Ok guys, let me give you this idea. Nothing special, maybe even seen before, but anyway you can comment. It is all about simplicity and PATIENCE. I personaly havent seen this before, although some similar systems yes. .
It is good thing to play when you spot situation like that, while you are maybe playing some other system.
Idea is to wait one dozen to hit 3 times in a row and the we play other 2 with progression +2 on a loss -1 on a win unitl we are not +1 in a new high. Then reset and wait another situation like that. You wont have many of them, but i did some tests and works realy realy good. DD are not big at all :) So i am using at least 10 units base bet.
Regards
THIS IS ACE :thumbsup:
I just finished testing in RX 1500 spins. . . I cant belive what i see. . . What a beauty. . It deserves at least some of tests of people here. I have done my testing, now it is your turn :)
Regards
Drazen
Quote from: psiho2209 on July 02, 2011, 06:01:45 PM
I just finished testing in RX 1500 spins. . . I cant belive what I see. . . What a beauty. . Drazen
Results please.
Screenshot, page scan, etc.
Mainly to show how you placed wagers, take downs, etc.
AD
You cant believe what you see???
Just wait for the same dozen to repeat ten times. You wont believe how you feel...
Insider
The cat explained what he is doing . That should be enough. Should he baby sit with evey one at a roulette table ?
Just take the proper bankroll , visit a B & M casino, live action and play his method
. You either win or you lose . If you have a 25 % loss limit you are in a good shape. No sweat.
That what separates the men from the boys or shall I say sissies?
BEAM ME UP.
P.S. I NEVER test methods . IThe first glimpse tells me if it is worthwhile a shot. With 2 dozens one is never too deep into exotic territory. No matter what the trigger is.
N.D.
What progression are you using?
Quote from: Nathan Detroit link=topic=18923. msg138180#msg138180 date=1309648860
The cat explained what he is doing . That should be enough. Should he baby sit with evey one at a roulette table ?
Just take the proper bankroll , visit a B & M casino, live action and play his method
. You either win or you lose . If you have a 25 % loss limit you are in a good shape. No sweat.
That what separates the men from the boys or shall I say sissies?
BEAM ME UP.
P. S. I NEVER test methods . IThe first glimpse tells me if it is worthwhile a shot. With 2 dozens one is never too deep into exotic territory. No matter what the trigger is.
N. D.
Thanks. True. I dont have to convince anyone this is good. Do some tests and you will see. This is very simple and effective. You just have to be patient, and that is very hard for most of guys here. . . Who can be patient enough can get good reward with this.
Regards
Drazen
Quote from: RobbieD link=topic=18923. msg138181#msg138181 date=1309649507
What progression are you using?
+2 on a loss -1 on win until you are at least +1 unit in new high
Regards
Drazen
Quote from: insidebet link=topic=18923.msg138175#msg138175 date=1309648331
You cant believe what you see???
Just wait for the same dozen to repeat ten times. You wont believe how you feel...
Insider
Well i wont be feeling too bad as you might think. I would stop on time probably. But belive me i have done plenty of testings on live numbers, that situation with 10 numbers in a row in one dozen doesnt scare me too much.
Regards
Just manually tested 1500 spins RNG @ Ladbrokes :blink:
Picked two dozens M/H and stuck with them, betting every spin no waiting
Got to +450 with max draw down of -250, then finished on +700 max draw down of -500
This is with really bad runs of low dozen.
:thumbsup:
Quote from: Nathan Detroit on July 02, 2011, 08:21:00 PM
The cat explained what he is doing . That should be enough. Should he baby sit with evey one at a roulette table ?
No, he gave an approximation of what he's doing.
Yes, you wait for 3 dozens to hit in a row. Then you start wagering on the other two until you win or show a profit.
If you lose, you add +2 and down 1 on a win.
Do you then wait for the next three in a row to come up or keep playing the same two dozens?
It makes a big difference. No so much in the eventual outcome, but the traditional long run of a single column in never more than a few spins away.
Just trying to get the details down before putting any RX programming time into this for amusement.
AD
Those 1500 or 4000 test spins are totally meaningless. The FIRST 3 spins at a live casino should decide whether you can stay at a table or not.
He presented a certain way of playimg 2 dozens and there is no proof that that he is doing anything wrong considering what we should all realize that roulette is a game of luck.
I am playing dozens with various approaches for the past 31 years and know exactly what to expect playing a 2 dozen method.
