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Title: The search is over...
Post by: Madiba on June 10, 2011, 07:01:33 AM
I have finally made a pact with the  :diablo: and in return have got the 'Holy Grail'
Many have claimed and many have scammed but none have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt
I intend changing this to show the forum readers that the  :diablo: game can be beaten and that they should not give up

My system (the  :diablo: actually) requires a gambler to record 24 spins and then bet for up to the next 12 spins
I have played this system successfully - but don't take my word for it
Send me 3 sets of 24 numbers and I will tell you what your next bets should be - that should prove my case
I will take numbers from a maximum of 20 people only - they can then post the accuracy of my predictions

You have nothing to lose but to silence me once and for all or you could get a valuable insight into beating the  :diablo: game

Any takers?






Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: RobbieD on June 10, 2011, 07:38:41 AM
11 12 14 2 5 27 17 17 23 6 9 15 7 31 5 7 20 21 34 6 32 10 24 27

25 23 12 14 32 0 28 30 22 22 4 31 4 10 13 9 32 21 2 17 17 26 31 5

30 22 18 11 8 11 6 2 18 16 7 28 14 21 8 17 27 22 20 0 14 6 21 31

(spun on Totesport)

Good luck.......
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: The Spiders Kiss on June 10, 2011, 07:41:46 AM
Ok Ill bite

starting with the oldest (furthest back number)

4
25
5
21
14
13
2
6
18
9
7
4
31
13
35
13
35
7
9
2
9
0
11
23

2nd 24


33
14
19
15
32
24
6
3
7
4
25
18
2
12
10
35
4
26
32
19
22
13
26
5

3rd 24

27
3
24
8
4
10
5
15
20
23
10
31
26
21
30
6
20
27
24
11
16
26
4
14




TSK
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: Carpanta on June 10, 2011, 08:29:51 AM
Quote from: RobbieD on June 10, 2011, 07:38:41 AM
11 12 14 2 5 27 17 17 23 6 9 15 7 31 5 7 20 21 34 6 32 10 24 27

25 23 12 14 32 0 28 30 22 22 4 31 4 10 13 9 32 21 2 17 17 26 31 5

30 22 18 11 8 11 6 2 18 16 7 28 14 21 8 17 27 22 20 0 14 6 21 31

(spun on Totesport)

Good luck.......

It's easy.

First session bet  13 20 26 for next 12 spins. Flat bet. Stop on a win.
Second session bet 16 12 34  DITTO
Theird session bet 19 30 9  DITTO

Wish me good luck!!! Lol.

Cheers,
Carlos.
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: Carpanta on June 10, 2011, 08:37:38 AM
Spider's sessions are easier.

First session bet on 14 32 36 for next 12 spins. Flat bet. Stop on a win.
Second seesion bet on 15 11 31 DITTO
Theird session bet on 19 30 9 DITTO

I dont need good wishes. Great bet selection! Lol.

Cheers,
Carlos.

Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: bombus on June 10, 2011, 09:00:54 AM
Quote from: Madiba on June 10, 2011, 07:01:33 AM
I have finally made a pact with the  :diablo: and in return have got the 'Holy Grail'
Many have claimed and many have scammed but none have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt
I intend changing this to show the forum readers that the  :diablo: game can be beaten and that they should not give up

My system (the  :diablo: actually) requires a gambler to record 24 spins and then bet for up to the next 12 spins
I have played this system successfully - but don't take my word for it
Send me 3 sets of 24 numbers and I will tell you what your next bets should be - that should prove my case
I will take numbers from a maximum of 20 people only - they can then post the accuracy of my predictions

You have nothing to lose but to silence me once and for all or you could get a valuable insight into beating the  :diablo: game

Any takers?

Instead of playing games why not just post the system?
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: Carpanta on June 10, 2011, 09:07:43 AM
Hi Bombus,

Because he wants to sell it.
It looks like Leon's Pascal roulette. You know the way Enygmista's system play. It was a bluff.

Cheers,
Carlos.
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: Kagatori on June 10, 2011, 09:14:56 AM
Well I'm intruiged and willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, let's hope its worth the wait.
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: Far-Q on June 10, 2011, 09:38:26 AM
Quote from: Carpanta on June 10, 2011, 09:07:43 AM


Because he wants to sell it.


