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Gabe's personal (reversed) way to play the Lw method.

Started by Just_Gabe, March 02, 2010, 11:30:24 PM

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Just_Gabe

And by personal I really mean what could be properly called "reversed Lw method".  Why? for those that know the Lw method, as your common sense may tell you I'm looking for losing/breaking patterns, that means that whenever I get a LwLwLw, after a L I would bet for a lose instead of a win by betting only 1 unit.  Same with LLw.  Why would I play this way instead of the way that Lanky/Victor/Two Cat Sam taught? simply because after thousands of spins I've found that it is easier to recover and is a lot less risky to bet for L (1 unit needed) instead of a w(2 units needed).

This testing is going to be made in RNG Roulette, since it was long ago debated that this method didn't work in RNG and playing at live roulette is just slow and boring as hell (there are no casinos in my city btw, so the online gambling is the only option here).  But more imporant, please note that I'm NOT trying to discredit, prove or label the Lw method as a "losing method/system/whatever", in fact I want to THANK the genius(es) that created this method since it opened a whole new world of testing and tweaking and for some time made me hundreds of bucks (I'm not going to explain how everything went down...or maybe later), but from my personal experience in RNG roulette it just didn't work for me, as it gave poor results because
A)the goal of +10 units is, most of the times, just too hard to get and very time consuming
and/or
B)I ended up losing money in the long run.

So, after I while I just grew tired of trying to make the Lw work for me (and I'm even aware that I'm not playing it as good as Lanky does, since I'm not that good at predicting/reading trends), so suddenly I thought, "why not turn this around and work the other way? if by betting 2 dozens I lose more, why not bet the other dozen that is winning more often?"  I also happened to read about Ronjo's group system, where it basicly bet in 1 group aganist the other 2 two, inspiring me even more to bet for 1 dozen/column instead of the other two...and so I began.

At first, when that thought came to mind I immediately came up with good reasons as why to play this way:
1) The win ratio is reduced by half, but the losses are a lot less severe.
2) The winnings may be less likely but the payouts are "higher" allowing for faster recovering.
3) If you set a stop loss of 10 units, in the traditional way, in a hell sessions you would have to stop at 5 - 7 losses, while the other way you would have to face around 12 - 15 losses.
4) When encountering with multiple "losing streaks" (for the traditional Lw way to play) one can recover fast.
5) Those "losing streaks" are more often than winning ones.
6) The son of a &%#(/"! ZERO doesn't hurt that much.
7) If you want to use progression, it wouldn't be that dangerous as it could be a lot more conservative compared to betting on 2 dozens.  I've not tried this yet...since I'm also sick and tired of progressions that eat half my bankroll when facing a hard session, so this is pure flatbetting, something would still prove more interesting and challenging.

As well as other that you may find.

After some testing (if 5,000 spins could be called "some") I'm reaching to a possible conclusion that this way to playing is more for "breaking even in the long run".  Of course, I'll be testing it at least for 50,000 spins in order to confirm if this breakes even or if it wins slowly in the long term (less likely but wouldn't be surprised if that were the case, since after 5k spins I'm in a profit of +25 units).  Any way, if the first case were true this method could still be fully exploitable, why?  I'll explain later, but this still has potential to win hundreds...slowly but with really really low risk...

Anyway, from now on I'll be posting results almost everyday, every 3 days at most, with sessions of 1,000 spins each with some info about how the bankroll was fluctuating every 100 spins and the w/L patterns that formed from LwLwLw and LLw as well as the number of bets.  Those results of course, are aproximate since there's always the human error involved, but would be still reliable.  However I won't be able to give the numbers that were spun since I don't know of a way or program that records automatically the numbers that were spun.  Finally, the results would be also aproximate, since I won't be betting EVERY single...er...bet, since there's always the chance to predict when it is better not to bet and play on virtual, but I'm afraid that for now I'll have to leave that explanation later.  For now I'm focusing just on results.

I forgot to mention that this is being made in REAL MONEY testing with an initial BR of 20 units.

Just_Gabe

Notes:
1) The results given were using the reversed way.  If you feel curious to know the result using the traditional way, just change the -/+ to +/- and rest that result the zero*2 and you'll see that most of the times the results would be even larger.

2) The results given are not the real results that I ended up at the end of each sessions, that's because I'm also implementing the virtual play that saved me dozens of units for now (at the end of the 5th session, there is an expected result of -24 units when I'm actually at +28 units in my real money account), but I'm just too lazy and it's laborious to explain where I implemented them  :P  Still, I'll go and explain them later.

3)In relation to the 2nd note, I've finally convinced myself that this Lw method, played in the traditional way or the other way, seems to work after A LOT of practice.  Unlike other systems this is not something you can learn in an hour and then implement expecting profits, you need to practice, learn when to bet, read trends, predict losses, know when you're in a winning/losing streak and bet accordingingly.  Some of us are just too lazy for that including me, but since I've been testing and testing I've managed to learn how to read some trends and maximize my profits despite the expected loss.  Like I said, I'll later explain some of the strategies that I used.

