Randomness Effectiveness Versus Visual Ballistics Effectiveness

[I have cookies]

"Thats why some of them are so desperate for other ways to win at roulette, they thought bias and VB play would last forever."

Well said spike!   

The game is just warming up for the trend players.

Give me that slow knowing smile - dude -  

Was going to use the word stalker - but as you know me the last thing i would do is to offend you - action player !!

[Spike!]

but saying that the casino would notice an true AP milking>>


But they do notice, thats why the good VB players have been kicked out of more casinos than they can go into. Its a casinos job to notice. But they mostly defeat them with new wheel designs, wheels that are very hard to read for an edge. For myself, these new wheels produce even better true random results, so I love them.

[I have cookies]

I know what you saying but you don´t know what I am saying as it beyond your knowledge ...
As I would give away any explination here about what is what - it is also rediculus ...

1 in 1000 that attempt to become an AP makes it - even then it does not mean they will become any good or succesfull with what they do ... maybe I should increase that number I just mention ...
There is no books or material to learn from that is why so many end up with an roulette computer.
The only thing you can buy for money today is just an hint about the old days.

So I guess the only way is to find does cookies from the dark side  

As there is no constuctive dialog I just end it here ...

Cheers

[Spike!]

There is no books or material to learn from>>>

But that doesn't matter anymore. I know for a fact that the VB experts, the ones who have been doing it for years and years, are having a very tough time with all the new wheels. Some of them are so desperate they are considering writing how-to books, because they need the money. Remember, those who can do it, go out and do it. Those who can't do it anymore, write books about it.

[sherminator]

There are leaders who can think and act for themself and then there are followers or "victims".
The followers are normally greatful for any scrap of information. The problem is that they don't have the critical thinking skills to decide if it is of any use to them or not. This is just the constant merry go round that takes up a lot of peoples time.
There is no longer any point in gloryfying a lame duck. Yet the "so called" gurus persist.
Basieux was a fraud and so are some of the modern day exponents. I will keep what I have and continue to rub it in peoples noses. Life is not fair.

[Noble Savage]

Yeah guys, AP is dead. No casino should worry with all those modern wheels they have.

Spread the word.

[Herb6]

I find this thread amusing.  For many reasons.

[Spike!]

I find this thread amusing.  For many reasons.>>>

Whats amusing is all the old time VB players who are living in the past, and trying to convince all of us that nothing has changed. There are still exploitable wheels out there, but they are scarcer and and scarcer every year. In 5 years they will all be gone, except for some 3rd world countries, where you can't win more than a thousand dollars without getting your legs broken. Thats whats amusing.

[Herb6]

I completely agree with Noble Savage for two reasons.

[Spike!]

I completely agree with Noble Savage for two reasons.>>>

Yes, 'spread the word' about VB being dead is what the VB people want because there are a few exploitable wheels left out there, and the last thing they want or need is more people trying to find them. They are truly stuck between a rock and a hard place. On the one hand, they can't admit they were wrong and VB is getting very hard to make money at, yet they don't want to shout from the rooftops how great it is because that will just draw in more people and make it even harder than it is already. Kinda funny when you think about the box they painted themselves into, isn't it.

[Nathan Detroit]

Those  VB  players  are in full retreat and they can`t even call it  fighting in another direction. It`s  over .

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[Herb6]

I agree with Nathan too.

A full retreat is clearly happening, as we speak.

[Spike!]

Your average VB player who thinks he has it made has usually found a wheel in a local casino that he can make a little money off of. Of course he thinks he can do this forever and overplays the heck out of it and gets banned. So he sets out in search of another wheel and can't find one. He spends money to travel and check out casinos a long way from where he lives and eventually gives up in disgust. The pro's, on the other hand, have their tentacles out there all the time looking for wheels. Thats their new job, getting people looking for wheels for them. Their old job was playing, and it paid one heck of a lot better than looking does.

[Spike!]

A full retreat is clearly happening>>

Not a retreat by you. You have more people out there than ever, beating the bushes for you, promising them the sun and the moon if they find an exploitable wheel. How much longer will that last, a year if you're lucky? The proverbial handwriting has been on the wall for years and nobody saw it till very recently.

This isn't guesswork on my part. I have personally known a bias and VB player for years and he knows exactly whats happening. He's been dreading this forever and saw it coming a decade ago. He's given up entirely and bets sports full time and does pretty well. His take on VB is, money made for time involved make it a waste of time for him now.

[Herb6]

Beating the bushes.   

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[Herb6]

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