Cheers,
Carlos.

Looks that way.Already got numbers posted up...and hes not yet posted his next ones......usual Scam.
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: ReDsQuaD on June 10, 2011, 10:06:52 AM
Quote from: Far-Q on June 10, 2011, 09:38:26 AM
Looks that way.Already got numbers posted up...and hes not yet posted his next ones......usual Scam.

What are the foundations of this system? Is it based on maths/probability or physics?

James.
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: Madiba on June 10, 2011, 10:10:47 AM
@ Robbie D

Thanks for the numbers - generally dont play online spins but here goes my selections
Remember to stop when in profit and maximum of 12 spins - then rechart (use last 24 spins so dont need to wait for another 24 spins - can play immediately)
I normally play between 12 and 24 numbers mostly 18 numbers with flat betting or mild progression

1st set:
Play 18,22,9,31,20,1,33,16,24,5,10,23,8,30,11,36,17,25,2,21,15,32,0,26,3
Barely qualifies so may not play

2nd set:
Does not qualify

3rd set:
Play neighbours 29, 14, 24, 13, 19 and numbers 35 and 3
Barely qualifies so may not play

How does it fair??

Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: Madiba on June 10, 2011, 10:13:51 AM
@ Spiders Kiss

1st set: does not qualify

2nd set: Play neighbours: 3, 22, 24, 30.  25
Wheel is a bit chaotic at the moment therefore so many qualifications
Play until profit or 12 spins
Flat betting or mild progression

3rd set: Play 32,15,0,19,35,3,12,18,29,7,9,31,22,1,33,20,10,13,36,11,25,17,2,34
Generally would not play this as it barely qualifies

How does it fair??
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: Madiba on June 10, 2011, 10:16:01 AM
@ Bombus

Willing to sell your soul?

:angel:
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: Madiba on June 10, 2011, 10:20:45 AM
I have posted my selections for the first 2 sets of numbers posted

Murphy's Law - the first sets up, the numbers either did not qualify or barely qualified BUT i posted what the system would suggest betting

I must highlight that the selections normally vary between 12 and 24 numbers with 18 the best suited

If you want to only bet 4 to 6 numbers then you may have to sell your soul to someone else

Lets see the results and hear from the sceptics

:agree:
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: MAX on June 10, 2011, 10:24:11 AM

Madiba are you from South Africa?

Regards
Max
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: Madiba on June 10, 2011, 10:25:22 AM
The one and only - Father of the nation
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: MAX on June 10, 2011, 10:26:57 AM
Nice   ;D

Regards
Max
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: Davemd on June 10, 2011, 10:28:15 AM

So Madiba are you going to tell us or even better show us how to play your method ?

Regards,

Davemd.
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: Madiba on June 10, 2011, 10:29:11 AM
@Red Squad

Maths, maths and more maths

Oh . . .  and my soul to the  :diablo:
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: Madiba on June 10, 2011, 10:30:23 AM
@davemd

Lets prove that it works first - then we can discuss the souls  :diablo:
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: Davemd on June 10, 2011, 10:40:53 AM
ok Madiba fair enough

I see The spiders kiss is on line play his numbers then he can confirm your correct ?

Davemd.
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: The Spiders Kiss on June 10, 2011, 10:42:30 AM
Hi

2nd set of numbers goes

9


3rd set of numbers goes

4
0

TSK
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: Madiba on June 10, 2011, 10:48:54 AM
@ Spiders Kiss

Please post the next 12 numbers out

Thanks
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: The Spiders Kiss on June 10, 2011, 10:57:01 AM
OK

The 2nd set now goes:
27
28
22
28
27
9
22
20
11
9
35
2


3rd set goes:
34
26
29
32
4
18
29
17
31
31
12
13

The Spiders Kiss
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: Madiba on June 10, 2011, 11:17:26 AM
@ spiders kiss

Results as win/loss

27 - L
28 - L
22 - W
28 - L
27 - L
9 - W
22 - W
20 - L
11 - W
9 - W
35 - W
2 - W


3rd set goes:
34 - W
26 - L
29 - W
32 - W
4 - L
18 - W
29 - W
17 - W
31 - W
31 - W
12 - W
13 - W

Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: Davemd on June 10, 2011, 11:26:26 AM
OK Madiba I think that proves it works

but the key lies in how you play ?

