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Title: EC - Flat-Betting: too early and we catch it
Post by: winkel on September 22, 2009, 02:17:01 PM
Hi guys,

we all know, that we don´t know what will happen.

But we can expect that one colour (or E/O, H/L) will be ahead at one  point in a short number of spins.

we know
1 row of 5 R (or B)
will give us
2 rows of 4
4 of 3
8 of 2
16 singles

luckily they don´t appear in that math-order they mix up

What we bet on is to catch the 5-in-a-row before all other possibilities will be there.

R bet next spin on R
R +1 nexst spin on R
R +2 next spin on R
R +3 next spin on R
B +2 and stop We caught an 4-in-a-row which was "much to early!"
B
B
B
B
R
R
B
B
B
B
R
O
R
R
R
B
B
R
O
R
B
R
R
B
R
R
B
B
R
R
B
B
B
B
B


spins from Wiesbaden today
Title: Re: EC - Flat-Betting: too early and we catch it
Post by: lucky_strike on September 22, 2009, 07:13:00 PM

Do you have any statistics?

LS
Title: Re: EC - Flat-Betting: too early and we catch it
Post by: winkel on September 22, 2009, 07:47:57 PM
No, not yet.

It is actually a bet on the last spin. But the difference is to find and stop after an "too early row"
As long as there are short rows of each col you are just equal. One long row gives you the win

br
winkel
Title: Re: EC - Flat-Betting: too early and we catch it
Post by: lucky_strike on September 23, 2009, 02:56:41 AM
a) Do you aim to win more then +1 unit for one attack ?
b) If not, then what kind of ride would you use, march, and how much to gain ?
c) For how many attampts would you try to capture an event, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, and so on or is there an variation ?
c) If there is some-thing above that you will use then how will you measuring it ?

LS
Title: Re: EC - Flat-Betting: too early and we catch it
Post by: bene126 on November 11, 2009, 01:16:44 PM
Hi winkel.Are you testing this?
Title: Re: EC - Flat-Betting: too early and we catch it
Post by: winkel on November 11, 2009, 02:21:24 PM
No I´m not testing, I´m playing it.

To the questions of Lucky (sorry I didn´t notice them earlier):

a) Do you aim to win more then +1 unit for one attack ?
b) If not, then what kind of ride would you use, march, and how much to gain ?
c) For how many attampts would you try to capture an event, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, and so on or is there an variation ?
c) If there is some-thing above that you will use then how will you measuring it ?

-a) I´m betting til the row stops and hope that my win is higher than 1 unit
-b) It is just betting on the last spin, but when I detect a intermittendig streak I follow it till it stops
-c) I stop after I caught "one too early long row" I wouldn´t recommend more than 1 attack
-d) I always start with that when I´m waiting for crossings, betting minimum stakes, there is always one row showing up too early  :laugh:

br
winkel
Title: Re: EC - Flat-Betting: too early and we catch it
Post by: bene126 on November 11, 2009, 04:19:00 PM
And how long are you playing it?Can you give me some example?
Title: Re: EC - Flat-Betting: too early and we catch it
Post by: winkel on November 11, 2009, 04:25:33 PM
Till I caught the first too long row.

Or what do you mean?

br
winkel
Title: Re: EC - Flat-Betting: too early and we catch it
Post by: winkel on November 11, 2009, 04:32:30 PM
Example today Wiesbaden Table 3

B bet B
B +1 bet B
R +-0 bet R
B -1 bet B
R -2 bet R as alsways changing follow change bet B
B -1 bet R
R +-0 bet B
0 -1 still bet B
B +-0 bet R
R +1 bet B
R +-0 changing stopped follow R and bet R
R +1 bet R
R +2 bet R
R +3 bet R
B +2 and stop because 5 is tghe too long row we expected.


Title: Re: EC - Flat-Betting: too early and we catch it
Post by: bene126 on November 11, 2009, 04:38:09 PM
Quote from: Winkel on November 11, 2009, 04:25:33 PM
Till I caught the first too long row.

Or what do you mean?

br
winkel

I mean how much months are you playing this sytstem?
Title: Re: EC - Flat-Betting: too early and we catch it
Post by: bene126 on November 11, 2009, 04:56:01 PM

B bet B
B +1 bet B
R +-0 bet R
B -1 bet B
R -2 bet R as alsways changing follow change bet B   => why you here B? because is -2?
B -1 bet R   -----------
R +-0 bet B              l
0 -1 still bet B          l-----in this five spins you bet on opposite color
B +-0 bet R              l
R +1 bet B------------l
R +-0 changing stopped follow R and bet R   => and here when the R came second spin you bet on R
R +1 bet R   -------
R +2 bet R            l  ----- and here you follow  R
R +3 bet R   -------l
B +2 and stop because 5 is tghe too long row we expected.

So.We follow color and when we will have -2 we changed color and will bet on opposite color ever spin but when we will have for example RBRBB on next spins we will follow color.



Title: Re: EC - Flat-Betting: too early and we catch it
Post by: winkel on November 11, 2009, 05:21:58 PM
another example

todays table 7

R bet R
R +1 bet R
R +2 bet R (or stop)
B +1 bet B
R +-0 bet R
B -1 changing bet change bet R
B -2 change stopped bet B
B -1 bet B
B 0 bet B
B +1 bet B
B +2 bet B
B +3 bet B
0 +2 row stopped
Title: Re: EC - Flat-Betting: too early and we catch it
Post by: winkel on November 11, 2009, 05:24:55 PM
table 9

B BET B
R -1 bet R
B -2 bet B
B -1 bet B
B 0 bet B
B +1 bet B
R 0 row stopped
Title: Re: EC - Flat-Betting: too early and we catch it
Post by: bene126 on November 11, 2009, 05:29:01 PM
Can you tell me when we change bet ?
Title: Re: EC - Flat-Betting: too early and we catch it
Post by: winkel on November 11, 2009, 05:34:37 PM
Quote from: bene126 on November 11, 2009, 05:29:01 PM
Can you tell me when we change bet ?

when you detect a changing of Chance
Title: Re: EC - Flat-Betting: too early and we catch it
Post by: bene126 on November 11, 2009, 05:38:41 PM
And from what we can detect a changing of Chance?
Title: Re: EC - Flat-Betting: too early and we catch it
Post by: winkel on November 11, 2009, 06:08:05 PM
Quote from: bene126 on November 11, 2009, 05:38:41 PM
And from what we can detect a changing of Chance?

When it´s changing?

RBRB is changing or not?

br
winkel
Title: Re: EC - Flat-Betting: too early and we catch it
Post by: bene126 on November 11, 2009, 06:36:44 PM
Yes.Now i can see it.When is RBRB or BRBR its changing bet.