An Idea? (Dont know if it has been mentioned before)

[rss]

Hi,
This is my first idea.. hope you ll be gentle!
I dont even know if this idea has been posted somewhere.

Well, after running a test on 1 million spins, the longest run of any of red/black high/low and odd/even  not showing was 25 spins. (eg. red not showing for 25 spins).

Now, considering that the wheel has really no 'brains', in reality this means that any 18 numbers can go to 25 spins max. without hitting. Thus, if one is to wait for 18 numbers not to hit, for , say, 20 spins and than start betting them, the chances of any of them hitting is much more, and using a small progression, or perhaps lanky's divisor, i think that it will profit in the long run.

What do you guys think?

PS: Before someone shouts at me, I know that the odds are the same and the past does not have a bearing. Everyone knows that mathematically roulette cannot be beaten. But Probability is the only help we can get. (eliminating VB and DS)

[rss]

Hi RSS,
I used to spend a lot of time trying to develop systems like that. THe problem is that by the time you have 20 in a row you are much nearer to getting 30 in a row. So 20 in a row happens very rarely, but you will have very few bets and 30 in a row could be just arround the corner.
Cheers,
Phil

i get your point.

thanks

[Shorty]

I wouldn't bet like this, think about what happens when 18 numbers sleep for 30 or even 40 spins.

[gizmotron]

I wouldn't bet like this, think about what happens when 18 numbers sleep for 30 or even 40 spins.

You have just described a situation where the law of thirds has suspended or is sleeping. Only a person that reads randomness can do that. Funny, I forgot to mention that you create your own devices that tell you that you understand a situation. So that leads you to acknowledging that you understand situational awareness. Funny,  I KEEP LEAVING OUT THE CLUES, BUT YOU GUYS KEEP SMASHING RIGHT INTO THEM!

[Shorty]

You have just described a situation where the law of thirds has suspended or is sleeping. Only a person that reads randomness can do that. Funny, I forgot to mention that you create your own devices that tell you that you understand a situation. So that leads you to acknowledging that you understand situational awareness. Funny,  I KEEP LEAVING OUT THE CLUES, BUT YOU GUYS KEEP SMASHING RIGHT INTO THEM!

People want a winning method handed to them, they aren't going to research or work hard for it.

[gizmotron]

People want a winning method handed to them, they aren't going to research or work hard for it.

And I spent ten years making mistakes in casinos, and starving to learn this stuff. I would accept cattle prodding people like the 'Magic Christian' situation where people will accept torture if they are given the road to bountiful by the easy path.

[winkel]

Now, considering that the wheel has really no 'brains', in reality this means that any 18 numbers can go to 25 spins max. without hitting. Thus, if one is to wait for 18 numbers not to hit, for , say, 20 spins and than start betting them, the chances of any of them hitting is much more, and using a small progression, or perhaps lanky's divisor, I think that it will profit in the long run.

What do you guys think?

that any 18 numbers can go to 25 spins max. without hitting.

This is the average: after 25 spins almost 18 or 19 numbers are unhit

Thus, if one is to wait for 18 numbers not to hit, for , say, 20 spins and than start betting them,

so If you have this situation you are on the wrong way. If in 20 spin "only" 18 number are unhit (that means 19! have hit and only 1 twice) it is more likely that now the hit numbers will appear a second or third time!

b
winkel

[rss]

People want a winning method handed to them, they aren't going to research or work hard for it.

i am not looking for a winning method to be handed to me. All i did was ask, as i know that there are members here who are much more experienced than me. So, instead of testing, i just asked. I guess there is nothing wrong with that no?

[rss]

so If you have this situation you are on the wrong way. If in 20 spin "only" 18 number are unhit (that means 19! have hit and only 1 twice) it is more likely that now the hit numbers will appear a second or third time!

b
winkel

hi winkel, thanks for your reply.

I understand your saying that there is more chance that the hit numbers will show again. But having 'slept' for 20 or so spins, doesn't the law of probability means that 1 of the unhit numbers is 'due'

I know this is gamblers fallacy, but if there was no laws of probability, than there would me no 'averages', as there would be complete randomness, which means that 18 numbers can remain unhit for hundreds of spins

[Homeito]

Hello,

Rss...

In the reference area I have enjoyed reading about just the things you talk about.
Here are two threads that deal with sequences in large number of spins.
They will show you that the more spins you add the longer sequences you will find:

nolinks://vlsroulette.com/reference-area/multi-million-spins-tests/
nolinks://vlsroulette.com/reference-area/12-million-rng-spin-stats-shared-by-poit/

This one was also very enlightening:
nolinks://vlsroulette.com/reference-area/it-will-not-happen-in-your-life-time!/

As I do not know much math I prefer such tables and the discussions around them instead of formulas.


Best regards,
Homeito Bemek

[VLSroulette]

I am not looking for a winning method to be handed to me.
...
I guess there is nothing wrong with that no?

Absolutely nothing wrong my friend, this is the way to go at the forum. We all are here to give each other a helping hand, later you will be capable of assisting the ones who come after you. The goal being to cooperate with each other with the results of past experiences (both positive as well as failed) to the point each is comfortable sharing; so yes, you did it the way to go and there is also the benefit it may help others with the same question too

Also, always remember:

In reality, there is no holy grail in the long run -as systems can easily be "bruteforced" with an endless stream of numbers until they break. Nevertheless, there are systems and betting methodologies which work better for some people over others, at a personal level, to the point of being profitable. That's what's important.

Best regards,
Victor

[Shorty]

I am not looking for a winning method to be handed to me. All I did was ask, as I know that there are members here who are much more experienced than me. So, instead of testing, I just asked. I guess there is nothing wrong with that no?

Sorry, I wasn't directing that at you. Just stating a fact to Gizmo because he is posting good stuff and most people don't bother to look at it.

[Shorty]

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