Patient dozens

psiho2209 · July 03, 2011, 04:16:27 AM

Quote from: Nathan Detroit on July 03, 2011, 03:39:50 AM

Those 1500 or 4000 test spins are totally meaningless. The FIRST 3 spins at a live casino should decide whether you can stay at a table or not.

As an example If I had chosen to play the First and third dozen and the second dozen shows 3 times in a row I am getting away from that table .and begin charting another table.

N.D.

What logic is in this? Why is second dozen not so good as other two?

Regards

mr green · July 03, 2011, 06:30:23 AM

Yes nathan your right, nothing wrong with waiting like he said

Just wanted to demonstrate how good his wagering technique was

This is the key to this system so why not test it to the extreme

Thanks for the idea psiho2209

Nathan Detroit · July 03, 2011, 07:28:10 AM

Quote from: psiho2209 on July 03, 2011, 04:16:27 AM
What logic is in this? Why is second dozen not so good as other two?

Regards

My friend,

I am going to a casino with a pre-determined method of play. The example I have given was just to make a point.
As I have stated there are many ways to play the dozens. Like follow the dozens in line with the action on the wheel sequence regarding sectors ,, then follow the dpzen just according to the layout, or your way of waiting, plus oodles of more applications

It`s all up to the individual. But what is most important for me I PRE-DETERMINE my action of play BEFORE I enter the casino.

Do you know that ALL of those 2 dozen variantions are practically the same? What counts is that the player knows when to get up .

Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!

psiho2209 · July 03, 2011, 07:49:23 AM

Quote from: Nathan Detroit on July 03, 2011, 07:28:10 AM
My friend,

I am going to a casino with a pre-determined method of play. The example I have given was just to make a point.
As I have stated there are many ways to play the dozens. Like follow the dozens in line with the action on the wheel seqence regarding sestors ,, then follow the dpzen just according to the layout, then your way of waiting, plus oodles of more applications

It`s all up to the individual. But what is most imortant for me I PRE-DETERMINE my action of play BEFORE I enter the casino.

Do you know that ALL of those 2 dozen variantions are practically the same? What counts is that the player knows when to get up .

Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!

I agree with you about getting up. But it is quite strange for me to say i can determine which method/system i am gonna use. Every visit to the casino, is diferent. I determine my method(s) when i see board with numbers. it is not same every time, it depends on situation. I am having quite much methods in my head. So my head is some kind of supra system

, and by examining situation on the board with past numbers i am deciding what to do. And of course not too long playing with one method, switching from one to another whenever i am in plus, until i reach my not so big profit goal. Bread and butter money only.

Regards
Drazen

Nathan Detroit · July 03, 2011, 08:01:15 AM

You are also correct with your approach . But I have chosen the pre-determined play by scheduling 3 sessions of identical play attempting to win 2 out of 3 sessions.

I don`t want to proceed any further in order not to contaminate your original post with your thoughts how you play the dozens.

PLAN your play and PLAY your plan.

Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!

P.S. Do you play at single 0 or 0/00 wheel jurisdictions?

psiho2209 · July 03, 2011, 08:19:57 AM

Quote from: Nathan Detroit on July 03, 2011, 08:01:15 AM
You are also correct with your approach . But I have chosen the pre-determined play by scheduling 3 sessions of identical play attempting to win 2 out of 3 sessions.

I don`t want to proceed any further in order not to contaminate your original post with your thoughts how you play the dozens.

PLAN your play and PLAY your plan.

Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!

P.S. Do you play at single 0 or 0/00 wheel jurisdictions?

I am from Europe, so of course 0 wheel.

Regards

ReDsQuaD · July 03, 2011, 09:20:32 AM

Lol good luck when you come into a streaking dozen that hits 18 in a row or when zero hits in the middle of your progression. I saw 10 - 18 dozens/columns streak a few times now. Its more common than you would think.

This is why you can't beat this game using mathematics/probability.It is A 100% fact that it will come crashing down when you least expect it. You have to realize the reality of this.

The house edge will always catch up with you.

At the end of the day, you have NO edge over the casino. Without that edge, whats the point? You can't beat em.

It took me a long time to get my head out of the sand to understand how to properly beat this game. Don't waste your time on any system that is based on outside betting.

psiho2209 · July 03, 2011, 10:21:43 AM

Quote from: ReDsQuaD on July 03, 2011, 09:20:32 AM
Lol good luck when you come into a streaking dozen that hits 18 in a row or when zero hits in the middle of your progression. I saw 10 - 18 dozens/columns streak a few times now. Its more common than you would think.

