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Started by buju, August 01, 2010, 07:46:53 PM

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bombus

Quote from: keel44 on August 02, 2010, 10:45:57 PM
...As long as we are sure the 6 point divisor is the way to go.



I doubt you'll find better than the divisor for this. As long as the bet slection method is strong the divisor will boost it - IMO.

keel44

Well the question is then:  How many times will a dozen repeat?  That is the only way this will lose. 

I guess it does not have to repeat, but hit 5 in a row, miss a couple, then hit 5 in a row again.  I wonder if the divisor plan drags it out long enough.  I really never used it before.

8)

GLC

Quote from: keel44 on August 02, 2010, 10:45:57 PM
I do not believe he bets on all 3 dozens at once.  He would be a fool.  I think he just shows it that way for example/tracking purposes.  Differential betting is the exact same thing.  Let us end that discrepancy right now.

I think the method is excellent.  As long as we are sure the 6 point divisor is the way to go.



Keel,

I think you are wrong about betting all three simultaneously.  In his first post he stated very clearly that we are betting on 1,2; 2,3; and 1,3 at the same time.  In his example later on he showed by his play of the numbers that he is betting all three sets at the same time. 

Differential betting is a must for protection against a zero.

I know that you think if you can't win by betting only the 1,2 dozens every spin or only the 2,3 dozens every spin or only the 1,3 dozens every spin, then how can you expect to win just because you put them all together?  The only answer, if it indeed works, is that by winning in one or two bets you can reach a new high and reset.  A long loser can be mitigated by many resets before it reaches extra large bet sizes thus killing any small wins by the other two sets.

It will obviously have losing sessions, but it might just be a long term over-all winner.  With enough testing we'll see what happens.  You know how often these systems can start out like gang busters only to fizzle out when the losing sessions start coming in.  We all hope for the best, but most are a little doubtful.

Nice system, Buju.  I've tried differential betting on E.C.'s and also on the three dozens individually, but never thought to try betting on the dozens in sets simultaneously.  Bravo.

George

keel44

We have to hear it from Buju himself.  I think he uses differential betting.  I think he was just showing us how to track on paper.  After all, you get the same result with protection from zero.  Why not do it that way?

The theory on why it works is because of the 6 point divisor plan which can stretch out a repeating dozen until the table gets choppy again.  The bankroll needed could be significant, so you could only play with $1 chips.  I just tried for fun and I won $10 in 28 spins real easy.  A short but sweet example.  I will do more tests later.  I am sure many will.



KEEL

foreverBOB

Ok, but everybody agrees to better play it on single zero?
Or are some of you guys playing it on double zero??

Bob

Kyla Shooter

Quote from: foreverBOB on August 03, 2010, 01:27:08 AM
Ok, but everybody agrees to better play it on single zero?
Or are some of you guys playing it on double zero??

Bob

i think a person's location is the biggest factor in which wheel they play.

pablos

Quote from: keel44 on August 03, 2010, 01:02:20 AM
We have to hear it from Buju himself.  I think he uses differential betting.  I think he was just showing us how to track on paper.  After all, you get the same result with protection from zero.  Why not do it that way?

The theory on why it works is because of the 6 point divisor plan which can stretch out a repeating dozen until the table gets choppy again.  The bankroll needed could be significant, so you could only play with $1 chips.  I just tried for fun and I won $10 in 28 spins real easy.  A short but sweet example.  I will do more tests later.  I am sure many will.



KEEL

Quote from: buju on August 02, 2010, 01:01:15 PM
Yes of course you play spin #1 virtual instead of real... I just did that for explanation reason! (I dont want to make a confusion).   Use your common sense for betting the dozens,  for example  instead of play D1=2 / D2=3 / D3=2 you just play the difference between the dozens, which is you only bet D2=1






Quote from: keel44 on August 02, 2010, 11:50:50 PM
Well the question is then:  How many times will a dozen repeat?  That is the only way this will lose.  

I guess it does not have to repeat, but hit 5 in a row, miss a couple, then hit 5 in a row again.  I wonder if the divisor plan drags it out long enough.  I really never used it before.

8)

As I remember good when I was checking 700k spins from live casino from this forum maximum repeat was 12 or 13 for one dozen.


reddwarf

I'm testing the scheme of Buju, with differential betting. It looks awsome! (The clue is actually diff betting, without it you will get hammered).

