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Not only have we lost Mr Chips......

Started by TwoCatSam, January 15, 2009, 01:15:45 AM

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The Spiders Kiss

Arte,
No problem mate.Will be interested to see what you think of it.
TSK

Arteinvivo

I have openned this thread in order to deepen our understanding of this system. I am curious:

nolinks://vlsroulette.com/bet-selection/4selecta-system-the-sequel/

Spike

Have you actually had a look at the 4selecta,,,do you understand it....>>

I saw enough of it to realize its a long term loser, and even a short term loser. Its just one more system that depends on the board being just right for it to work. If I'm wrong, please show me.

The Spiders Kiss

Spike,
Yes you may lose a session or two using 4selecta,but if you play it using the proper stop loss as identified by Mr Chips for this strategy then ,in my experience,you will win more than you lose.
TSK

Spike

using the proper stop loss as identified by Mr Chips for this strategy then ,in my experience,you will win more than you lose.>>

No, you won't. Prove it with math. Should be easy, right? My bet is, you don't have a clue how to prove it or disprove it.

winkel

Quote from: Spike on January 19, 2009, 07:24:34 AM
My bet is, you don't have a clue how to prove it or disprove it.

do you have this clue?

No you don´t! You are just sitting on your horse named: nothing works.

If you don´t like people thinking and searching for new ideas, just go away.



Jakkalsdraai

 :) Winkel, enough said. Amen! We can only hope that ol' spike takes a tumble from his horse "nothing works"  ;D



bliss

Spike doesn't think that nothing works, only that nothing "mechanical" works. "educated guessing" is the one and only true way. This raises contradictions, because "educated guessing" must involve some "triggers", which Spike emphatically denies. If the guessing is "educated" then you have to ask: "educated by what?", and the answer to this must be something like: "educated by experience of what works and what doesn't work". So if you have that knowledge, it amounts to a trigger, and if we have triggers, we have a mechanical system...

Spike will have none of it though. He says "no triggers - every spin is a new event".

Ok, but sooner or later you have to make a bet, make a decision. On what basis do you make that decision? again we are led back to a mechanical selection process. If the guessing was not "educated", it would be purely random selection, which would result in the expected loss as per the house edge. A non-random selection (if effective) must conform to a repeatable pattern which can be differentiated from the many other patterns which are available, and one which has been shown to give an advantage.

Arteinvivo

QuoteThis raises contradictions, because "educated guessing" must involve some "triggers", which Spike emphatically denies.

It's because he likes to play with words and he never wet his toe. Anyway, no matter the triggers and how educated our guess might be, there is always a risk associated with a bet. However, i think we can adopt a set of behaviors to reduce our risk. I have talk about it in the thread How do you gauge the...

The Spiders Kiss

Spike
Whether i can disprove it with math is neither here or there.I have played 4selecta along with others in this forum and it works for me and them.
So off you go and play with your non trigger- triggers.  :-\
In fact you could tell us all what works for you, and maybe we could all have a look into that with you ?
TSK

Spike

Whether i can disprove it with math is neither here or there.>>>

Exactly as I thought..[smiley=3D-Smil-gros/36_12_6.gif]

The Spiders Kiss

So are we gonna be able to discuss your way of playin spike?............As your obvously the man with the plan here and all us others who have succesfully played and won with 4 selecta are liars.
Just because I havent explained it with math doesnt mean it hasnt worked for me and others and you are just an arrogant so and so to suggest other wise.So come on .....put up or shut up!
TSK

Spike

Ok, but sooner or later you have to make a bet, make a decision. On what basis do you make that decision?>>

You see 3 B's in a row and want to bet. Where is the trigger? A trigger would mean you make the same bet every time you see 3 B's in a row. If your bet is based on other criteria, no trigger is involved. Has a light bulb gon on over your head yet?

winkel

Hi spike,

why are you here?

Why don´t you go back to GG?

No audience for your sefishness?

Spike

Why don´t you go back to GG?>>

I'm here and at GG, I'm multi tasking. Don't be nervous, I won't hurt you..[smiley=3D-Smil-gros/36_4_16.gif]

Spike

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