Training to Adapt

[MATTJONO]

Hi guys I decided after reading recent posts on the forum im going to try test my roulette knowlage so far and see if I can improve my results as I go along at adapting to what the wheel is doing. (as I always say practice makes perfect) but as I also know that roulette nothing is ever perfect.

my first test was playing on differnt size sectors, trying to bet a sector or 2 sectors of the wheel that I THINK will become hot for a while.


you may laugh abit and find it hard to understand my betting but i hope you do because I do sometimes when I find it alot easyier to play without the real wheel environment which surley makes a difference.

33   
24   
19   
13   
29   
4   flatbet for 6 spins32-2 and 1-5 (11)
5   win +25
4   win +25
14   lose -11
25   lose -11
20   lose -11
1   decided to carry on until lose 6 in a row win +25
25   lose -11
21   win +25
9   lose -11
24   win +25
12   lose -11
5   win +25
30   lose -11
12   lose -11
11   keepins an eye on 12 and 30 sectors -11
19   win +25
6   lose -11
33   win +25
20   lose -11
28   lose -11
10   lose -11
24   win +25
31   lose -11
33   win +25
28   lose -11
27   lose -11
33   win +25
15   lose -11
24   win +25
24   win +25
24   win +25
24   WOW --win +25
25   lose -11
21   win +25
6   lose -11
36   lose -11
13   lose -11
18   lose -11
36   looking at secotr near around 13,36 -11
13   lose -11
11   o.k seems strong and maybe abit late but playing secotr 34-23secotr for 6 spins to see if keeping hot
2   lose -9
5   lose 9
30   win +27
30   win +27
3   lose -9
7   o.k ill carry on until lose 6 bets in a row (2lost already)  lose -9
35   looking at 55past before 0    -9
6   win +27
26   o.k seems stong ill play a 18 number bet until I lose 3 bets in a row two 9 sectors 29-32 and 34-23      -9
9   lose -18
3   win +18
35   win +18
9   lose -18
5   o.k sector 34-23 hasnt hit in 6 taking off and just playing 29-32 until lose 6 in a row lost 2 already -18
22   lose -9
27   lose -9
19   lose -9
27   ENDED SESSION HERE---    lose -9
35   
34   
8   
1   
26   
4   
10   
   
starting bankroll 200units.

highest bankroll 402units.

ending bankroll 309units (+109)


mattjono

[MATTJONO]

the problem is when to stop betting a sector and when to jump to another making sure you have made the most of the oppatunity. but i guess its all down to the amount of numbers your betting and the amount of profit/loss you have made in the past spins.

[MATTJONO]

Below is the results for the spins 04/10/2006 from a live casino.