As an example If I had chosen to play the First and third dozen and the second dozen shows 3 times in a row I am getting away from that table .and begin charting another table.
Negative progressions are not producing winners. Just the opposite.
N.D.
Quote from: mr green on July 02, 2011, 09:43:37 PM
Just manually tested 1500 spins RNG @ Ladbrokes :blink:
Picked two dozens M/H and stuck with them, betting every spin no waiting
Got to +450 with max draw down of -250, then finished on +700 max draw down of -500
This is with really bad runs of low dozen.
:thumbsup:
If you are playing right way, there is quite much waiting.
Reagrds
Quote from: ADulay on July 02, 2011, 09:56:18 PM
No, he gave an approximation of what he's doing.
Do you then wait for the next three in a row to come up or keep playing the same two dozens?
Yes, i wait next three in a row to hit same dozen, then start again from 1 unit.
Regards
Quote from: Nathan Detroit on July 03, 2011, 03:39:50 AM
Those 1500 or 4000 test spins are totally meaningless. The FIRST 3 spins at a live casino should decide whether you can stay at a table or not.
As an example If I had chosen to play the First and third dozen and the second dozen shows 3 times in a row I am getting away from that table .and begin charting another table.
N.D.
What logic is in this? Why is second dozen not so good as other two? ::)
Regards
Yes nathan your right, nothing wrong with waiting like he said
Just wanted to demonstrate how good his wagering technique was
This is the key to this system so why not test it to the extreme
Thanks for the idea psiho2209
Quote from: psiho2209 on July 03, 2011, 04:16:27 AM
What logic is in this? Why is second dozen not so good as other two? ::)
Regards
My friend,
I am going to a casino with a pre-determined method of play. The example I have given was just to make a point.
As I have stated there are many ways to play the dozens. Like follow the dozens in line with the action on the wheel sequence regarding sectors ,, then follow the dpzen just according to the layout, or your way of waiting, plus oodles of more applications
It`s all up to the individual. But what is most important for me I PRE-DETERMINE my action of play BEFORE I enter the casino.
Do you know that ALL of those 2 dozen variantions are practically the same? What counts is that the player knows when to get up .
Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!
Quote from: Nathan Detroit on July 03, 2011, 07:28:10 AM
My friend,
I am going to a casino with a pre-determined method of play. The example I have given was just to make a point.
As I have stated there are many ways to play the dozens. Like follow the dozens in line with the action on the wheel seqence regarding sestors ,, then follow the dpzen just according to the layout, then your way of waiting, plus oodles of more applications
It`s all up to the individual. But what is most imortant for me I PRE-DETERMINE my action of play BEFORE I enter the casino.
Do you know that ALL of those 2 dozen variantions are practically the same? What counts is that the player knows when to get up .
Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!
I agree with you about getting up. But it is quite strange for me to say i can determine which method/system i am gonna use. Every visit to the casino, is diferent. I determine my method(s) when i see board with numbers. it is not same every time, it depends on situation. I am having quite much methods in my head. So my head is some kind of supra system :D, and by examining situation on the board with past numbers i am deciding what to do. And of course not too long playing with one method, switching from one to another whenever i am in plus, until i reach my not so big profit goal. Bread and butter money only.
Regards
Drazen
You are also correct with your approach . But I have chosen the pre-determined play by scheduling 3 sessions of identical play attempting to win 2 out of 3 sessions.
I don`t want to proceed any further in order not to contaminate your original post with your thoughts how you play the dozens.
PLAN your play and PLAY your plan.
Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!
P.S. Do you play at single 0 or 0/00 wheel jurisdictions?
Quote from: Nathan Detroit on July 03, 2011, 08:01:15 AM
You are also correct with your approach . But I have chosen the pre-determined play by scheduling 3 sessions of identical play attempting to win 2 out of 3 sessions.
I don`t want to proceed any further in order not to contaminate your original post with your thoughts how you play the dozens.
PLAN your play and PLAY your plan.
Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!
P.S. Do you play at single 0 or 0/00 wheel jurisdictions?
I am from Europe, so of course 0 wheel.
Regards
Lol good luck when you come into a streaking dozen that hits 18 in a row or when zero hits in the middle of your progression. I saw 10 - 18 dozens/columns streak a few times now. Its more common than you would think.
This is why you can't beat this game using mathematics/probability.It is A 100% fact that it will come crashing down when you least expect it. You have to realize the reality of this.
The house edge will always catch up with you.
At the end of the day, you have NO edge over the casino. Without that edge, whats the point? You can't beat em.
