TwoCat tests the bot on casino account #1

[TwoCatSam]

OK

Here's the deal.  Each trot I will post the draw down (depth into the bankroll) and the high and the number of spins it took to get there.  The high will always be around 10 E higher than the previous high.  The draw downs will vary according to how the wind blew on that particular trot.  On this first post, I started at 390 Euro.  I am betting .02 per spin and the bot bets every spin.

Here goes:

[table=,]
DATE,,,DRAW DOWN,,,HIGH,,,SPINS USED
6.15.9.1,,,30,,,400,,,2087
[/table]

Victor,

What happened to the "chart" feature that graphed our tests?

Sam

[vix]

I'll be following you with this Sam, GOOD LUCK 

Vix

[TwoCatSam]

[table=,]
DATE,,,DRAW DOWN,,,HIGH,,,SPINS USED
6.15.9.1,,,30,,,400,,,2087
6.16.9.1,,,23,,,410,,,2050
[/table]

vix

Thanks.

Sam

[MattyMattz]

Good luck Sam

Matty

[TwoCatSam]

Matty

Thanks for those good wishes. 

In keeping with the gist of my rant posted today, I intend (with the owner's permission) to make a video of the bot earning 10 Euro.  I will not show where the bets are placed but only the Euro amount as it goes up and down.  I am making the video now--just need permission and I will post it soon.

I find it hard to imagine anyone could suspect me of faking this video as the Euro amounts change every few seconds.  (Some probably will!)  What I hope to show is that it goes up and then down and then wins 10 Euro for the trot.

My units are pennies and I am up 31,420 of them.  Imagine that being dimes and then dollars.  Imagine a hundred casinos where you could play.  Imagine a bot so sophisticated that it mimics human play perfectly so as to be undetectable.

Imagine my wife saying, "Why isn't the bot running?"

Sam

[celiza427]

Wow, 31,000 units is incredible.     Definitely interested in seeing how this test goes.  Good luck to ya!

[Fraudster]

what exactly is ' the bot' ? super roulette?

or one of you're own custom systems coded into a bot?

what casino are you playing it at?

playtech too??

rng or live?

sorry for all the q's - im just interested

[TwoCatSam]

This bot is the creation of Matt and Tiago2.  I am only testing it and have been for a couple of months.  It works only at Bet Voyager non-zero RNG casino.  Soon this version will hopefully work in other casinos.

Sam

[TwoCatSam]

Very good trot of numbers:

[table=,]
DATE,,,DRAW DOWN,,,HIGH,,,SPINS USED
6.15.9.1,,,30,,,400,,,2087
6.16.9.1,,,23,,,410,,,2050
6.16.9.2,,,7,,,420.62,,,1672
[/table]

[TwoCatSam]

[table=,]
DATE,,,DRAW DOWN,,,HIGH,,,SPINS USED
6.15.9.1,,,30,,,400,,,2087
6.16.9.1,,,23,,,410,,,2050
6.16.9.2,,,7,,,420.62,,,1672
6.16.9.3,,,1.06,,,430.10,,,1268
[/table]

Below is a graph of today's third session.  (I played too much today!  Made 30 Euro.  Too much.)  Note how I only went down 1.06 in the beginning but had a large drop later on about about spin 950 or so.  One can never tell where the dip may come, if at all.

Sam

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[TwoCatSam]

OK, I've had another major loss and I've been slow reporting it.  Here is why.

While in Arizona and California I noticed the bot running very slowly.  I went from 400 E down to 150E and I blamed the slow play for this.  When I got home, the speed was great and I zipped back up to 430 Euro in just a few days.  Then it hit the fan.

I began having very slow response from Bet Voyager.  Other bot users did, too.  Normally it takes about 3 seconds from the time the bot clicks "spin" for the number to be selected.  This time varies from 3 up to 40 and more seconds.  Sometimes the ball does not drop at all and the BV disconnects you.  Here in lies the problem.

In one night, the bot stopped numerous times.  My wife and I would get up and start it over.  When I was down $54 I almost cut if off, but didn't.  I (and she) continued to re-start the bot.  You must understand, this is new technology and I am cutting through the underbrush, so to speak.  It is easy to look back and say I should have quit; it much more difficult to do that while betting.  Anyway, I lost all 430 Euro, so I am actually down now 200 Euro.

Since my trip to California, the bot has undergone several updates.  I am not the least bit down on the settings I was using.  I am learning and this is the way you learn.

At home, the bot runs very erratic due--not to the bot or Bet Voyager--but due to the internet connection I have.  Sometimes it is very slow; sometimes fast.  I had the same problem a few months ago and could not even log onto this forum.

If anyone shows any interest I will continue to post my results--good or bad--and go forward.  Herb could be right:  I just hit the big downturn that is always out there.  If that is so, a stop loss of around 50 Euro will take care of it nicely.  The bot will run about a hundred sessions to the good for the one it tosses that is bad.  So you lose 50 and spend five days recovering.  It's the end of the month that counts.

Sam

[Number Six]

Anyway, I lost all 430 Euro, so I am actually down now 200 Euro.

These types of bots cannot win you money...which I believe I pointed out WELL before you were €200 down.
Bots are a convenient illusion scammers use to prey on laziness and desperation.