flatbetting + 432units

w   24   24
w   24   48
w   24   72
l   -12   60
l   -12   48
w   24   72
l   -12   60
w   24   84
w   24   108
l   -12   96
l   -12   84
l   -12   72
w   24   96
l   -12   84
l   -12   72
w   24   96
w   24   120
l   -12   108
w   24   132
w   24   156
l   -12   144
l   -12   132
l   -12   120
w   24   144
l   -12   132
w   24   156
l   -12   144
l   -12   132
l   -12   120
l   -12   108
w   24   132
l   -12   120
l   -12   108
l   -12   96
l   -12   84
w   24   108
w   24   132
w   24   156
w   24   180
l   -12   168
l   -12   156
l   -12   144
l   -12   132
l   -12   120
l   -12   108
l      108
l      108
l      108
l      108
l      108
l      108
w      108
w   24   132
l   -12   120
w   24   144
l   -12   132
w   24   156
w   24   180
w   24   204
l   -12   192
w   24   216
l   -12   204
l   -12   192
l   -12   180
w   24   204
l   -12   192
w   24   216
l   -12   204
w   24   228
l   -12   216
l   -12   204
l   -12   192
l   -12   180
w   24   204
w   24   228
w   24   252
w   24   276
l   -12   264
l   -12   252
w   24   276
l   -12   264
w   24   288
l   -12   276
l   -12   264
l   -12   252
l   -12   240
l   -12   228
w   24   252
l   -12   240
l   -12   228
l   -12   216
l   -12   204
w   24   228
l   -12   216
w   24   240
l   -12   228
l   -12   216
l   -12   204
w   24   228
l   -12   216
l   -12   204
l   -12   192
w   24   216
w   24   240
l   -12   228
l   -12   216
l   -12   204
l   -12   192
l   -12   180
l   -12   168
l      168
l      168
l      168
w   24   192
w   24   216
l   -12   204
w   24   228
l   -12   216
w   24   240
l   -12   228
l   -12   216
l   -12   204
w   24   228
l   -12   216
l   -12   204
w   24   228
l   -12   216
l   -12   204
l   -12   192
w   24   216
l   -12   204
l   -12   192
l   -12   180
l   -12   168
l   -12   156
l   -12   144
l      144
l      144
l      144
w      144
w   24   168
l   -12   156
w   24   180
l   -12   168
l   -12   156
w   24   180
w   24   204
l   -12   192
w   24   216
w   24   240
l   -12   228
l   -12   216
w   24   240
l   -12   228
w   24   252
w   24   276
w   24   300
l   -12   288
l   -12   276
l   -12   264
w   24   288
l   -12   276
w   24   300
l   -12   288
w   24   312
w   24   336
l   -12   324
l   -12   312
l   -12   300
l   -12   288
l   -12   276
w   24   300
w   24   324
l   -12   312
l   -12   300
l   -12   288
l   -12   276
l   -12   264
l   -12   252
w      252
w   24   276
l   -12   264
l   -12   252
l   -12   240
w   24   264
l   -12   252
w   24   276
l   -12   264
l   -12   252
w   24   276
w   24   300
l   -12   288
l   -12   276
l   -12   264
l   -12   252
w   24   276
l   -12   264
w   24   288
l   -12   276
w   24   300
l   -12   288
l   -12   276
l   -12   264
w   24   288
w   24   312
l   -12   300
w   24   324
w   24   348
l   -12   336
w   24   360
w   24   384
w   24   408
w   24   432
l   -12   420
w   24   444
l   -12   432
l   -12   420
l   -12   408
l   -12   396
l   -12   384
w   24   408
l   -12   396
l   -12   384
w   24   408
l   -12   396
l   -12   384
w   24   408
w   24   432
l   -12   420
l   -12   408
l   -12   396
l   -12   384
w   24   408
w   24   432
w   24   456
l   -12   444
w   24   468
w   24   492
l   -12   480
l   -12   468
l   -12   456
w   24   480
w   24   504
w   24   528
l   -12   516
l   -12   504
l   -12   492
l   -12   480
l   -12   468
w   24   492
w   24   516
l   -12   504
l   -12   492
l   -12   480
w   24   504
l   -12   492
l   -12   480
w   24   504
l   -12   492
l   -12   480
w   24   504
w   24   528
l   -12   516
l   -12   504
w   24   528
l   -12   516
w   24   540
l   -12   528
l   -12   516
l   -12   504
l   -12   492
l   -12   480
w   24   504
l   -12   492
w   24   516
l   -12   504
l   -12   492
l   -12   480
w   24   504
l   -12   492
l   -12   480
l   -12   468
l   -12   456
l   -12   444
w   24   468
l   -12   456
l   -12   444
l   -12   432
w   24   456
w   24   480
l   -12   468
l   -12   456
l   -12   444
l   -12   432
l   -12   420
l   -12   408
l      408
l      408
l      408
w      408
w   24   432
l   -12   420
l   -12   408
w   24   432
w   24   456
l   -12   444
w   24   468
w   24   492
w   24   516
l   -12   504
l   -12   492
l   -12   480
l   -12   468
w   24   492
l   -12   480
w   24   504
l   -12   492
l   -12   480
l   -12   468
l   -12   456
w   24   480
l   -12   468
w   24   492
l   -12   480
l   -12   468
l   -12   456
l   -12   444
l   -12   432

[Bateman]

Mattjono, it is dangerous to bet sectors that aren't very active or sleeping. They may be inactive for all sorts of reasons that are not related to randomness. Your best course of action is to follow the dominance and attack it until it has faded. It is also OK to bet 2x9 number sectors. If you can identify the dominance and stick with it you won't have to worry about your hit rate dropping below 50%, meaning you will end the attack in [substantial] profit. 12 number sectors work for some techniques, but not others. You may find 9 numbers more effective. Don't use progressions. If you do, you will end up with a system that is no better than anything else mechanical. The point of adaptation is to increase the hit rate of your bets enough to rule out the need for progressions. ALWAYS use flat bets in your testing from now on. When you begin to think that a progression is needed, it is time to forget that way and try something else. Mostly these things involve a lot of self-discovery and you are on the right track.   

Bateman  

[MATTJONO]

thanks bateman,  for all the advice I do take it al in.  

for the test above I was playing a 12 number bet for a spacific number of spins then retracked and pick a new 12 to attack.
the way I chose my 12 numbers where from the hot parts of the wheel. and I will always stay well clear of progressions until needs be.

I have been threw hand around 700 live spins playing only wheel secters and I think ill chill out for abit know with the testing but hay ill learn my attack inside out so I can place the 12 chips without looking at data or tracking spins.