Davemd.
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: Madiba on June 10, 2011, 11:41:27 AM
@ davemd

Playing depends of numbers qualifying
18 and below is flat betting otherwise mild progression or even the dreaded martingale for 6 spins (depends on my mood - aggressive is martingale and never failed yet - the  :diablo: loves the martingale - I flat bet first 2 spins and if losses then use martingale for next 6 spins)
19-24 I normally play flat betting otherwise plus one on a loss until in profit or plus 2 on a loss
never had a losing session yet (normally play max of 36 spins a day and then go to the golf course)

always play in VIP room - larger table limits are perfect for this system

send me more numbers to prove system works ...
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: Madiba on June 10, 2011, 11:44:29 AM
@spiders kiss

im confused???
i posted the numbers to bet for the next 12 spins or until profit - that is how I calculated the W / L from your last post

am i missing something??
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: The Spiders Kiss on June 10, 2011, 11:54:16 AM
Hi

Maybe I got something wrong. :o If I did then I apologise. The point I was trying to stress was that we need to see more testing if this is to prove to have any merit.
Il see what numbers Davemd comes up with....Ill remain silent in the shadows in the meantime   :girl_wacko:  :girl_wacko:

ps I removed my previous post as to keep the thread clean.

The Spiders Kiss
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: Davemd on June 10, 2011, 12:15:50 PM
ok 3 sets of 24 numbers

3
5
4
4
17
29
24
3
9
24
35
23
35
19
23
31
33
2
22
25
17
22
1
4



31
19
6
2
15
6
23
33
12
21
34
14
24
9
26
2
10
35
1
22
33
18
8
6



13
22
19
29
13
22
27
26
26
9
1
33
11
6
16
0
23
12
7
21
33
28
30
9

There we go !!!
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: birdhands on June 10, 2011, 12:18:51 PM
Another set of 24:

4
23
14
27
27
12
32
31
7
2
25
17
1
28
16
26
11
5
17
25
7
9
31
3

These are 00 American wheel; skip them if that's no good.
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: Madiba on June 10, 2011, 12:30:17 PM
Will submit bet selections for last posted numbers this weekend - friday evening here and time to go partying
Catch you on the flip side

Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: John Gold on June 10, 2011, 01:02:33 PM
Hello Madiba and welcome to the forum  :)

I was looking at the results from 'the spider's kiss' first round of numbers and it made a nice 30 unit profit from just flat betting. This was using his original second set and third set of 24 numbers.

Are you using some kind of 'rule of the third' approach. (I don't call it the law of the third, it tends to upset some people  ;D)

I have tried a few things similar myself and the progressions can get out of hand. So I am wondering are you more reliant on bet selection or the progression to help you win? (or maybe an equal mix of both)

EDIT: I could be wrong but after a doing a bit of analysis, it looks like you are doing a mixture of the cold sectors and sectors that are 'warming up' (In other words, not the hottest but approaching the hottest)
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: Madiba on June 10, 2011, 02:16:26 PM
 @John Gold

when you sell your soul to the  :diablo: you get used to hot situations and look for solitude elsewhere (hope that answers your question  ;) )

flat betting is best since the wins are more frequent - however going aggresive with a small progression increases time at 19th hole since u get to leave casino earlier
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: Kagatori on June 10, 2011, 02:31:47 PM
So how exactly do u sell your soul  to the devil then?  I'm quite up for that!  So dies your system work purely on real wheels or could it work on RNGs? 
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: John Gold on June 10, 2011, 02:31:54 PM
Thanks for your reply Mabida, I will look into it.

You can't beat a relaxing game of golf. Many years ago, I use to caddy at Gleneagles in Scotland. The Japanese were the best tippers going. Funnily enough, the english were cheapskates  ;D

Good luck to you and I am looking forward to learning more about your method.
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: Madiba on June 10, 2011, 02:33:41 PM
Quote from: Davemd on June 10, 2011, 12:15:50 PM
ok 3 sets of 24 numbers

3
5
4
4
17
29
24
3
9
24
35
23
35
19
23
31
33
2
22
25
17
22
1
4



31
19
6
2
15
6
23
33
12
21
34
14
24
9
26
2
10
35
1
22
33
18
8
6



13
22
19
29
13
22
27
26
26
9
1
33
11
6
16
0
23
12
7
21
33
28
30
9

There we go !!!