It took me a long time to get my head out of the sand to understand how to properly beat this game. Don't waste your time on any system that is based on outside betting.
Quote from: ReDsQuaD on July 03, 2011, 09:20:32 AM
Lol good luck when you come into a streaking dozen that hits 18 in a row or when zero hits in the middle of your progression. I saw 10 - 18 dozens/columns streak a few times now. Its more common than you would think.
This is why you can't beat this game using mathematics/probability.It is A 100% fact that it will come crashing down when you least expect it. You have to realize the reality of this.
The house edge will always catch up with you.
At the end of the day, you have NO edge over the casino. Without that edge, whats the point? You can't beat em.
It took me a long time to get my head out of the sand to understand how to properly beat this game. Don't waste your time on any system that is based on outside betting.
Thank you for you concern my friend. But even strike of 10-18 in a row wont do me some damage playing this. i know how to prevent that. You are wrong about outside bets. there is now diference between in and out-side bets, if you are claiming so than you didnt study this game enough. And please tell me what is proper way to beat this game. And by that i dont think to tell me to visit links in your signature. And what about end of a day? i dont play this game whole day :) In every your spin you are -2.7 behind roullete if you are going to look it at that way. And yes you can beat roulette with math, especialy with probability, but only to some point. I dont go further than that point. YOU CAN BEAT THIS GAME BUT YOU CANT CONQUER IT in longterm of course.
Regards
Drazen
Quote from: psiho2209 on July 03, 2011, 04:05:10 AM
Yes, I wait next three in a row to hit same dozen, then start again from 1 unit.
Regards
Thanks. That's what I was asking about.
AD
Quote from: psiho2209 on July 03, 2011, 10:21:43 AM
But even strike of 10-18 in a row wont do me some damage playing this. I know how to prevent that. You are wrong about outside bets
Please Don't insult my intelligence with that bullshit, YOU are wrong not me. You can't prevent it because of the ZERO.
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You are wrong about outside bets. there is no difference between in and out-side bets, if you are claiming so than you didnt study this game enough
Actually its the other way round. Any one who stated exactly what you just stated, tells me that they don't know what they are talking about.
If you looked at roulette from a physical perspective, you would soon realize there is every difference between outside bets and straight up numbers.
When I look at a roulette wheel, I don't see numbers, I see pockets with markings on each.
When you look at roulette, you don't know what you are looking for because you don't know it exists.
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And yes you can beat roulette with math, especialy with probability, but only to some point. I dont go further than that point. YOU CAN BEAT THIS GAME BUT YOU CANT CONQUER IT in longterm of course
I think that just tops it all off for you.t. I like how you say especially with probability :lol: That does not make sense.
Beating roulette short term is not exactly beating roulette is it?. So how did you come to the conclusion that roulette is not possible to beat long term? You talk rubbish.
If you knew the truth behind roulette, you would know this game is beatable long term, of course it is. Any professional advantage player would know that roulette is beatable long term.
I dont have time to argue with you, or i will. Of course i know how outside bets looks like when you put them around the wheel. And maybe i writte it wrong. I wanted to say that is possible to beat this game in longterm. Anything else is not matter. Advantage play is not only way how to beat this game btw.
Regards
Quote from: psiho2209 on July 03, 2011, 03:04:18 PM
I dont have time to argue with you
No, its because you don't know what you are talking about and you cant answer me.
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Advantage play is not only way how to beat this game btw.
Regards
You obviously don't know the meaning of Advantage play. You have made your self look quite stupid in the last TWO posts.
Advantage play is not a method, it means you have a type of advantage to overcome the house edge.
Posting a system = Cat fights :suicide:
Quote from: mr green on July 03, 2011, 04:34:31 PM
Posting a system = Cat fights :suicide:
It only turns into cat fights when the member is arrogant, tells you to do more research and accusing you of knowing zero about the game - when in fact it is they who needs to do discover the truth.
It pisses me off because it is disrespectful and insulting. Especially when they don't anything about you.
Go and get a glass of milk and just calm down, the worms can get to you I know.
I apologize for what i said. My purpouse wasnt to offend you.
You are too much arrogant also. I respect you as senior and more experienced player maybe, but you would suprise what i maybe know... From forums i can tell you "dumb ones" are dumb for reason...
Regards
Quote from: psiho2209 on July 03, 2011, 04:59:14 PM
I apologize for what I said. My purpouse wasnt to offend you.
