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Title: [Sushie's test] TwoCatSam's Holygrail
Post by: sushie on December 12, 2009, 04:33:08 PM
My first test on this forum huhu ^^. 
So a few days ago, I was visiting old forum of Vlsroulette and saw this method created by TwoCat about his holygrail. 
I did many tests on paper and it's seem to work well so I decide to test on Dublinbet Table with real money (only 0.  50$ per number.   It's little but I'am not rich like you guys ^^'). 

Here link of method: nolinks//:vlsroulette.  6.  forumer.  com/viewtopic.  php?t=78

It's a little complicated at start but when we read 3 times XD, it'll very easy and simple!
I modified at my way, for example, TwoCatSam plays when 31-34 come because these two numbers are in "two" but for me, I don't play it, I only play when the first number is on the same transversale that the second number! So 31-34 isn't in same transversale, I won't play it but if 34-35 come, it's both on same transversale so I start to bet!
I only play with "one"-"two" and odd-even not red-black, not high low. 

And I don't play when there are repeat nummbers, example:
12-12-11 come, it's on same transversale but has a repeat (12-12) so I won't play and wait for another signal. 
I stop at a win and always play 9 numbers for 4 spins until win (if there was a loss). 
No progression, always 0.  50$ per number like I said it precedently. 

I did my first real test today:

Table 2
Val
23
2
6
32
25
33
0
12
12
11 (12-12 repeater so I don't play)
11
34
30 "1" "even"
9 "2" odd
12 "2" even ( so We wan't a "1" and an odd)
23 "2" odd
24 "2" even
21 L -4.  50$
35 L -4.  50$
8 Win at third spin! ++13.  5$!
3
Dealer change Anna
21
32
18 1 E
18 1 E
25 1 O (so we want a 2 and a E)
7 2 O
8 2 E
33 L -4.  5$
10 Win at second spin! +13.  5$
10
Dealer change yet= Jan
31
7 2 O
4 1 E
34 2 E (so we want a 1 and an O)
32 2 E
31 2 O
14 L -4.  5$
35 L -4.  5$
21 L -4.  5$
25 Win at 4e spin! +13.  5$


Bilan: Total W: 3!
Total Lost: 0!
Starting bankroll: 117$ (yah I have only deposit 100$ a few month ago)
Ending bankroll: 135$. 
Profit: +18$

I stop played because I want to decorate christmas's fir with my family! <3
I'll test tomorow too!
See you!
Ah yeah, thanks to you TwoCatSam for this method! ^^
Title: Re: [Sushie's test] TwoCatSam's Holygrail
Post by: sushie on December 13, 2009, 06:00:21 PM
Another session today bad because i haven't bet the first time because it was sooooo long to wait for a signal that i close the roulette 1 and go to the roulette 2, but then i decide to rego to the roulette 1 and saw that i miss a signal and if i had betting, i would win on first spin, it had make me angry! >o<

Table 1
Alan

10
34
7
14
5
20
17
17
5
7
30
36
30 1
22 2
26 1 (so we want a 2 and a odd)
17 1
13 1
7 W + 13. 5$ on first spin! (i have missed the signal but i'll count it like a win for the test because it was just me who gone)
33 2
8 2 (so we want a 1 and a odd)
20 2
23 2----------2
35L -4. 5$ ---2
14 L -4. 5$ --1 (so we want a 2 and a odd)
19 L -4. 5$ --2
20 L -4. 5$ (and here there is another signal) 2
12 L-4. 5$
30 -4. 5$
30 L -4. 5$
9 W on 4e spin +13. 5$

PS: I re-change rule again:  did like TwoCat (bet even if it isn't on the same tansversale) because it was too long to wait for a transversale.

Total W: 2
Total L: 1
Starting bankroll= 135$
Ending bankroll= 135$ (so no win and no lost money).

I have stop because it was too long.
When I lost, I don't know if i must stop here or continue for recover the loss?
Because in reality, i have miss the first signal so now i have only 108$ and i was hesiting if must continue or not. . .
But if this system create by TwoCatSam is called Holygrail maybe i must continue because it has more win than loss?
Title: Re: [Sushie's test] TwoCatSam's Holygrail
Post by: sushie on December 14, 2009, 02:55:00 PM
I haven't write all numbers that spinned so I will only give results for today:

Win on third spin
Win on 4e spin
Lose (but if I continue, I would win at spin 5)
Win on first spin
Win on first spin
Win on 4 spin.

Total W: 5
Total L: 1
Starting bankroll= 108€
Ending bankroll= 121€.
Total profit= +13€.

I will continue testing I want to test another great system.
When I'll reach 200€, I'll start to play 1€ per number or maybe a progression.

Edit: Game for 12/15/09

Bad day, due to computer's bugs, I have restarted  Dublinbet many times and played later. I did 3 pauses so I break all games. So bad results: I lost 27€ and my bankroll is now only 94€... >o<

Tomorow, I'll do better!

Edit: session of 12/16/09:

Roulette 1 Lenka
36
31
24
10
23
33
21
25
26

21 L
0 L
33 L
9 L -18$
.
.
. (it's boing to write  numbers so i'll only write numbers when I bet).
35
28
12
17
19
20

0 L
34 W on 2nd spin. + 9$
1
5
7
29
30

18 Win on first spin. + 13.5$
5
13
36
34

26
17 L KATE
12 Win on second spin. +9$

Total Win= 3
Total Loss: 1.
Starting bankroll= 94€.
Ending bankroll= 103$.
Total prodit= +9$

I noticed that i never had two losses consecutives.
Maybe i will make a progression after a loss for the next signal.
This method is a good method because we can recover loss but it's verryyyy long to wait for a signal!
Yesterday, i wait during 1h30 for only 4 bets! >o<
Title: Re: [Sushie's test] TwoCatSam's Holygrail
Post by: trylobit on December 21, 2009, 09:23:26 PM
Hi sushie!