I'm slightly sorry for your loss. The software is junk. How can something that is destined to lose miraculously be transformed into a winner just through automation? Automation is a gimmick that only means you'll lose quicker.

[Marven]

These types of bots cannot win you money...which I believe I pointed out WELL before you were €200 down.
Bots are a convenient illusion scammers use to prey on laziness and desperation.

I'm slightly sorry for your loss. The software is junk. How can something that is destined to lose miraculously be transformed into a winner just through automation? Automation is a gimmick that only means you'll lose quicker.

I second that.
Bots = Loss

[TwoCatSam]

Number 6

You know, Bro, just because you "pointed out" something to me doesn't mean I accept your pointings-out! 

Let's talk bots.  Matt from Australia paid Tiago2 to create a bot with his ideas contained within.  Another person, a member of this forum, came up with another idea.  This idea has been bandied about by some very well-respected members of this forum.  This person shared with Matt his idea and Matt paid Tiago to program the bot to use it.  My  point?  There are some quite well-respected brains working on this project.  If I am a fool, I am in good company!

The bot does nothing but what it is programmed to do.  Time will tell if this person's idea has merit or falls by the wayside. 

Number 6, you may rest assured that when this bot no longer holds my fascination I will move on to something that does.  For the moment I find it quite interesting and am in contact with far more bot users than you might believe! 

I'm glad you're "almost sorry" for my loss.  I almost believe you!

Don't take this as too much of an insult, but as long as I'm on the loosing side you will believe my posts.  If I said I had won two or three thousand and posted screen shots to back it up, you would probably accuse me of using Photo shop.  It would seem that you have made up your mind on this subject and that is your prerogative.

Good to hear from you.

Sam

[super-roulette]

Number6 I find your comments offensive and full of ignorance. A number of times you have said you can't be bothered discussing the merits of an automated roulette tool, but then you jump at any opportunity that arises to take a cheap shot at me and the software.

You say as a matter of fact that automated bots can not win you money. Does not the fact that Sam was able to take his balance from 100E to over 400E twice not prove that the BOT does win you money? Sam achieved this not with one lucky session, but with sustained settings over a number of weeks. Like any form of money making efforts, money management is imperative - even the most experienced advantage players or the most advanced predictive, roulette computers dont win every session, losses will come and there needs to be an allowance for their occurrence. Even card counters can have runs where they drop 1000s of units (yes 1000s) but they persist because they know in the long term they have an edge. Taking one loss in isolation and claiming the software is "junk" is simply unfair and I take comments like this personally. I and others have spent countless hours on firstly developing and later refining the software so that now it is even more robust than when it was first release. I win consistently when I use it (every night while I sleep) and others on the private forum are having similiar (some spectacular) results

The stratey Sam was employing is based on certain events always occurring over a set of continuous spins, however he lost connection to BV five times during this run which messes horribly with the logic of how the system works. Each time he re-connected he was presented with a new set of numbers. It would be akin to you sitting down at a live wheel, tracking 200 spins, discovering a trend that is bettable (using any number of advantage techniques) then when your back is turned someone swaps the wheel and you wonder why you lose. This is one area of running the software that I have no control over and it can cause issues - internet connectivity, both from the host; BV and the player in this case Sam's home internet connection. I personally don't have too many issues, sometimes it will lose connection, and if this does happen,I will just take my medicine (if I am down at the time) and close the software, completely logout and start again..

I have the feeling you think the software is simply a primitive tool that waits for X category to miss a number of times and then start a simple martingale type progression - this could not be further from the truth. I know you are very familiar with the "law of the third" and do you know that this applies to any cycle of 37 spins, even RNG? (well in BV case it is 36 spins). One of the betting systems within the BOT is based on this premise, can be played either flat bet or played with a progression and does very well. In fact I use it along with AI (artificial intelligence), this system actually thinks like a human (no wait, even faster than a human) and has the ability to calculate standard deviation and zscore values for over 3000 patterns during a session. I am not sure how familiar you are with binomial distribution but it can be a powerful allie when used correctly, especially in an even chance game. In fact the BOT adapts to the flow of the game and the way the numbers are coming out, and bases it betting on opportunities as the trends of the game emerge - the level of risk and pattern lengths to track are completely configurable by the user as is the sample of spins to track...is this mechanical? most certainly not.

AI is at the cutting edge of giving the player an advantage for an even chance RNG game and it was devleoped thanks to the input from members in the private forum. Have you heard of the saying "strength in numbers"? The private forum is a vibrant place full of ideas and vigourous discussion. People who have bought the software see its enormous potential and want to help develop it even futher - do you still think this is a SCAM?

Ohh I thought I should add, we have a demo version working well with Smart Live Casino and we are close to having Dublinbet ready. The inside number system (based on the law of the third) works even better on the live wheel. We will also incorporate the ability to track wheel bias for 1000s of spins and save them back to a central online database, so the results can be called up for a session as required. Plus another user has contributed a wonderful strategy based on betting wheel sectors. WOW and all this can be automated - who would have thought eh?  

Hey, you know what?...I think our software will be more human like than even humans!

Matt

[super-roulette]

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