You are too much arrogant also. I respect you as senior and more experienced player maybe, but you would suprise what I maybe know... From forums I can tell you "dumb ones" are dumb for reason...
Regards
Thanks for your apology. By the way I am 22. Its not all about experience, its all about knowing the truth behind this game. I may sound a bit arrogant, but I know what I am talking about weather you to choose to believe it or not.
There are only TWO routes you can take.
1) Carry on believing in what ever you believe
Or
2) Focus purely on Wheel physics.
That is all it boils down too.
I am glad you said it. At least some things are gonna be clearer now... Well i am even one year older... And PLEASE tell me something: I ll do my best to choose right path you gave me, from these two. So i ll take route 2
What do i need for that? Something from web pages in your signature maybe, dear friend?
Regards
Drazen
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What do I need for that? Something from web pages in your signature maybe, dear friend?
;D
A
Reds squad, whatever his name is, is 1000% right. You just cannot beat this game with outside bets... You have to look at the wheel itself. The "physical" side of the wheel can make you win. No other way. You get guys here pretending to be above the fray ( like this Detroit guy), and pretend to be winners. No way do they explain how to they do it, beside the very stupid " you have to know when to get in and to get out". Of course!!! If we knew when to get in and out, we would all be billionaires, for f...sake. This is 100% BS. If you have a wining method, you just play it flat bet as long as you can. Simple as that. No money management or progression will make a winner out of a dud. I understand newbies like to think otherwise. But the grandfathers of roulette should know better.
Insider
Insidebet
One question
Why log into vls everyday?
the truth is nobody beats roulette. you win and lose but in the long run you lose more then you win. i see them win a few thousand at a session. but to win big you have to bet big. if you see them play every day they get the run from hell. goodby winnings. but all gamblers will tell you about the big wins. forget about the losses. good luck. what ever that is.
Mr Green,
I have been interested in roulette for the past 12 years. I have been in contact with very knowleagable people here from time to time. Not everybody here believes in fairy tales like "wait for 3 reds in a row and then bet black with a progression", if you get what I mean. But then again, you probably don t.
Insidebet
ALSO WE COULD TRY...
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*there are 27 formations for groups of 3 consecutive dozens/columns
so there are 9 groups "matrix style" starting with each one
example dozzen 3
311
312
313
321
322
323
331
332
333
so we can try instead of hitting the sleeper, bet that it will sleep one more time.
For the above suggestion here is a test made over some real spins
33
22
28 323
0
4
25 312
1
21
18
19
8
25 323
13
26
22
16
9
34 333
29
28
19
3
11
9
8
17
33 333
28
30
24
18
6
29 332
32
22
13
1
11
3
33 322
22
14
17
27 313
12
35
8
19
28 331
30
2
22
28 321 Trigger- From now on we will bet against the formation 311 (sleeper) to happen.
19
8
28 333 WIN
34
35
24
26 333 W
29
35
22
29 312 W
1
22
33 313 W
2
34
22
6
12
9
33 321 W
24
7
15
31 321 W
19
1
17
11
19
20
32 322 W
15
15
34 322 W
19
13
34 322 W
13
28
20
33 313 W
9
31
15
35 321 W
13
6
These are several attacks displayed until a loss but we should aim (in the beggining) for one Win and restart.
Why?
...not because hit & run
but because the frequency of hits in a window.
for dozen 3 we got our trigger much sooner than for dozen 2
10 virtual games Vs 16 virtual games until trigger.
If you run a simulator and get frequencies for how many games we need to complete a cycle of all 9 formations.
Then we can get optimal attack windows.
hope someone runs it in Rx or so.
Hello psiho2209 ,
Thank you for your system.
Tried it out last night and been up for 1220 Euro.
Greetings
John Rotterdam ( Holland )
Very thankful albertojonas for your ideas.
Listen guys, testing extremely any method unitl fails in front of pc, and playing with it using all your knowledge, gamblers fallacy, and trying to improve it, is something completely different. Every method is just tool for each player, and his knowledge, experience and "reading" game flow is what makes diference are you gonna be looser or winner.
And while some of you here are arrguing with me about that how is gonna fail one day, i am taking good money with it. But not just with it of course. That method is only one from tools out of my bag, i taking to the casino. You can have best tools in the world but if you are not good "handyman" you cant do too much with good tools only. And i am not pretending i win all the time, sum in the end of month is important, not maybe one session in positive 0 or slight minus... It happens also of course.
And please stop giving me that crap about inside and outside bets. I am not using only in or outside bets whole time... Although i could and i would win, dear firend alberto gave you good example.