**********SESSION 1**********
INITIAL BR: 100

[table=,]
Spins, Result, Total
100, +6, +6
200, +6, +12
300, +3, +15
400, -9, +6
500, +5, +11
600, +8, +19
700, +3, +22
800, -8, +14
900, -13, +1
1000, -8, -7

ZERO, -8, -15
[/table]

FINAL BR: 85

BETS: 487

LwLw
xoxoxoooxooooooxxxxoooxoooxoxooooooxxoxxxoooooxoxxooxxoooooooooxxooooooooooooxxoxxo
oxxoooxooox-xoxoooooooooxooxoooooooox-xoxooxxoxxoooxooox-xxx
oooooxoxxxoxxoooxoooxooxxxoooxox-oooooooxooooxoxxoxx
xoxooxooooxoooooxxxxooooxoooooooxooooxooxxoxxoxoxoxoxxooooooooxooooxxxoooox

LLw
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xoxxooooooxoooxooxoxooooooxooooooxoooxoxxoxoooooooxoooooox-
xoooxoxooooooxoxxoooxoooooooooxoo-xoo-xooooooxooooooooxooooo
xxoxoooooxxo-oxxoxxooooxoxoooxxxoxxoxxoxoxooooox

**********SESSION 2**********
INITIAL BR: 85

[table=,]
Spins, Result, Total
100, -1, -1
200, +9, +8
300, +4,+12
400, -2,+10
500, +18,+28
600, +13,+41
700, -19,+22
800, +8 ,+30
900, +6, +36
1000, +3, +39

ZERO,-10, +29
[/table]

FINAL BR: 114

BETS: 400

LwLw
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ooooo-oox-xoxxoooooooxoxooxxo-oooxoxoooooxxxoxoooooxooxoxoo
ooxooooxxoxox-oo-oxoxoooooooooxoxoxoooooxoooooo-x
xxooxoxoxoox-xxxxxxoxooooxxooxxoooxoxx

LLw
xxoxooxoooooooxoooxoxooxoxooxooxxoooxooxoox
xxoxooooxxooxoxoxoooooxoooxoooooxoxxoxxxxo
oxxxooxoxooxooxooooxooxoxoo-ooxooxxxo
xoooooooo-oxooxooxxxoxoxxoxxxxooxxoxxoxooooxxoooxoo

**********SESSION 3**********
INITIAL BR: 114

[table=,]
Spins, Result, Total
100, -4, -4
200, -1, -5
300, +1, -4
400, +4, 0
500, +0, 0
600, -1, -1
700, +2, +1
800, -20, -19
900, +2, -17
1000, -2, -19

ZERO,-10, -29
[/table]

FINAL BR: 85

BETS: 443

LwLw
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oxooxxoxooxoooxoxooooooxoxxoo-oxooooooooox-ooooooxoooxxoxoxooox
oxoo-oxoooxx-oooooxooxooxooooooooxoooxoxxxoooxoooxxooxooooxoxx

LLw
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xoxoxxoooxoxooooxooxxooooooxooooooxoxooooooooooxx

**********SESSION 4**********
INITIAL BR: 85

[table=,]
Spins, Result, Total
100, +0, 0
200, -17, -17
300, +4, -13
400, -4, -17
500, -3, -20
600, +12, -8
700, -1, -9
800, -9, -18
900, -11, -29
1000, +14, -15

ZERO, -9, -24
[/table]

FINAL BR: 61

BETS: 450

LwLw
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oox-oxxoooxoooxxxooooxoooooxxoxxooxoooxooxoo
oxooooooxooooooooxooxxoooxoxoxoooooooxooooxoxoo-oooxxooooxooox
ooxo-oooxxoxoooo-ooxooxxooooooxooooooxxxxoooxxxooxooxoxxooooxxoxoxxxoooxxxooooo

LLw
xxoxoxxoooxoooooooxoooxoooxxooooooxooxoxoxoooooooooxxoxoxoo
ooooooxoooxoxooxxooxxx-xxooxoooxxoxooooooo
xoxoxoooxoooxoooo-oooo-xoxo-oxooxoooooxoxoxoxoxoooooxooooo
oooooooooooxoooooxxooooxxxxxoooooxo-oxooooxoxxxoxx

**********SESSION 5**********

INITIAL BR: 61

[table=,]
100, -2, -2
200, -7, -9
300, +6, -3
400, +12, +9
500, +4, +13
600, +8, +21
700, +18, +39
800, +6, +45
900, -7, +38
1000, -14, +24

ZERO, -9, +15
[/table]

FINAL BR: 76

BETS: 405

LwLw
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oxoooxxoooooxooxxoxxoxooooo-oxxxooxoxxoxxxxoxxoooooxooooooox
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oxxooooxxooxxoooxx-ooxo-oooxxoxoxoxooo

LLw
oxoxoxooxoxxoooooxoxxox-xxxxooooooooxooxo
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xoooox-xooxooxoxoxoxxooxoooooxxoooooxxooooooooo
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Jish

cool im sure alot of people want to see you results

Jish

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