@ Davemd
bet selection for his numbers submitted


1st set:

0,32,15,19,21,2,25,34,6,27, 11,30,5,24,16,33,1,14,31,18,29,7,35,3,26

2nd set: (would not play this since too many qualifications)

0,32,15,19,4,21,2,27,13,8,23,10,5,24,33,1,20,14,31,9,22,18,29,7,28,3,26

3rd set: (would not play this since too many qualifications)

0,32,15,4,21,2,34,6,27,13,36,11,30,8,23,10,5,24,20,14,22,7,28,12,35,3,26

Play these for next 12 spins or until in profit

Dave, please post next 12 spins to verify W/L ratio - thanks









Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: Madiba on June 10, 2011, 02:39:23 PM
@Kagatori

system works on rng as well - but I personally dont trust online casinos since I believe that the spins are not rng but manipulated to ensure you lose

surprisingly the system works with the national lottery too - drops number selection down from 49 to about 25 - definitely improves chances for selecting 6 numbers - just started investigating this and surprised at results so far

selling your soul is another story ... have you been a bad boy ;D
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: Davemd on June 10, 2011, 03:21:32 PM
ok next 12 spins for 1st numbers were

18-W
3 -W
24-W
20-L
14-W
24-W
32-W
9 -L
31-W
25-W
28-L
15-W

Thats Impresive !!!
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: Madiba on June 10, 2011, 04:48:01 PM
@Davemd

Out of curiousity what were the next 12 spins for the other 2 sets submitted

Thanks
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: Davemd on June 10, 2011, 05:07:33 PM
the 2nd 12 were

30-L
7-W
23-W
29-W
3-W
3-W
21-W
4-W
27-W
11-L
0-W
30-L

the third 12 were

1-L
34-W
36-W
11-W
24-W
27-W
36-W
19-L
22-W
19-L
2-W
0-W

I know there were a lot to bet on but you still hit 9 out of 12 in both.
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: pins on June 10, 2011, 09:20:37 PM
robbie .back 35.
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: birdhands on June 10, 2011, 10:27:16 PM
Quote from: pins on June 10, 2011, 09:20:37 PM
robbie .back 35.

What does this mean?
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: Madiba on June 11, 2011, 01:53:20 AM
@birdhands

only play single 0 wheel
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: Bebediktus on June 11, 2011, 02:35:44 AM
Quote from: Davemd on June 10, 2011, 05:07:33 PM

I know there were a lot to bet on but you still hit 9 out of 12 in both.

But that is nothing impressive 9 from 12 when covering 24 numbers is normal - 8 will exactly what say mathematics .
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: Madiba on June 11, 2011, 02:46:31 AM
@Bebediktus

you right - this is expected, however it can be as low as 12 numbers
for testing purposes, I have intentionally submitted around 24 numbers each time and depends on qualification criteria of submitted numbers
nothing guarantees that hit rate even with that coverage - if it were to win 3 times only out of 12, then it can be tossed in the bin, but what if it ALWAYS wins 7 or more in 12 spins? Can a clever gambler not take advantage of this? Would you?

Column and Dozen players would all be rich if the expected 'maths' results are ALWAYS achieved - however this is not the case

Unfortunately the 'Holy Grail' (at this time) is not betting on a single number to win at 35:1 odds
What if it were an even money (1:1) or 24 number (1:2) odds bet?
Would you not pursue?

Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: Bebediktus on June 11, 2011, 03:18:23 AM
I play diferently not based on previous hits. I bet on that what, i see exactly in spin on which I prepare to bet. If I hit I know why I hit, if not I also know why.
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: I have cookies on June 11, 2011, 05:30:46 AM
Quote from: Madiba on June 10, 2011, 07:01:33 AM
I have finally made a pact with the  :diablo: and in return have got the 'Holy Grail'
Many have claimed and many have scammed but none have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt
I intend changing this to show the forum readers that the  :diablo: game can be beaten and that they should not give up

My system (the  :diablo: actually) requires a gambler to record 24 spins and then bet for up to the next 12 spins
I have played this system successfully - but don't take my word for it
Send me 3 sets of 24 numbers and I will tell you what your next bets should be - that should prove my case
I will take numbers from a maximum of 20 people only - they can then post the accuracy of my predictions

You have nothing to lose but to silence me once and for all or you could get a valuable insight into beating the  :diablo: game

Any takers?








