Not only have we lost Mr Chips......

[TwoCatSam]

.........but he deleted all his posts.  I can't find a single word the man wrote.

But I gots me notes!!

I have e-mailed the gentleman asking him to return.  I know of one other who has also.  Frankly, I doubt he will.

So I will volunteer to answer any questions anyone has about the 4Selecta.  I feel this was a very good system and I have faith it will always win.  So, why am I not playing it?  Well, the G.U.T. really peaked my interest and I am there for a while--maybe a long while.

Did anyone ever think of this?  While playing the 4Selecta, you only bet every third spin at most.  That leaves two spins for the dreaded zero to appear and not hurt you.  That alone should peak some interest. 

Once you learn the system, it is very easy to play--far easier than the G.U.T.  Someone should continue with this important work.

Bliss, are you still writing the program? 

Sam

[TwoCatSam]

Guys

I have better than "me notes".  I have the entire thread in .rar format.  It is attached. 

Sam

[Arteinvivo]

What happened exactly, why did he leave ?

[wiggy]

I would like to know the same thing - I never knew the man or had a convo with him... but he seemed like a guy with a level head toward positive opinions, which is what this forums all about...

Anybody care to offer an explanation?

[Herb]

He was offended by the presence of a section based on advantage play methods and the mathematics of gambling.

He basically said that if such a section was allowed on the forum, then he would leave.

He went as far as to say that the people there were cheaters, and that he would point them out to pit supervisors whenever he suspected them of playing with an advantage.  Of course, this didn't go over very well with some people.  So, in the section we promptly decided to label him as "Nark."

He had his own section, but the idea of us having our own section was simply too much for him to bare.


-Herb

[The Spiders Kiss]

Hi all,
Whether I agree with Mr. Chips' reaction to the presence of that particular section or not ,I would just say that I that I always found the man to be very helpful in his teachings and I found the 4selecta to be a good,solid profitable system.
So ,to that end,I too would like to offer my assistence to any one who needs it with this system.
As Sam quite rightly states it is nowhere near as hard as GUT to get your head around.
Sam,I trust that is ok with yourself?
regards TSK

[Arteinvivo]

He was offended by the presence of a section based on advantage play methods and the mathematics of gambling

So again it's a matter of ego. Some may be good with gambling's matters but when egos enters the scene they have no skills at all. Refusing to see a section on AP is a non sense. What the heck ?

[bliss]

Bliss, are you still writing the program? 

Sam, yes, my limited manual testing has shown a good profit, but in my experience a simulation sorts out the men from the boys. 

Did anyone ever think of this?  While playing the 4Selecta, you only bet every third spin at most.  That leaves two spins for the dreaded zero to appear and not hurt you.  That alone should peak some interest.

IMO this is questionable at best. It also happens that if you had bet during those spins where you were waiting for a section to form, you would have got a winner, so missing spins is a double-edged sword. There is no reason to suppose that the number of zeros, taken as a proportion of the total hits, will be less if you are missing spins.

[TwoCatSam]

Forum

One of the places (and there were more) where Chips and I disagreed was on VB being cheating.  I say if you can do it, power to you! 

Arte:  I suppose it was ego or pride. 

TSK...Yep, fine with me. 

Bliss,

Yes, I suppose you could argue the zero your way.  Here's how I see it:  Two out of three spins you don't bet.  When the zero comes on one of those spins, it has fulfilled (perhaps) its obligation to hit and will stay away awhile.  I know that is not "real" reality, as it hits when it hits--but I still like the idea that the extra number that can get me may have come a lot during the "dead" spins.  I've seen it happen.

From Bliss:  manual testing has shown a good profit

From TSK:  I found the 4selecta to be a good, solid, profitable system.

My hope is we'll get a newcomer who takes this up with a passion and we can all learn from his/her studies.

After it's all said and done, perhaps I should have stayed with the system and made tutorial movies like I did with the G.U.T.  He worked so hard to teach me and I just switched horses in the middle of the race!  If his ego is as big as is said, that must have bothered him.

Sam

[The Spiders Kiss]

Hi
Sam....The very first time I played 4selecta the HG number 34 was my very first bet..........single number and all that.. and it hit!!!
The point im trying to make is that without these good ratio hits Im not sure quite how well the 4selecta would stack up as a system as they help to make ground on the over 50 unit loss.
So if i hadnt bet for the first 2 spins(or missed any spins) that session may have been a loser.
Also according to Mr Chips' teachings you bet for around 150ish spins(sic) which if your betting 1 every 3 would also take out some of the sysytems built in safeguards.
Just my thoughts mate
regards TSK

[Spike]

but he deleted all his posts.  I can't find a single word the man wrote.>>

OH NO! LOL! Forget him, he's a bunch of hot air looking for a baloon to inflate. Anybody else notice that his command of English went from real bad to Harvard grad in last few months? He was somebody pretending to be somebody else. Turbo?

You should NOT have the option of deleting past posts, its ruins the archives, as they found out on VIP.

[The Spiders Kiss]

Spike
Check out reply#1 on this page
TSK

[Spike]

That leaves two spins for the dreaded zero to appear and not hurt you. >>

Good grief. If you play roulette and have to give even the slightest, smallest passing thought to the zeros, you're playing the wrong system. With a winning system, the zeros don't matter a whit, they are just something that slows down an already too slow game..

Also, by betting every 3rd spin, you'll get exactly the same number of zeros, it will just take 3 times longer. I take it you were speaking tongue in cheek. I hope..

[lucky_strike]

Maybe you should get an Avatar Spike

Cheers LS

[Worm]

Maybe you should get an Avatar Spike

Cheers LS

Yes feels more...well not like GG 

[Worm]

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