winwithmath beat every event test result sharing

[kompressor]

Permanenzen von Tisch 3 vom 24.04.2009

r
r +1
r +2 -1
b +1
r  0  0
r +1
b  0 +1
r -1
r  0 +2
b -1
b  0 +3
b +1
b +2 +2
r +1
r +2 +1
b +1
r  0 +2
b -1
r -2 +1
b -3
b -2 +2
b -1
b  0 +3
r -1
b -2 +2
b -1
b  0 +3
r -1
b -2 +2
r -3
b -4 +1
r -5
b -6  0
r -7
b -8 -1
b -7
r -8 -2
r -7
b -8 -3
b -7
b -6 -2
b -5
b -4 -1
r -5
r -4  0
r -3
0     -1
b -4
r -5 -2
b -6
r -7 -3
r -6
r -5 -2
0
b -6
r -7 -3
b -8
b -7 -2
0
r -8
r -7 -1
r -6
r -5  0
b -6
r -7 -1
r -6
b -7 -2
b -6
r -7 -3
b -8
b -7 -2
b -6
r -7 -3
b -8
r -9 -4
b -10
b -9 -3
b -8
b -7 -2
b -6
b -5 -1
b -4
b -3  0
r -4
b -5 -1
b -4
b -3  0
r -4
b -5 -1
b -4
r -5 -2
r -4
r -3 -1
b -4
b -3  0
b -2
b -1 +1
r -2
b -3  0
r -4
b -5 -1
b -4
b -3  0
r -4
b -5 -1
b -4
r -5 -2
r -4
b -5 -3
r -6
r -5 -2
r -4
r -3 -1
r -2
b -3 -2
b -2
r -3 -3
b -4
b -3 -2
b -2
r -3 -3
r -2
r -1 -2
b -2
r -3 -3
r -4
r -3 -2
b -4
r -5 -3
r -4
r -3 -2
r -2
b -3 -3
b -2
r -3 -4
b -4
r -5 -5
r -4
r -3 -4
b -4
r -5 -5
r -4
b -5 -6
r -6
b -7 -7
r -8
b -9 -8

game over


I had 3-4 winning sessions before this killer trot...the man said we should lose 1 session out of 50


please share your results here

thanks

[lucky_strike]

Nice, i will and want to mention that some one did run it for 3000 trails and it fails big time.

LS

[Spike]

3000? Wendel will say you should leave after 200 spins and it will work every time. Thats how clueless he is about how it really works.

[Boo_Ray]

3000? Wendel will say you should leave after 200 spins and it will work every time. Thats how clueless he is about how it really works.

yes, he also said alot of other things, which are...... more or less.. Useless
I don't blame that guy for being optimistic or whatever, but I just hate to watch him tipe all that stories, which are not rly interesting

[Shorty]

I've just ignored his entire section.

[Boo_Ray]

I've just ignored his entire section.

I also ignore it, but still I have stories in mind when he told that wheel has memory like in cards... when you can't always get 4 aces...

well hell NO if aces aren't in play anymore, but, james if you are reading this... Game which we know as roulette... if you noticed there is always one ball and always 37 numbers and it doesnt matter how many players play at the table, result will be the same.... Things are diferent in cards..

[hlkhoo]

You got the test wrong!
Here's how you should play.   Playing continuously, you will have a +4. 
Remember, one of his rules is NOT to play continuously.   Stop win/loss is +4 or -8 respectively.   The highest -ve I have before recording a +4 win, is -6.  
Don't expect to win every time.   Someday you will lose and according to James, you will have higher wins ratio to losses!

r   0   
r   1   
r   2   
b   1   1
r   0   
r   1   2
b   0   
r   -1   1
r   0   
b   -1   2
b   0   
b   1   1
b   2   
r   1   2
r   2   
b   1   3
r   0   
b   -1   2
r   -2   
b   -3   1
b   -2   
b   -1   0
b   0   
r   -1   1
b   -2   
b   -1   2
b   0   
r   -1   3
b   -2   
r   -3   2
b   -4   
r   -5   1
b   -6   
r   -7   0
b   -8   
b   -7   1
r   -8   
r   -7   2
b   -8   
b   -7   3
b   -6   
b   -5   2
b   -4   
r   -5   3
r   -4   
r   -3   2
0   -4   
b   -5   1
r   -6   
b   -7   0
r   -8   
r   -7   1
r   -6   
0   -7   0
b   -8   
r   -9   -1
b   -10   
b   -9   0
0   -10   
r   -11   -1
r   -10   
r   -9   -2
r   -8   
b   -9   -1
r   -10   
r   -9   0
b   -10   
b   -9   1
r   -10   
b   -11   0
b   -10   
b   -9   -1
r   -10   
b   -11   -2
r   -12   
b   -13   -3
b   -12   
b   -11   -4
b   -10   
b   -9   -5
b   -8   
b   -7   -6
b   -6   
r   -7   -5
b   -8   
b   -7   -4
b   -6   
r   -7   -3
b   -8   
b   -7   -2
r   -8   
r   -7   -1
r   -6   
b   -7   0
b   -6   
b   -5   -1
b   -4   
r   -5   0
b   -6   
r   -7   -1
b   -8   
b   -7   0
b   -6   
r   -7   1
b   -8   
b   -7   2
r   -8   
r   -7   3
b   -8   
r   -9   2
r   -8   
r   -7   1
r   -6   
r   -5   0
b   -6   
b   -5   1
r   -6   
b   -7   0
b   -6   
b   -5   -1
r   -6   
r   -5   0
r   -4   
b   -5   1
r   -6   
r   -5   2
r   -4   
b   -5   3
r   -6   
r   -5   4
r   -4   
r   -3   3
b   -4   
b   -3   4
r   -4   
b   -5   3
r   -6   
r   -5   4
r   -4   
b   -5   5
r   -6   
r   -5   6
b   -6   
r   -7   5
b   -8   
r   -9   4
b   -10   