MATTJONO

[MATTJONO]

quick test i just did to see how long it took me to make +100units flatbetting
   
picking between 6 and 12 numbers depending on whats happening at the wheel and playing the same numbers for 7 spins then changing the bet selection

   0
l   -9   -9
l   -9   -18
l   -9   -27
w   27   0
l   -9   -9
l   -9   -18
w   27   9
l   -9   0
l   -9   -9
l   -9   -18
w   27   9
l   -9   0
w   27   27
l   -9   18
l   -6   12
l   -6   6
w   30   36
l   -6   30
l   -6   24
l   -6   18
w   30   48
l   -6   42
l   -6   36
l   -6   30
l   -6   24
l   -6   18
w   30   48
l   -6   42
l   -8   34
l   -8   26
l   -8   18
w   28   46
w   28   74
l   -8   66
l   -8   58
w   27   85
l   -9   76
l   -9   67
w   27   94
l   -9   85
w   27   112


48spins +112


mattjono

[MATTJONO]

      
for this 100 spin test I always had a 3 spin break inbetween bet selections.  I also stopped betting after 6 losses in a row and waited for a virtual win.
      
      
           0
w   27   27
w   27   54
l   -9   45
w   27   72
w   27   99
l   -9   90
           90
          90
          90
l   -9   81
l   -9   72
l   -9   63
l   -9   54
l   -9   45
l         45
         45
         45
          45
w      45
w   27   72
w   27   99
w   27   126
l   -9   117
l   -9   108
         108
         108
         108
w   27   135
l   -9   126
w   27   153
w   27   180
l   -9   171
l   -9   162
         162
         162
         162
l   -9   153
w   27   180
w   27   207
l   -9   198
l   -9   189
l   -9   180
         180
         180
         180
l   -9   171
l   -9   162
w   27   189
l   -9   180
w   27   207
l   -9   198
         198
         198
         198
l   -9   189
w   27   216
l   -9   207
l   -9   198
l   -9   189
l   -9   180
l   -9   171
l   -9   162
l          162
l          162
l          162
l          162
           162
           162
           162
w           162
l   -9   153
w   27   180
w   27   207
l   -9   198
l   -9   189
          189
          189
          189
l   -9   180
l   -9   171
w   27   198
l   -9   189
l   -9   180
l   -9   171
w   27   198
         198
         198
         198
l   -9   189
l   -9   180
w   27   207
l   -9   198
l   -9   189
l   -9   180



I enjoy testing like this having all the next spins in white so I cannot see them.
And listening to long trance tracks as I go on and on with my testing  

[MATTJONO]

Still cannot figue out how i show the graph on the messgae but i have attached it below anyway if anyone wants a look.

the 600spins test is all flatbetting however i had 10 sepeate attacks of 6 spins using 2 units for a recovery stage and it seems to work great.

mattjono

[MATTJONO]

-2 weeks testing by hand
-1300 spins
-697 total bets placed
-108 bets where at 2 units
-589 bets where at 1 unit
-total profit =  +1818 units

i have attached the graph to show you the ups and well ''downs''. 

cheers
mattjono

P.S  if anyone can somehow copy the graph and show it on here as a message that would be great.

[Number Six]

Here is your graph.

[caddy]

Matt,

What sector selection method are you using?

[MATTJONO]

Matt,

What sector selection method are you using?

Hi caddy,


no spacific rules. i chosen numbers from areas of the wheel ''I'' BELIEVED WILL hit more often than it should in the next 6 spins.
I only ever attacked for 6 spins with a bet selcetion of 9 numbers.


0 hits = -54units
1 hit  =  -18units
2 hits = +27units
3 hits = +63units
4 hits = +90units
5 hits = +126units
6 hits = +162units


mattjono

[MATTJONO]

would you ov been as exited as I was when I got these results for the first 60 spins of my testing of a 9 sector attacking for 6 spins.


4      
9      
3      
14      
5      
31   (33-29)   
0      l
18      w
34      l
22      w
22      w
29      w
23      
11      
5   (12-14) + (24,13)   
5      w
28      w
34      l
33      l
26      l
23      w
11      
16      
33   (11-33)   
33      w
32      l
33      w
33      w
34      l
11      w
17      
25      
12   (11-2)   
8      l
17      w
5      l
25      w
35      l
16      l
36      
20      
2   (11-2)   
14      l
17      w
5      l
3      l
15      l
10      l
27      
31      
29   wait   
18      
13   (5-6)   
8      w
30      w
30      w
10      w
6      w
21      l
31      


60 spins + 306units (flatbet)


MATTJONO


P.S maybe I could track the last 6 spins play a sector of 6 pockets and bet that sector for 6 spins and call it the 6-6-6 system  

[MATTJONO]

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