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Main => Situational / Strategy play => Topic started by: Jdeadevil on August 17, 2013, 11:54:08 AM

Title: Quick theory question, if you don't mind
Post by: Jdeadevil on August 17, 2013, 11:54:08 AM
In theory, if you were using the margindale strategy and won one in every five bets, would you come out on top? I know just aimlessly betting using that system is a bad idea but in theory, you know.
Title: Re: Quick theory question, if you don't mind
Post by: chrisbis on August 17, 2013, 01:50:48 PM
Depends on what our worst outcome is.

8 Levels is pretty deep for most marty systems if you want to bet anything above 0.10unit price,

We have progressions that can go to 40/50/60 levels, but, the obvious thing is, when U go that deep and lose, of run  out of BR, or run out of table limit........what do you do then, other than cry!?!

So.................depends on your worst outcome, if 5 bets is average.
Title: Re: Quick theory question, if you don't mind
Post by: ausguy on August 17, 2013, 01:55:36 PM
If your progression went to at least 5 levels and you won no worse than 1 in 5 bets (20%) then you will win your original starting bet (unit) within 5 bet lines.

So yes you would always come out on top in that situation (in theory). In real play you would mostly crash & burn. If a consistant 20% strike rate was possible then casinos would have gone broke generations ago as huge numbers of players reap great profits but they don't.

Testing of past recorded spins will show you that you can't keep on getting a 20% strike rate. Also look at adding in a virtual nil money bet after any loss until a virtual win & then make your next money bet. Doing that really stretches your progressions & keeps you in the game longer.
Even with that you can still lose, nothing is 100% bullet proof.

The randomness of the wheel + table limits + the zero gives the casino an odds advantage

Each bet line doubles the last bet on a standard Martingale ("Marty") progession (not margingale ?). Plenty on "Marty" on Wiki & the forums, also check the MM (money management) section on this forum.

What controls your progression limits are the table limit ranges.  For example Smart Live on line Casino Live Dealer Wheel on the outside even chance bets (Red/Black etc.) has a 10GBP min. & a 1,000GBP max.  So the progressions will be : L1) 10 L2) 20 L3) 40 L4) 80 L5) 160 L6) 320 L7) 640.   With L8 too big @ 1,280.

So basically 7 levels only available. Off the progressions when added up gives you the min. BR (bank roll) needed. L1 - L7 = 1,270. A level 7 bet requires a 640 bet & a risk of losing 1,270 to win only 10. Even a L5 bet of 160 carries a 310 loss risk to win just 10.

The big question is would you take your bets to the limit ? Some players also like an insurance bet on zero when the bets get up to the higher levels .
So that needs even more money added to your BR.

Progressions & linked bet strategies fill these forums as members search for methods that might give net long term profits. There's thousands of posts & some that would give you Marty ideas.

Do a SEARCH up top near the HOME logo & type in Martingale. Bulk posts should display. Also on Google type in Guetting Progression. Many threads on there & some show a comparison progression chart of Marty & other well known progressions. Well worth studying as you can see the differences on both winning & losing.