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Is This the Holy Grail, or a Huge Waste of Time System - Help!

Started by rjeaton1, May 17, 2009, 02:51:02 AM

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Herb


rjeaton1

I just crashed my computer trying to export my spin results into an .xls file (had wayyyy to many applications open, haha).  Anyway, I will be posting the intricate details of the system tomorrow.  I am also asking someone to upload a 100,000 spin or more data set (as I don't have any data set that large, and so the forum can verify it).  

Also, I am working on one last improvement (hopefully it's an improvement anyway, we'll see).  That's the reason for my waiting to post the details.  The improvements will be - on a loss (if one ever occurs) you lose less than you would currently on a loss.  Second improvement - you would bet slightly more often.  Not much, but a little.

In the meantime, if anybody cares to actually read this whole thread, please respond with some feedback on the questions I have asked you as a forum to help me answer.  Thanks again everybody, you guys are a super-valuable resource for this wonderful hobby I love (coughaddictioncough) haha.

Herb

I've read the thread, but you don't explain what you're doing.

All I see are graphs.


Homeito

Hello,

RJ...
Quote from: rjeaton1 on May 17, 2009, 04:07:04 AM
I am also asking someone to upload a 100,000 spin or more data set

In the Actuals/Permanenzes section I have uploaded a file of 700,000+ spins from Wiesbaden Table 3.
If you need it in another fornat I can fix that.

BTW:
The first thing I do when I see this kind of result is to check the code and check it again.
Or even better: I let some one else check it.
Are you 100% sure that your program is 100% correct?


Best regards,
Homeito Bemek

rjeaton1

Quote from: Homeito on May 17, 2009, 04:25:44 AM
Hello,

RJ...
In the Actuals/Permanenzes section I have uploaded a file of 700,000+ spins from Wiesbaden Table 3.
If you need it in another fornat I can fix that.

BTW:
The first thing I do when I see this kind of result is to check the code and check it again.
Or even better: I let some one else check it.
Are you 100% sure that your program is 100% correct?


Best regards,
Homeito Bemek

I am 110% sure it's correct...in fact, 1000%.  As I said I will be sharing the intricate details with everybody tomorrow (as well as the .dgt file) as soon as I finish making a couple of adjustments (and then testing if they were necessary adjustments).  I have just downloaded the spins you uploaded and am going to see if I can import them into RXtreme.  Thanks Homeito!

rjeaton1

@Homeito (or anyone actually)  I need some help.  I can only import spins into RXtreme when they are in the following format:
1
27
18
36
0
20
19

Not this format: 1,27,18,36,0,20,19  So the spins I downloaded in the members only section do not going into RXtreme (and reorganizing 700,000 numbers when you don't know a quick way to do it is just too painstaking a task)

So, if someone knows a quick way to reorganize those numbers into one column, or has a different set of spins (at least 100,000) please let me know.

Innovcon

Ok, I will respond to your specific question with a little history.   A few years ago I got into botting poker.   I ran a bot that won 1BB per table hour played.   I was playing at the $. 25-$. 50 tables at the time.   So I was winning $. 50 per table per hour.   I could not get the bot to win at a greater level.   So I had the bot modified to play 4 tables at once.   Four was the maximum that a 1600x1200 screen would accomidate.   All tables needed to be visable at all times for the bot to perform properly.   So at that point I was up to $2 per hour.   I then created 2 additional poker accounts (wife and son).   At that point I was able to run each account 8 hrs a day and get a total of 24 hrs a day played.   Give or take about 30-45 minutes a day used to switch accounts.

So bottom line was I was netting about $50 per day running my bot.   Add about an additional $20 per day in rakeback and the occasional site bonus and I was clearing around $500-$600 a week.

I am not really sure how this may or may not translate into your roulette botting but hopefully it gives you something to think about.

-SC

Homeito

Hello,

RJ...
Quote from: rjeaton1 on May 17, 2009, 04:43:37 AM
@Homeito (or anyone actually)  I need some help.  I can only import spins into RXtreme when they are in the following format:
1
27
18
36
0
20
19

Not this format: 1,27,18,36,0,20,19  So the spins I downloaded in the members only section do not going into RXtreme (and reorganizing 700,000 numbers when you don't know a quick way to do it is just too painstaking a task)

So, if someone knows a quick way to reorganize those numbers into one column, or has a different set of spins (at least 100,000) please let me know.