This is so boring - during all this years among different forums - this kind of post allways pop up.
At the end they are no different then any other method - how could it be when the wheel has 37 degree of freedom.
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: Madiba on June 11, 2011, 06:39:45 AM
@ i have cookies

send me ur 3 sets of 24 numbers and i'll prove it

so what is the purpose of this forum??? when a solution is offered with proof to back up why do we refuse to believe it??

must i jump through hoops to prove the system??

what is it do we really search for here - the 'holy grail' or ways to prove it does not exist

to each his own ...


Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: ReDsQuaD on June 11, 2011, 01:49:11 PM
Yeh, I agree with I Have Cookies. These topics do indeed pop out every now and then, this is nothing new.

As soon as you said this system was based on mathematics, I knew this was no holy grail. Its just another flawed concept that is based on probability/mathematics.

The fact is, it is not possible to beat this game unless you approach wheels with physics.

Don't think I am here to piss in your pool, but its the reality.
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: Madiba on June 11, 2011, 01:58:05 PM
@ redsquad

thanks for your views however be wary of underestimating the power of maths

a simple ms excel program is all that my system requires (after entering specific criteria)

put me to the test - send me 3 sets of 24 numbers 
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: I have cookies on June 11, 2011, 02:08:57 PM
Quote from: Madiba on June 11, 2011, 06:39:45 AM
@ I have cookies

send me ur 3 sets of 24 numbers and I'll prove it

so what is the purpose of this forum??? when a solution is offered with proof to back up why do we refuse to believe it??

must I jump through hoops to prove the system??

what is it do we really search for here - the 'holy grail' or ways to prove it does not exist

to each his own ...




I am going to be honest - i am not the best expert when it comes to roulette systems - but i do have rare knowledge that put me above 80 to 90% of all members at vls - how come - well the very best done flat betting on even money position has been made by Marigny - i have hes originals work and with new development and i have test so many methods during the years that nothing new that comes up is just a twist or something similiar of what i read others have done or try out or that i my self have been at the same path.

Is just that to be honest there is no idea give some one a sampel of any spins becouse the only thing that counts is placed bets and the principal of flat betting or using progressions even out to be the same bullshit.
I test and find thing funny to try out even if i alredy know what they are based upon GF - but even if i post and test things out does not mean i am a roulette system player.

I have never seen any one prove me wrong witch would be the following.

One decent method would be where some one can flat betting and win at least +1 unit and it overcomes the attempt doing so with 1024 placed bets witch end up with 10% profit.
If you can do that you would be ok in my book and any-thing else would just be same old garbage as allways.
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: Madiba on June 11, 2011, 02:59:16 PM
@ I have cookies

would love to prove you wrong

I however play between 12 and 24 numbers and sometimes play a small progression (generally when playing  24 numbers)

this is also all new to me - I just got a system that works and Im looking for a way to stop spending 3 hours a day playing it whilst still enjoying the rewards of it. If you can suggest an alternate option to my proposed subscription service then please do so

worst case is that I continue playing it and try better time management with my lifestyle - but then only I benefit
maybe im spoilt now or just getting lazy

I even considered approaching a news station to do a documentary on me and reveal the system - but I would need a lump sum to retire with - wishful thinking or just out the box

roulette can be beaten and has been beaten - once people grasp this then they can understand my predicament

out of curiousity - what would you do if you had the 'holy grail' and don't tell me that you would post it in any forum...



Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: Madiba on June 11, 2011, 03:05:06 PM
The fact is, it is not possible to beat this game unless you approach wheels with physics.

[/quote]

@redsquad
just read your post again and THE FACT IS until you have beaten the game with physics, anything is possible
how can it be a FACT when you or no-one else that I know of has proven conclusively the physics can only beat the game

:diablo:
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: ReDsQuaD on June 11, 2011, 05:22:51 PM
Quote from: Madiba on June 11, 2011, 03:05:06 PM
The fact is, it is not possible to beat this game unless you approach wheels with physics.



