, VP machine, etal it is a stand-alone chip that constantly spews out numbers as long as the machine has electricity fed to it.  It works 24/7/365 regardless of whether anyone is playing it or not.

Last I looked, the minimum it could generate, by LAW, was 200 numbers or number sets per second.  Some are programmed to do more.

So if you see a full-jackpot slot machine winner that person had to push the button at the precise nano-second to get that win.

For on-line casinos I doubt anything changes.  The RNG works 24/7/365.

It is all the adjunct software that you have to worry about.


Title: Re: Does RNG spot your bet?
Post by: Mr J on August 26, 2008, 01:58:28 AM
In reference to my question. As far as testing goes, I use a notebook to keep track of my bets. That way, the computer (RNG) has no idea what I'm doing.  Ken