It will be done in within a little time.


Best regards,
Homeito Bemek

rjeaton1

Quote from: Homeito on May 17, 2009, 04:49:57 AM
Hello,

RJ...
It will be done in within a little time.


Best regards,
Homeito Bemek

That's excellent Homeito, thanks!  I've download probably six or seven files full of spins, all of which were in the wrong format.  That's great, thanks again.

rjeaton1

Quote from: Innovcon on May 17, 2009, 04:43:59 AM
Ok, I will respond to your specific question with a little history.   A few years ago I got into botting poker.   I ran a bot that won 1BB per table hour played.   I was playing at the $. 25-$. 50 tables at the time.   So I was winning $. 50 per table per hour.   I could not get the bot to win at a greater level.   So I had the bot modified to play 4 tables at once.   Four was the maximum that a 1600x1200 screen would accomidate.   All tables needed to be visable at all times for the bot to perform properly.   So at that point I was up to $2 per hour.   I then created 2 additional poker accounts (wife and son).   At that point I was able to run each account 8 hrs a day and get a total of 24 hrs a day played.   Give or take about 30-45 minutes a day used to switch accounts.

So bottom line was I was netting about $50 per day running my bot.   Add about an additional $20 per day in rakeback and the occasional site bonus and I was clearing around $500-$600 a week.

I am not really sure how this may or may not translate into your roulette botting but hopefully it gives you something to think about.

-SC


This is just the kind of input I was looking for Innovcon, thanks!  I'm in the process of looking around the internet (currently at Rent-A-Coder(.com)) for somebody to code a bot that will autoplay Go Casino, Online Vegas & Golden Casino (they're the fastest casinos I know of in terms of spin speed, and they're all on the same technology platform).  I will keep you guys posted on this as well.

In the meantime, anybody else have any input?  Is this good news, or am I setting myself up for heartbreak?

Is 175,000 spins enough of a test to see that a system wins long term?

Homeito

Hello,

RJ...

The spins are here:
nolinks://vlsroulette.com/downloads/?sa=view;id=379

The spins are now Return (CrLf) separated and the file looks like this:

23
1
25
4
16
17
19
0
15
17
15



Best regards,
Homeito Bemek

rjeaton1

Quote from: Homeito on May 17, 2009, 05:05:06 AM
Hello,

RJ...

The spins are here:
nolinks://vlsroulette.com/downloads/?sa=view;id=379

The spins are now Return (CrLf) separated and the file looks like this:

23
1
25
4
16
17
19
0
15
17
15



Best regards,
Homeito Bemek

You're officially the man Homeito.  :thumbsup: I will start making the video for everybody right now!

rjeaton1

Hey there Homeito, the format was perfect (it imported exactly as it should have).  I am currently making the video for everybody as I am typing this (in fact, what will be really strange is when you watch the video you'll see me typing this, ha, kind of weird.  I really need...some sleep.)

Just wanted to give you all a heads up, since I am recording my screen (takes up a lot of computer resources) at the same time as RXtreme is open, the spins are going slower than they normally do.  So the video all in all may be kind of large but it'll be here should you choose to want to see it.

As soon as I have it for you guys I will post it.  Until then, I hope to hear some more of your thoughts.

viper5

as u told above its a system depented on maths-possibilities(i know my system lol)

and i will tell u 1 more eime :shout: that it is a looser!!!!!maby a winner BUT can u risk IT?????    well...........i don"t

and if this system needs 5000 chips BR then its not a system!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

save ur time mate...nothing new here

same thing all over...casino edje

cabbage

Quote from: viper5 on May 17, 2009, 07:55:11 AM
as u told above its a system depented on maths-possibilities(I know my system lol)

and I will tell u 1 more eime :shout: that it is a loser!!!!!maby a winner BUT can u risk IT?????    well...........I don"t

and if this system needs 5000 chips BR then its not a system!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

save ur time mate...nothing new here

same thing all over...casino edje

I hope for you Rjeaction its a winner because I like your efforts  :good:

Just a bit worried though because...

IF VIPER CAN'T DO IT ....IT CANT BE DONE!!!

:laugh:

cabbage

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