This is why you can't beat this game using mathematics/probability.It is A 100% fact that it will come crashing down when you least expect it. You have to realize the reality of this.

The house edge will always catch up with you.

At the end of the day, you have NO edge over the casino. Without that edge, whats the point? You can't beat em.

It took me a long time to get my head out of the sand to understand how to properly beat this game. Don't waste your time on any system that is based on outside betting.

Thank you for you concern my friend. But even strike of 10-18 in a row wont do me some damage playing this. i know how to prevent that. You are wrong about outside bets. there is now diference between in and out-side bets, if you are claiming so than you didnt study this game enough. And please tell me what is proper way to beat this game. And by that i dont think to tell me to visit links in your signature. And what about end of a day? i dont play this game whole day

In every your spin you are -2.7 behind roullete if you are going to look it at that way. And yes you can beat roulette with math, especialy with probability, but only to some point. I dont go further than that point. YOU CAN BEAT THIS GAME BUT YOU CANT CONQUER IT in longterm of course.

Regards
Drazen

ADulay · July 03, 2011, 11:15:31 AM

Quote from: psiho2209 on July 03, 2011, 04:05:10 AM
Yes, I wait next three in a row to hit same dozen, then start again from 1 unit.

Regards

Thanks. That's what I was asking about.

AD

ReDsQuaD · July 03, 2011, 02:45:35 PM

Quote from: psiho2209 on July 03, 2011, 10:21:43 AM
But even strike of 10-18 in a row wont do me some damage playing this. I know how to prevent that. You are wrong about outside bets

Please Don't insult my intelligence with that bullshit, YOU are wrong not me. You can't prevent it because of the ZERO.

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You are wrong about outside bets. there is no difference between in and out-side bets, if you are claiming so than you didnt study this game enough

Actually its the other way round. Any one who stated exactly what you just stated, tells me that they don't know what they are talking about.

If you looked at roulette from a physical perspective, you would soon realize there is every difference between outside bets and straight up numbers.

When I look at a roulette wheel, I don't see numbers, I see pockets with markings on each.

When you look at roulette, you don't know what you are looking for because you don't know it exists.

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And yes you can beat roulette with math, especialy with probability, but only to some point. I dont go further than that point. YOU CAN BEAT THIS GAME BUT YOU CANT CONQUER IT in longterm of course

I think that just tops it all off for you.t. I like how you say especially with probability

That does not make sense.

Beating roulette short term is not exactly beating roulette is it?. So how did you come to the conclusion that roulette is not possible to beat long term? You talk rubbish.

If you knew the truth behind roulette, you would know this game is beatable long term, of course it is. Any professional advantage player would know that roulette is beatable long term.

psiho2209 · July 03, 2011, 03:04:18 PM

I dont have time to argue with you, or i will. Of course i know how outside bets looks like when you put them around the wheel. And maybe i writte it wrong. I wanted to say that is possible to beat this game in longterm. Anything else is not matter. Advantage play is not only way how to beat this game btw.
Regards

ReDsQuaD · July 03, 2011, 03:51:20 PM

Quote from: psiho2209 on July 03, 2011, 03:04:18 PM
I dont have time to argue with you

No, its because you don't know what you are talking about and you cant answer me.

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Advantage play is not only way how to beat this game btw.
Regards

You obviously don't know the meaning of Advantage play. You have made your self look quite stupid in the last TWO posts.

Advantage play is not a method, it means you have a type of advantage to overcome the house edge.

mr green · July 03, 2011, 04:34:31 PM

Posting a system = Cat fights

ReDsQuaD · July 03, 2011, 04:40:31 PM

Quote from: mr green on July 03, 2011, 04:34:31 PM
Posting a system = Cat fights

It only turns into cat fights when the member is arrogant, tells you to do more research and accusing you of knowing zero about the game - when in fact it is they who needs to do discover the truth.

It pisses me off because it is disrespectful and insulting. Especially when they don't anything about you.

mr green · July 03, 2011, 04:46:07 PM

Go and get a glass of milk and just calm down, the worms can get to you I know.

mr green · July 03, 2011, 04:46:07 PM

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