What do you mean, by saying: "So 31-34 isn't in same transversale, I won't play it but if 34-35 come, it's both on same transversale so I start to bet!" ?

br
trylobit
Title: Re: [Sushie's test] TwoCatSam's Holygrail
Post by: Ulysses on December 22, 2009, 10:19:53 AM
Quote from: sushie on December 14, 2009, 02:55:00 PM
This method is a good method because we can recover loss but it's verryyyy long to wait for a signal!
Yesterday, I wait during 1h30 for only 4 bets! >o<

What's the rush Sookie!

Patience is the mind set to adopt in my experience.

P.S. Twocats should retract the holy grail statement and rename it "holy minimal profit margins" only joking  :)
Title: Re: [Sushie's test] TwoCatSam's Holygrail
Post by: trylobit on December 22, 2009, 02:04:43 PM
What do you do when triggers overlap?

Like this:

Spin   Nr   |B/R|   |E/O|   |H/L|   |1/2|   Line
 1   22   B   E   H   2   4
 2   21   R   O   H   2   4
 3   31   B   O   H   2   6
 4   12   R   E   L   2   2
 5   12   R   E   L   2   2
 6   10   B   E   L   2   2
 7   12   R   E   L   2   2
 8   36   R   E   H   2   6
 9   33   B   O   H   2   6
10   5     R   O   L   1   1
11   21   R   O   H   2   4
12   5     R   O   L   1   1
13   26   B   E   H   1   5

Spins 5, 6 and 7 is giving trigger to bet Odd 2, and then spin 9 again is giving trigger to bet Odd 2.

Are you adding up bets, or just keeping bets without adding on more chips?
Title: Re: [Sushie's test] TwoCatSam's Holygrail
Post by: trylobit on December 22, 2009, 05:30:09 PM
Would anyone please verify if I'm playing correctly?

Br.
Trylobit
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Title: Re: [Sushie's test] TwoCatSam's Holygrail
Post by: sushie on December 24, 2009, 05:32:18 PM
Hello

If numbers overlap, I don't count it, I always keep the same bet.

By "So 31-34 isn't in same transversale, I won't play it but if 34-35 come, it's both on same transversale so I start to bet!"  I mean:

(here layout)
31.32.33 ( a transversale)
34.35.36 (another transversale)

I  only play when two numbers of a transversale come.

Trylobit, you did some errors on your bets:

Spin 42, you must bet 1.3.5.13.15.17.25.27.29 because the 32 in spin 40 are in "twos" so you must bet on "ones".
Spin 58, must bet on: 8.10.12.20.22.24.32.34.36 because 1 on spin 56 is in "ones" so you want a "twos".

But even iff you didn'tmake these errors, you would lost too...
Hope you understand! ^^

I did some more tests, all great results and I always stop at +10€.
So in 5 days, my bankroll was 103€, now it's 157€.
Great system, thanks to you TwoCatSam ^^.

Merry christmas and happy new year to all players! <3

PS: you are right Ulysse, Patience is the key to win with this system!
Title: Re: [Sushie's test] TwoCatSam's Holygrail
Post by: trylobit on December 25, 2009, 08:28:49 AM
I must have misunderstood the rules.
So when trigger hits. you play against E/O and against 1/2 from thw spins before

example

11  2 O
34  2 E
35  2 O

Now bet 1 E?

Merry Christmas!
Title: Re: [Sushie's test] TwoCatSam's Holygrail
Post by: sushie on December 26, 2009, 06:57:59 PM
Yes, it's that Trylobit ^^.

I have play this method yesterday in journey (normally, i only plai at night, i was playing on table 2 and for the first time, i had two losses consecutives snif snif.
Playing in jounrey with table 2 make me unlucky ^^.
I knew this would happens a day but it has "depressed" me too so i stopped play.
But noticed that if i play on R/B instead of O/E, i would have win two times instead of losing...
So maybe i change the rule and playing R/B...
But i don't know if i really want to continue testing this system, it's very long for me and i don't have much time.... and i want to test my method so...
Brief, i'd see that.
Title: Re: [Sushie's test] TwoCatSam's Holygrail
Post by: trylobit on December 26, 2009, 08:11:32 PM
I've got mixed results with this system...
Playing only o/e.

I lost 100 units few time...
Title: Re: [Sushie's test] TwoCatSam's Holygrail
Post by: sushie on December 27, 2009, 04:29:05 PM
Arf 100 units?!
Sorry to read that man...
But what happens?
How many winnings and losing bets have you got?
And do you play with 0.50c, 1$ , ect?
Title: Re: [Sushie's test] TwoCatSam's Holygrail
Post by: trylobit on December 27, 2009, 06:10:15 PM
I played at dublinbet, no real money.

I had maybe 3 winnings and all late ones (3rd or 4th bet).
Unfortunately I didn't save the numbers anywhere...
Title: Re: [Sushie's test] TwoCatSam's Holygrail
Post by: sushie on December 27, 2009, 06:57:40 PM
3 winnings and how many loss?
Have you played on real table?
Title: Re: [Sushie's test] TwoCatSam's Holygrail
Post by: trylobit on December 27, 2009, 09:55:21 PM
Yes, I played on a real table.
Losses... I don't know, but it was enough to hit -99 units.

If I hit something like that again I will post it here, so that we can analyse it.

br
trylobit
Title: Re: [Sushie's test] TwoCatSam's Holygrail
Post by: sushie on December 28, 2009, 03:47:55 PM
Ok, at next sessions, try to see if you can recover your losses, afterward, all systems have their bad days ^^'.