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New strategy to be tested

Started by jimenez, August 18, 2009, 08:57:22 AM

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jimenez

I woul like to post a new strategy if someone can test it .
Any volunteer around?

Thanks

sniper

Hello jimenez,

Please post it and we will all test it out.

Regards

sniper

jimenez

The method is applied to Columns  and Dozens :

Analizing  those Chances  after every spin we get 4 differetn conditions (without considering  zero):

SS: Both Dozen and  Column  are similar to the previous one  (S=Same), there are 4 possible numbers.
DS: The Dozen is different to the previous one (D = Different)but the  Column  is similar (S=Same),there are 8 possible numbers.
SD: The Dozen is similar  but the  Column  is different, there are 8 possible numbers.
DD: Both are different from the previous spins,there are 16 possible numbers.

The system consists to play the combination  SS, with only one piece on each chance.
So we get these results:

Dozen.........Column..............Result...............Probabillity (with no Zero)

...S..............S....................+4 pieces..................4/36 [ 11.1% ]

...S..............D....................+1 piece....................8/36 [ 22.2% ]

...D..............S....................+1 piece....................8/36 [ 22.2% ]

...D..............D....................-2 pieces...................16/36 [ 44.4% ]


We will get , at this stage a 55.6%  probability of sucess or winning attack againts the probability of losing of  44.4%.
In a  cycle of  9 boules we should have : 1 SS, 2 DS, 2 SD, 4 DD.


The moment to bet could be chosen  ,as usual , according a personal game style.
I suggest to play the SS combination after a long series of 3 boules on DD .

So I will ask someone to to test it after we got 3 consecutive DD


for example:

C--D

S-D
S-S
D-D
S-D
D-D
D-D
S-D
D-S
S-D
D-D
D-D
D-D

S-D..................................here I will bet
S-D
D-S
D-D
S-S
S-D
D-D
S-D
D-D
S-S

I would like to know how many times a DD series can appears  and how long can be  ..

Thank you for the attention.






TwoCatSam

jimenez

This is a very interesting idea.  Since I'm doing a study at the Bet Voyager non-zero wheel, I will have a casual look into it.

Your little man beating himself bloody was so distracting I had to put a post-it note over him!

Thanks for the system.

Samster

jimenez

I have another strategy to post and to be tested :

Since this is an old file written in italian the signs that belong to chances are not modified but I wrote  a short note to explain it.

Every 3  boules  we write the relative figure or pattern or combination (call it as you like)
It is formed by   N/D , P/D  and A/B where  N is  nero(Black) R =rosso (red) , P =Pari and D=Dispari  (Even and Odd) and   A- Alto(' Manque) B = Basso (Passe).
We will consider ONLY the Color (N/R) and  P/D (Even and Odd) on the first 2 positions .
The last term will be composed by all 3 chances


If we get the  combination NP-NP-RDA we have to search for the next one that begin with NP-NP and bet on RDA...If RDB comes out we will win 1 piece..

On the excell an example where  the betting occasions are illustrated with the same color that indicates the ripetition of the  figure
I forgot to mention that on the excel sheet there is the  second session of the opposites figures
so NP-RD-RDA below there is written its opposite (RD-NP-NPB)


I would like to test it as well
Thanks to the programmer that can do it.

jimenez


Jeromin

Quote from: jimenez on August 18, 2009, 08:58:31 PM

So I will ask someone to to test it after we got 3 consecutive DD

I would like to know how many times a DD series can appears  and how long can be  ..

Thank you for the attention.



Well, I downloaded a file from the actuals section,
Wiesbaden T#3 Spins 01.04.2003 - 31.12.2008

I labeled the first one thousand results. It was done by hand, there might be a few mistakes, but I was careful, so it should not be too bad.
This is what I get:

3xD: 28
4xD: 16
5xD: 2  
6xD: 1
7xD: 1

I ignored the zero when counting the number of repeats.


jimenez

Thank you Jeromin for your effort. :good:
Only once I met the same 7xD in a real Casino so far.
1000 spins are not enough, I know that by hand it takes ages but thank you anyway. :ok:


Jeromin

You're welcome, Jimenez. The way I see it, from my experience in very regular, mechanical roulette wheels, with no dealer, one thousand spins is good enough for me. Weird occurrences ( seemingly weird, that is, to a pattern seeking mind dealing with randomness ) and large imbalances don't last more than a hundred spins or so. At least on the systems I've tried so far.
I found interesting the large drop from 4xD to 5xD, seems like a betting opportunity for me. I still have to print it out and go over it, but the SS don't always come soon after a 3xD+ event. I haven t tested it yet for flat bet. Could you elaborate on the full betting strategy so I can test it?

Jeromin

I looked at the payoff of the said 1000 spin series. Betting on SS after DD DD DD, stopping on either SS or two DD ( or DD 0, 0 DD, 0 0 ), it starts positive but end the 1000 spins  with -12. A 3xDD is more often followed by DD than by SS. In fact a common pattern is: DD SD DS DD DD, that is -2 +1 +1 -2 -2. I haven't tried any progression, or stopping after 2 SS, etc.
I was expecting some sort of adjustment, as when a long succession of 3rd dozens is followed by predominantly first and second dozen ( I see it more often than not, again, on mechanical roulette. So much for gambler's fallacy ). But, at least on this limited sample, the SS and long DD series appear uncorrelated.

jimenez

Quote from: Jeromin on August 21, 2009, 09:31:58 AM
I haven 't  tested it yet for flat bet. Could you elaborate on the full betting strategy so I can test it?
what do you mean for flat bets, how do you do on them?
Maybe you were thinking about Initial and final terms of the numbers?

like 26-31-11-13-34-12

we have

Initial=2-3-1-1-3-1
Final=3-1-1-3-1-2


so we can have

I-F

D-D
S-D
D-S
D-D
D-D

considering the 01 -02-03-04- etc. as 31-32-33-34-Initial =3---final=1-2-3-1...


Quote from: Jeromin on August 21, 2009, 09:31:58 AM
Could you elaborate on the full betting strategy so I can test it?

...I don't understand this question..

jimenez

Jeromin,
Betting on SS after DD DD DD, a 3xDD is more often followed by DD than by SS.
Ok I know that but we don't care about if SS come out or not (if yes it will be ok , of course).
What is important is to get one of the S..So after 3xDD if we get SD or DS is always a winning piece.

We don't need to play after one SS or two SS ..
For what I played so far on real Casinos the SS will be always a rare event comparing with DD series.

The flaw of this game is very slow like the R8.

But to play these 2 methods as I said on the other post tracking the spins on two different tables can help a little bit.
I have tried to find a solution applying the DD series on even chances but I 'm still stuck since they are different.

Jeromin

So betting on SS once, or continuously till getting SS? In the latter case, stopping after two DD spins in a row, after a 1000 spins it  was up for a bit, though not much and ended -12. I haven't checked only one bet and stop win or lose.

jimenez

...till getting a SD or DS or SS playing the SS after 3xD...
Why to be concerned with SS only if with SD or DS we get a success?

after 3xDD I would bet again with a very short progression.
Stop loss after 2 bets...

in few words from your 1000 spin we should have

3xD: 28
4xD: 16

16+48= 64 won units or more considering that I didn't check how many SS came out.


It's so clear like an hawaian sunset..

Lanky

Hi Guys.

Just to make sure that I have this right.

If these numbers came.

02-0-0
15-D-D
31-D-D
11-D-D <<we could bet on the next spin Right ???

And or we could wait for yet another D-D and bet then after 4 D-D Had Come.

Am I correct in how I understand this. ?????

Lanky.

Lanky

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