Regards
Drazen
And of course i am carring real heavy hammer if all other "tools fails".So i am sure i can beat that game in the end anyway ;D ;D ;D ;D
Regards
Drazen
And one more thing. Things about having great knowledge and method(s) that will beat this game every time are pure bullshit... Even if you have some great great knowledge and good methods, you have to come to the roulette with 10 units to win 1. Not vice versa. If you want big sums you need to have big sums (good bank) and bet big sums. For making good bank you will need many years and respectful amount of patience. But why am i saying this to you, most of you anyway here are or scammers, or people who have never entered live casino, and only waiting in front of pc to get some system and test it for few thousand spins per session, and when it fails after so much spins, you will arrguing about that how it is not good because it FAILED. Do you maybe even know on how many spins should be tested every system? How many spins you can play a day? What should look like average session? This is one the last my posts here and i wont be posting here anymore, that is for sure. I dont have so much precious time to arrgue with people who dont deserve it...
Best regards
Most of you just want to get some method you will use without thinking and to rich overnight. Well i ll disapoint you, you wont get that, because it is imposible... You are never to ready to look any method from "distance", you just take it and testing until it fails, not thinking how could you maybe implement in your session. What do you want? And i get goose bumps when i see how many scammers is around here. Oh dear... But that perfectly fits with people who are leading this forum, i know that also... Dont worry about me. I have my guardain angels for this game. You dont have to explain to me how stupid something about this game maybe is, what i said. While you are maybe laughing at my posts, be sure i also laugh at you, because you are the one who should be feeling sorry not me. I will repeat, stupid ones are stupid for reason, because stupid ones are always trying to make they look smart, and that is not wat i did here... This is end for me here. All the best to you all.
Regards
Don't wait till 3 dozens or columns come! Do the strategy after 2 D/C and you increase your wins rapidly. I do it for years as a filler for other betting systems. If double dozen or column comes bet the opposite 2, if loss wait for next double trigger.
To increase betting chance you can ad double streets: A 1-4, B 2-5, C 3-6.
Hermes
Quote from: albertojonas on July 03, 2011, 11:43:55 PM
ALSO WE COULD TRY...
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*there are 27 formations for groups of 3 consecutive dozens/columns
so there are 9 groups "matrix style" starting with each one
example dozzen 3
311
312
313
321
322
323
331
332
333
so we can try instead of hitting the sleeper, bet that it will sleep one more time.
You can even bet next row that the last spin will not repeat. Example:
321
32? bet 2/3 against the 1 D/C. If lost wait for end of the next row.
Hermes
Thanks Hermes, also good aproach.
Regards
With slow progression you can never lose with the double D/C strategy. There will be small downdrafts from time to time but you come always on the end as a winner. I know it from long experience. This is one of my strategies I am not afraid of losing the game.
Hermes
Quote from: hermes on July 04, 2011, 10:18:54 AM
Quote from: albertojonas on July 03, 2011, 11:43:55 PM
ALSO WE COULD TRY...
===============================================================
*there are 27 formations for groups of 3 consecutive dozens/columns
so there are 9 groups "matrix style" starting with each one
example dozzen 3
311
312
313
321
322
323
331
332
333
so we can try instead of hitting the sleeper, bet that it will sleep one more time.
You can even bet next row that the last spin will not repeat. Example:
321
32? bet 2/3 against the 1 D/C. If lost wait for end of the next row.
Hermes
and that is exactly what is being done.
we have a strange bond Hermes. ;-)
At online casinos with low bankroll you can use this progression:
on 0 on D/C bankroll win D win 0
0.1 0.5/0.5 1.1 0.4 2.5
0.2 1.5/1.5 4.3 0.2 2.9
0.6 5/5 14.9 0.1 6.7
2 20/20 56.9 3.1 15.1
In average XX comes in 6,8 spins and XXX comes in 20 spins once. Easy math what to do.
Hermes
Quote from: ReDsQuaD on July 03, 2011, 03:51:20 PM
No, its because you don't know what you are talking about and you cant answer me.You obviously don't know the meaning of Advantage play. You have made your self look quite stupid in the last TWO posts.
Advantage play is not a method, it means you have a type of advantage to overcome the house edge.
Advantage play is a method Yes YES YES YES.
and YES it means a method you believe overcomes house edge. And the man didn't say method. he said WAY. WAY.
I repeat it because it seems you have some kind of difficulty sight reading it.
tell me you are one of those who bought a roulette computer...