@redsquad
just read your post again and THE FACT IS until you have beaten the game with physics, anything is possible
how can it be a FACT when you or no-one else that I know of has proven conclusively the physics can only beat the game

:diablo:

Well, for all you know I may have already achieved this, so be careful what you say. Also, know what you are talking about first!

If you want proof, go and do some of your own research and you will discover the facts. It is not up for a debate weather or not physics can beat roulette, because  ITS FACT and is happening every day weather you choose to believe or not.

Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: Kelly on June 12, 2011, 01:30:07 AM
QuoteI even considered approaching a news station to do a documentary on me and reveal the system - but I would need a lump sum to retire with - wishful thinking or just out the box

The documentary will come by itself once you have a few casino closures behind you and a few Lamborghinis in front of you.
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: Nathan Detroit on June 12, 2011, 03:20:51 AM
Forwarded quote from a casino executive: "Our guests think they are playing roulette but in reality  roulette  is playing them.".

"
Apropos quotes . One of my favorite one  by Christian Kaisan :" It is  better to forego a win than to realize a loss..

:ok:

Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!

Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: Madiba on June 12, 2011, 05:14:40 AM
@kelly
I like your line of thinking  :)
if I was only 20 years younger - but what the heck - will give it a try

@nathan
wise words indeed - until I take them for a lamborghini or 2  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: ReDsQuaD on June 13, 2011, 10:48:27 PM
Why the hell does the topic keep jumping to the top without no new comments..?
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: System on June 14, 2011, 03:54:19 AM
Quote from: ReDsQuaD link=topic=18837. msg137619#msg137619 date=1308016107
Why the hell does the topic keep jumping to the top without no new comments. . ?

Simple.  Let me answer that.  Because certain system haters (pun intended) ONLY tries to discredit.  Madiba asked for spins.  There he made a mistake.  He should ask for spins from only like minded people and ask others to leave his thread alone.  Simple.  Hallo JJVR  ;)

Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: pihh on June 14, 2011, 11:25:13 AM
and an explanation of this works?

that would be great !!
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: Madiba on June 15, 2011, 02:04:53 AM
@pihh

I asked for spins from forum members
I then sent through all my predictions with both a 24# moderate and 6# aggresive system and both passed without any failings (refer to systems section for proof)

however that is still not good enough for many forum members
im not sure why?
how can you make that call on a system that has not yet been proven to fail?

if you are serious and want to WIN then contact me via email for further proof and testing

... the search is over ...  :diablo:
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: System on June 15, 2011, 03:06:29 AM
Quote from: Madiba link=topic=18837. msg137694#msg137694 date=1308114293
@pihh

I asked for spins from forum members
I then sent through all my predictions with both a 24# moderate and 6# aggresive system and both passed without any failings (refer to systems section for proof)

however that is still not good enough for many forum members
im not sure why?
how can you make that call on a system that has not yet been proven to fail?

if you are serious and want to WIN then contact me via email for further proof and testing

. . .  the search is over . . .   :diablo:


Sorry Where in the system sections?

Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: System on June 15, 2011, 03:09:39 AM
Your email address is hidden.

What is your mail?

Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: Madiba on June 15, 2011, 12:04:29 PM
The below link is for the testing done so far from numbers submitted from forum users.

nolinks://vlsroulette.com/sytems-tools-and-services-for-sale/roulette-tipster/msg137693/?topicseen#msg137693 (nolinks://vlsroulette.com/sytems-tools-and-services-for-sale/roulette-tipster/msg137693/?topicseen#msg137693)

To summarise the system:

Analyse last 24 spins out
Mild attack - play 24 numbers predicted for next 12 spins or until profit (can be as early as spin #1)
Flat betting or mild progression (averages 9 wins per 12 spins)

Aggressive attack - play 6 numbers for 12 spins or until profit (can be as early as spin #1)

Very aggressive - play 1 number for 36 spins or until profit (can be as early as spin #1)

If you play a minimum of 60 consecutive spins (5 cycles), guaranteed 10 wins profit, so if you betting $5 per number, each win is $60 and session win is $600

Have enabled my email for all to view




Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: Madiba on June 15, 2011, 12:06:04 PM
dada@madiba.za.net
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: System on June 15, 2011, 12:40:10 PM
Thanks Madiba,

Will mail you.

Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: ReDsQuaD on June 15, 2011, 07:12:21 PM
Quote from: Madiba on June 15, 2011, 02:04:53 AM
@pihh

I asked for spins from forum members
I then sent through all my predictions with both a 24# moderate and 6# aggresive system and both passed without any failings (refer to systems section for proof)

however that is still not good enough for many forum members
im not sure why?
how can you make that call on a system that has not yet been proven to fail?

if you are serious and want to WIN then contact me via email for further proof and testing

... the search is over ...
:diablo:


The search was never there in the 1st place! Roulette has and is being beaten every day you idiot.

You really do think your the 1st person to beat this game. It makes me laugh, you really have no idea do you? Well you haven't and certainly not the 1st!!

You are nothing special.

You also wounder why this system is not good enough, well I gave you the reasons already.

For those who may I think I am harsh, well this guy talks out of hes ass and it annoys me that he thinks he's the 1st to beat the game with another flawed mathematical system. This is just newbie shit and its just an insult to my intelligence, and others too.
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: Madiba on June 16, 2011, 02:31:48 PM
@ redsquad

I NEVER SAID THAT I AM THE ONLY ONE TO HAVE A WINNING SYSTEM - BUT I AM 100%  SURE THAT YOU DO NOT HAVE ONE  :nono:

I CHALLENGE YOU TO A CONTEST  TO PROVE WHO NEEDS TO BE  :-[

CAN YOU BACK IT UP OR ARE YOU JUST ALL TALK ? :haha:

THE FORUM CAN NOMINATE A MEMBER TO POST SPINS (all i need is batches of 24 spins)

:diablo:

Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: Nathan Detroit on June 16, 2011, 03:19:02 PM
madiba,



I presume  those  numbers  given are only valid for the  single  0 wheel.Correct.

Nathan Detroit


Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: Madiba on June 16, 2011, 03:31:25 PM
@nathan

yes - single 0
I have not tested on 00 as we do not have those tables here
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: Nathan Detroit on June 16, 2011, 03:50:29 PM
Thanks.


That`s what I thought. The 0/00 would be  an entirely differen ball game.


N.D.
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: Bebediktus on June 16, 2011, 04:59:47 PM
Quote from: Madiba on June 16, 2011, 02:31:48 PM
@ redsquad

I NEVER SAID THAT I AM THE ONLY ONE TO HAVE A WINNING SYSTEM


Madiba, lets say you have wining system. But that  can say everybody . From that what read here I not see anything better than simple progression. Your hits are in range of normal distribution not more. And that see also others .
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: ReDsQuaD on June 16, 2011, 08:49:13 PM
Quote from: Madiba on June 16, 2011, 02:31:48 PM
@ redsquad

I NEVER SAID THAT I AM THE ONLY ONE TO HAVE A WINNING SYSTEM - BUT I AM 100%  SURE THAT YOU DO NOT HAVE ONE  :nono:

I CHALLENGE YOU TO A CONTEST  TO PROVE WHO NEEDS TO BE  :-[

CAN YOU BACK IT UP OR ARE YOU JUST ALL TALK ? :haha:

THE FORUM CAN NOMINATE A MEMBER TO POST SPINS (all I need is batches of 24 spins)

:diablo:




You're a real *modified by mod with  warning*
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: Steve on June 16, 2011, 09:03:47 PM
ReDsQuaD does know what he's talking about. Anyway guys, why all the conflict?
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: Madiba on June 17, 2011, 02:14:40 AM
@ bebediktus
then I guess everyone has the 'holy grail' since my system is similar to everyone elses - WHERE HAVE ALL THE MILLIONAIRES GONE TO??  :dance1:
anyway, my system can also be played flatbetting on 18 numbers for 12 spins maximum
a winning system can be adapted/changed to various bets and can be played mild to aggressive depending on the qualification criteria met

@redsquad
:nono:
i will take your last response as one of you REFUSING MY CHALLENGE
i will ignore your comments from this moment onwards - i hate people that cannot back up their BIG MOUTHS :pleasantry:

