Thomas Grant Scam

[xman1970]

Keep feeding, keep feeding.
We need more gullible people.
The more the merrier.
My site needs even more traffic.

Thanks Spike.
You have done me a great service.

I sure that comment is your attempt at sarcasm Thomas, but pls enough.....

Anything similar comments WILL get you warned.......... 

Or of course it wasn't sarcasm in which case I doubt the members here will take kindly to being called gullible.......

[Spike]

We need more gullible people.>>>

I'm sure you do, but if I can keep just one poor sot from buying your garbage, I've done my job. I know way too many people who 'invest' their money in crap like yours and get nothing out of it but heartache.

[esoito]

Nothing wrong with his comments -- sarcastic or otherwise.

He wasn't attacking any individual. So I fail to see the need for 'a warning' (shock...horror...) It was simply a generic, non-specific statement aimed at nobody in particular.

I wasn't offended by it. I take the view: "If the cap fits then wear it." On some things I'm gullible; on others I'm not.

And that cap probably fits most people at some time during our involuntary journey through this Vale of Tears laughingly called 'life'.

[Spike]

On some things I'm gullible;>>>

I think the mod's point is, the forum isn't here to take advantage of people. I, too, find it very odd such a scammer item is available here.

>>laughingly called 'life'.>>

Laughingly? Whats your name for it?

[Number Six]

Sam, you sound depressed. When I first joined the forum I found a lot of information in your posts and testing of systems (that were freely available and contributed by other members). Now you are a bot user and you seem to be a different person entirely. I don't dig your vibes any more. I don't approve of sellers being accommodated in the forum. System sellers are scammers. They are here to further their own gain. They are not here to help people. They contribute absolutely zilch. What is so hard to understand about that? Most of what you say nowadays is a joke. Bots are cutting edge? Dream on. So I ask why they are consistent winners. Where is the answer? There isn't one. Why? Because the scammers don't want to embarrass themselves further by displaying their total ignorance of the game. This whole affair is just absurd. You ask what I'm looking for in the forum? I have already stated that. But you don't care so why does it matter anyway? Look, I'm done with this. In no capacity do I wish to be part of a community in which system sellers are welcomed. It is wrong on so many levels. These people are parasites and they sicken me. You have resigned as co-administrator. Well, I'll go one better than that and have that No.6 removed for good. The scam can proceed seamlessly. I have made my point over and over and I no longer want to be around people who are desperate and idiotic enough to think that bots are going to fill their wallets. Literally, it makes me sick and I need to liberate myself from this stupidity.

[Spike]

It wouldn't bother me if they said IF you have a winning system and IF you transfer it to the bot, you'll win. But they don't say that. They say having a bot means you'll win and this is a bold faced lie.

[rjeaton1]

It wouldn't bother me if they said IF you have a winning system and IF you transfer it to the bot, you'll win.

That I've absolutely got to agree with Spike.  I can't say anything about Super Roulette as I haven't used it.  But, bots don't lose you any money by themselves.  It's the systems that they play.  So, if you've got a winning system, and you choose to put it into a bot, then you should be fine.

That was the reason I chose to promote the website in my signature and not any other roulette bots.

[Number Six]

Well, these scammers always fall back on blaming the player when the system crashes. On one hand super roulette says turn on the bot and the longer you leave it running the more you win - poppoc**k. But on the other hand he uses the same old BS lines like money management will negate the house egde and when you lose it's because you weren't patient (!) enough or used the wrong "settings" or whatever. It's a big joke and the biggest roulette scam going. These sellers and their affiliates are a disgrace to the forum. I don't want anything to do with anyone who is selling anything. Books, bots, whatever. Screw them all.

"if you've got a winning system"

Point is there isn't one, so if you buy a bot with pre-coded systems how is it not a SCAM?

[TwoCatSam]

Good grief, people.  I would have thought you'd just assume it's the program that wins.  The bot is just that--a programmable device that places the bets your system calls for.  The bot itself in no way wins any more than a hammer drives a nail.  YOU drive a nail WITH a hammer.

Number Six

If you have a problem with bots, sales of bots, talk of sales of bots, or whatever then you need to talk to Victor.  He is the person who sold--yes sold--the ad AYS or whatever.  He is the one who volunteered Lanky (who refused) and the me to test the bot. 

Why the bot wins:  It can work your system at such a low bet-rate that it can stay for hours until it wins.  You could not do that.  All you need is the bankroll and patience.  A swift internet connection to Bet Voyager would certainly be a plus.  I am down to 1/4 of my speed that I had when I started.

Six, perhaps I've changed.  People change.  Perhaps I've moved on. 

Here is a chart of today's.  This took over 4,000 spins to win 5E.  Who's going to sit through 4,000 spins?  I know, I probably faked the graph.  Put in 4,000 numbers by hand.  You guys are fighting a loosing battle.  Do you still ride horses or have you graduated up to "horseless carriages"? 

Samster

[attachimg=#]

[Number Six]

I am not fighting a losing battle. Super roulette has demonstrated that his knowledge of the game is scant at best. The bot's sytems are based on the same old fallacious principles that have been losing for centuries. I don't think you're faking anything. Your loses are real. You will lose again before you break even.

[Shorty]

I'm sorry Sam, but I wince looking at that graph. There is no way I would be playing with that bot if the bank balance jumps around like that.

[Spike]

It can work your system at such a low bet-rate that it can stay for hours until it wins.  You could not do that.>>

What a ridiculous statement! What the HELL does bet rate have to do with winning or losing??? A system either wins or it loses, placing more bets makes no difference whatsoever. It can spell disaster, in fact. Do you people have a clue what your doing?

[Spike]

The graph shows that after 4000 spins you're $7 in profit? And you think thats winning? LOL! Do you know anything about testing systems and the variances involved? Apparently not..

[thomasgrant]

I sure that comment is your attempt at sarcasm Thomas, but pls enough.....

Anything similar comments WILL get you warned.......... 

Or of course it wasn't sarcasm in which case I doubt the members here will take kindly to being called gullible.......

ROFL.
Sure no problem.
No offense meant.
Just a gibe at those that try in vain to smear me.
I try and respect the mods.
Even though we may not see eye to eye at times.
But I can delete the post if you wish.
Thank you for you concern and warning.
It has been noted.
No other time will I call members that G word.

[xman1970]

ROFL.
Sure no problem.
No offense meant.
Just a gibe at those that try in vain to smear me.
I try and respect the mods.
Even though we may not see eye to eye at times.
But I can delete the post if you wish.
Thank you for you concern and warning.
It has been noted.
No other time will I call members that G word.

Nope the post can stop right were it is as far as I'm concerned.....

Thx for your reply & understanding in this matter......

[xman1970]

-