Why don't you stay away if it doesn't interest you?
Want to contribute with something despite saying we are stupid and it does not work?
I smell frustration.
Be fair and polite if you can.
Albertojonas,
Think about it for two seconds...
After 150 years of research by millions of people, the answer is "wait for a dozen to repeat three times, and then bet gainst it with a progression". And you can honnestly say this is not silly?
This beginners stuff. We all, and I mean al, go through that phase.
I am just being realistic here, not negative.
Insider
Insidebet why don't you observe 5000 spins of dozens and columns. After that you will change your mind, I guarantee you. You people are looking for very complicated strategies and systems and the roulette and other games are so simple. Most of the time we even don't see the tip of our nose because we are busy with the distant.
I don't care what did impotent researchers for 150 years, what I know that they wasted their time.
Not heavy negative thinking but sharp observation of the game will improve the angle of seeing it. The old Chinese made the significant discoveries through the observation of the things.
Be a good and patient observer and the key to holy grail will appears. Edison failed 10.000 times before it started to glow in his bulb! Want something badly enough and it will realize itself.
Hermes
insider, I'm still waiting for you to offer some positive input. I dare say you're as peeeved as we all are that these systems don't work, what do you suggest? We all know so what do YOU think, i rest your case...!
it is not a question wether it is a newbie system or not. It's the dissenting arrogant posture some members take.
Let people share and make their own path.
Good Luck
I think it should be a prerequisite that on any method it should be noted whether a system is for a live wheel or RNG.
RNG is software. Therefore it can be manipulated. It is not true roulette. It is is not true RNG.
On RNG Playtech doing free spins I can achieve numerous blocks of black or red - I had 25 reds yesterday on free spins - however, using my bet of following reds and blacks, i.e. if a red appears bet on red, if a black appears, bet on black, multiple blocks of a colour suddenly disappear and the zig-zags suddenly appear (red black red black red black, etc) and usually the highest blocks of colours are about 5 or 6. Zig-zags kill the betting.
Exactly the same with dozens. Betting against a certain dozen, I have had that dozen hit 12 times. Yet when I use a similar bet to the above, i.e. if the first dozen hits I bet on that dozen, the 2nd dozen hits, I bet on that, etc., the occurrence of multiple dozens decreases dramatically.
Paranoid? Perhaps. Proveable? No.
Unless a Playtech employee comes on this Forum to spill the beans, you will never be able to prove that Playtech adjusts their software according to your betting patterns.
I liken Playtech to UK politicians and Rupert Murdoch. They are all money-grabbing manipulative bastards.
So, I think if you have a system, you must say if it's for a live wheel or RNG - if it's for the latter I can categorically state now that it will not work.
You have been warned. Online RNG is not true random. And I bet if the likes of Wiliiam Hill and Europa read these forums they are smiling from ear to ear........
Your all right
Outsidebet has a point and hermes is bang on in my view, but thats just me I like simple. :laugh:
You cant beat roulette, but you can win at roulette.
It will never be beaten because of -2.7 its impossible to win forever with a system and never lose.
What these simple ways do is give you an idea of the patterns, so in play you can make decisions based upon what you believe will happen, even pros have bad days but will make up for it on another.
The reason people like these systems is because of the low bank needed to fund them, to play on strait up numbers you need to have large bank or be very lucky just betting on two or three numbers.
Someone so clever should think of their own systems, and see how clever they really are. lol
xx
Hermes,
If I get your point right, you are saying "observe and go with your gut feeling". No set rules. Right? Maybe so, but I am yet to see anyone win with theit gut feelings. To me it is all down to luck if you play like this. But what do I know! Sweet f all I guess...
I am one of the very few here to have made a decent amount of cash with this game. I already said how. And for the Xth time, I will not mention it again.
Now I also suggested a few different methods with a possible positive expectation outcome. Not much interest albeit a few private messages from a few people. The rest were too busy "waiting for three of the same dozen and betting the opposite".
Insider
One more thing.
What my "gut feeling" tells me is that, if there is a winning way, it has something to do with the physical side of the wheel itself. Not in any way with the table bet layout.
So one must concentrate with sectors, big or small, the dealer spinning the ball, wheels biases, etc. etc.
But don t listen to any of that. I am just a negative loser that don t know anything.
Insider
dozens and columns are just permanent uneven layouts on the wheel. it is much harder to deal with them than with different order physical parts of the wheel. I totally agree with Insidebet on that.