@nathan
because my system is maths based, i am sure that it will have to be tweaked to compensate for the extra number, however I have never had the need to follow up since I never play 00 wheel

:diablo:

Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: System on June 17, 2011, 02:50:37 AM
I'm sorry but Redsquad is insulting another member. I think that is immature and says a bit about the person no matter how much he knows about roulette. If he doesn't like what he reads here he should move on. Really cannot see why he is getting so worked up for.  ???
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: ivan19061 on June 17, 2011, 04:57:14 AM
The only way to beat roulette is to increase the accuracy of prediction.
Any system wins in short term does not mean anything.
For all systems, they have their own core concept.
Some based on the law of third (which is one of the method that does not work, at least not on roulette,
why? because roulette is not Simply Math),
So what roulette is???
It's a ball and a rotor, the ball spins and spins around the wheel until it loses momentum and fall.
But the ball and the wheel are both fixed objects.
So we can say the motion generated from these objects are more or less the same in long term.
Like the ball track, from time to time, ball track will become scrap and less-smooth.
So it becomes one of the variables that make the wheel has common drop zone.
There are many more to it.
So whenever you are looking for a winning system, first look at their core concept.
And justify whether it makes sense or not.
What is long term in my opinion? At least a consecutive uncut 1,000,000 spins.
Not to offend anyone, and I do not care whether this system is work or not.
But I know if it a scam, the administrator will ban the author.
But one thing to remind everyone is that, winning a 24 number session does mean nothing.
Win in short term is not equal to win in long term.
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: Madiba on June 17, 2011, 05:39:35 AM
@ivan19061

thanks ivan for your comments - i agree with most of them as i also follow similar mindset

i however disagree with you on the laws governing roulette
these few laws have proved over millions of spins that they hold true and cannot be ignored - do so at your own risk

finally all forum members need to remember that roulette is played in casinos and not in the forums

i tested many systems and failed miserably over the years until MY 'holy grail' (may not suit everyone but it does the job for me)
test your system on 1000 spins - if it proves successful, then try it for real AT MINIMUM bets and from your winnings, then you advance the unit bets until you are making a decent profit - you end up PLAYING WITH CASINO MONEY

if it loses - you lost a minmum amount (however no loss is good) but you have LIVE experience and can only gain from that

if it wins, then carry on and enjoy the run

FINALLY a hypothetical situation:
if it was proved beyond a shadow of a doubt (and over billions of spins tested) that betting on the last 33 numbers would always give you a WIN - would you still question it and complain that it was too many numbers to bet on OR would you just accept it and make money?? The 'holy grail' may not come in the form that you want, but it does exist and should be taken advantage when it does come along to you

















Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: ivan19061 on June 17, 2011, 07:09:48 AM
Yeah, different people have different thinking about 'holy grail'
But I already have my playing method.
We have disagreements on the law of third, but it does not matter and not important.
I know another principle that is better than the law of third and more accurate.
In other words, we are on different way. I am heading to East, you may head to West.

Madiba, if you cannot find anyone interest about your system, never give up, stick to what you have,
beat the casino consistently and keep the secret.

There are many people in the world, different people have their own mindset and thinking.
There are no right or wrong as everyone values are different.

Cheers! 
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: Madiba on June 17, 2011, 12:32:12 PM
@ivan19061

well said -  :clapping:

As mentioned previously, im not trying to sell my system, was just trying to work smarter and eliminate the need to spend time at a casino

Im also investigating playing online - but from the outset im very sceptical - i dont trust online casinos, even if live spins - read too many stories about 'lost' connections amongst other things when you are in the midst of betting

I may invite forum members to view me play an online session in the near future, if its possible

:diablo:
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: MAX on June 17, 2011, 01:09:53 PM
Nice to  see you are still around here  :thumbsup:

Bye the way do I know you from somewhere?
(Bloem...Cape Town)

Regard
Max
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: Madiba on June 17, 2011, 01:39:00 PM
@max

possibly if you have played in CT
but im always under the radar - well i think so  :whistle:
:diablo:
Title: Re: The search is over...
Post by: System on June 17, 2011, 03:48:52 PM
Hi Madiba,

where you play in CT? At GW, Cal. Worc or Mic?

Love to meet up with you.