I'm going to recheck in an hour or so, if it still holds, I'm going for a few spins in a real money RNG (I'm one of the fews who do not believe there is a difference between B&M and RNG, unless of course the RNG is rigged, but a clever casino would never do that as it is the safest way to make a lot of money (for the casino that is)

red dwarf

pablos

Hello

I think I understood the example except one thing. After third 3 came your bettings were:

3 [Won 2 UNIT on D1 and D2 / Lost 8 UNIT on D2 and D3 / Won 3 UNIT on D1 and D3]= PROFIT -3

Bet 2 UNIT ON  D1 and D2  EACH
Bet 5 UNIT ON  D2 and D3  EACH
Bet 2 UNIT ON  D1 and D3  EACH

6  [Won 2 UNIT on D1 and D2 / Lost 10 UNIT on D2 and D3 / Won 2 UNIT on D1 and D3]= PROFIT -6

My calculations here for D1 and D3 were target 12 and divisor 4 and the bet should be 3. I suppose that when target is 12 you reset divisor to 6 I mean you reset when you are break even ? Is that correct or I made some mistake. I am almost sure as the excel calculator from the link above do the same but I just want to be sure because I am new with this method and Lanky plan. Someone can help ?

buju

Quote from: pablos on August 03, 2010, 01:18:07 PM
Hello

I think I understood the example except one thing. After third 3 came your bettings were:

3 [Won 2 UNIT on D1 and D2 / Lost 8 UNIT on D2 and D3 / Won 3 UNIT on D1 and D3]= PROFIT -3

Bet 2 UNIT ON  D1 and D2  EACH
Bet 5 UNIT ON  D2 and D3  EACH
Bet 2 UNIT ON  D1 and D3  EACH

6  [Won 2 UNIT on D1 and D2 / Lost 10 UNIT on D2 and D3 / Won 2 UNIT on D1 and D3]= PROFIT -6

My calculations here for D1 and D3 were target 12 and divisor 4 and the bet should be 3. I suppose that when target is 12 you reset divisor to 6 I mean you reset when you are break even ? YES!!! Is that correct or I made some mistake. I am almost sure as the excel calculator from the link above do the same but I just want to be sure because I am new with this method and Lanky plan. Someone can help ?

pablos

Thanks for explanations. You wrote you made 10 000 spins and 3k pounds. Can you tell what chips did you use I mean how many chips you were in plus during a day session 250-300 chips average. When I tried to understand the example it took me a while to made calculations of next step. How do you do all this calculations in short time ? Do you use any tool ? I mean in live roulette in my casino there is only 30 sec for bet that is why I ask. Do you bet on 0 in any case ?

buju

Quote from: pablos on August 03, 2010, 01:58:46 PM
Thanks for explanations. You wrote you made 10 000 spins and 3k pounds. Can you tell what chips did you use I mean how many chips you were in plus during a day session 250-300 chips average. When I tried to understand the example it took me a while to made calculations of next step. How do you do all this calculations in short time ? Do you use any tool ? I mean in live roulette in my casino there is only 30 sec for bet that is why I ask. Do you bet on 0 in any case ?

With a lot of practice you will do the calculation in 30-40 seconds. It will be very helpful if someone do the excel for this system.

I am playing £1 chips, the maximum i have bet is £249.

nolinks.SuperCasino.com  1 minute to play, Minimum bet on dozens are 1 chips and Maximum bet are 1000

nolinks.smartlivecasino.com 45 second to play, Minimum bet on dozens are 0.25 chips and Maximum bet are 500

pablos

Thanks once again. I found some excel calculator which can be used but somebody could change it and addapt to this sytem:

nolinks://vlsroulette.com/money-management/6-point-divisor-plan/?action=dlattach;attach=4830

Unfortunately I am tied to my casino by first deposit bonus but thanks for info.

buju

It will be very helpful if someone do the excel program for this system and Contra D'Alembert (Positive D'Alembert). please...  please...PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

pablos

We can for example open that excel calculator in three tabs each for one double dozen than we should only substract lowest bet from each 3 bets. I think that for somebody who knows excel good it would be few minutes of work to addapt aboved calculator to this system.

I was wrong here because bets are for double dozens not one dozen so simple substract is wrong.

pablos

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