[WARRIOR]

HI HLKHOO I STILL DONT UNDERSTAND IS HE BETTING EVERY SPIN AND IS HE  BETTING NOT THE LAST BUT THE ONE BEFORE LAST,AND ON THE TEST YOU SHOW ON THE 4TH SPIN FROM THE TOP ITS BLACK AND THERES A 1 AND THEN ANOTHER ONE WHERE DID THE 2ND 1 COME FROM.THANKS TINO

[redhot]

Hey Tino, I'll try to explain as best as i can

the first column is just the result (red or black)

the second column is a "virtual" record of how your bankroll would look if you were playing follow the last. You don't really play this, just keep track of it

the third column is our "real bankroll" if this gets to +4 or -8 we stop.

Ok now how to bet, you play every other bet, i.e bet then miss the next spin then bet again.

You look at the second column and bet for the back and forth motion i.e

r   0   
r   1   
r   2  <-- At this point you would bet that the second column would go back to 1, so bet black
b   1 <-- Win +1
r   0 <--- At this point you would bet that the second column would go back to 1 again, so bet red 
r   1 <--- Win +2

Your record would then look like this

r   0   
r   1   
r   2   
b   1   1
r   0   
r   1   2

Hope that helps

cheers

[WARRIOR]

THNKK YOU RED HOT THAT HELPS CHEERS TINO

[kompressor]

You got the test wrong!
Here's how you should play.   Playing continuously, you will have a +4. 
Remember, one of his rules is NOT to play continuously.   Stop win/loss is +4 or -8 respectively.   The highest -ve I have before recording a +4 win, is -6.  
Don't expect to win every time.   Someday you will lose and according to James, you will have higher wins ratio to losses!

FIRST : YOU'VE STARTED PLAYING AT FOURTH HIT...I'VE STARTED AT THIRD.....SO THIS WORTH NOTHING

SECOND : HE BET FOR -1 WHEN THE COUNT IS AT 0 ; SOMETIME YOU BET FOR 1...SOMETIME FOR -1

THIRD : ARE YOU HIS GRANDSON WHO ARE YOU TO PROOVE I'M WRONG....FROM THE FIRST DAY I'VE STARTED THIS THREAD I JUST WISH THE   MAN COME  AND TELL ME IF MY PLAY IS GOOD OR BAD....I'VE SENT SEVERAL EMAIL BUT NO REPLY....


IF YOU REALLY KNOW HOW TO PLAY THIS AND HAVE TIME TO TEACH US YOUR WELCOME




   

[redhot]

Kompressor, the way i have described above is the way to play it, I believe hlkhoo is playing it correctly.

I know from talking to James at gamblers glen, he had a huge thread there where he explained it.

[lucky_strike]

My humble opinion is that you forget about him and hes methods.
That is my friendly advice.

You see there is one thing to argue and make claims, any one can do that it is easy.
Show a way how to play is also easy.

Roulette will give you a negative expectation no matter how you turnaround numbers, so forget about flat betting.
There is no math or secret formula that will change this.

It is a waste of time to spend hours and hours testing some thing that you already know will not work as you expect it to do.
I am not saying that you should stop testing things do, but I say you have to do so with the correct expectation.

This means that you try to find a honest way to win and break even for as long as you can and have fun.
One good start is to try to stop playing when you are ahead, every time and when you don't you try to break even.

This way you will have less worries and you will become a true happy winner at all times, even if you hit a loss limit.

Cheers Lucky Strike

[kompressor]

Kompressor, the way I have described above is the way to play it, I believe hlkhoo is playing it correctly.

I know from talking to James at gamblers glen, he had a huge thread there where he explained it.

but why sometime you bet that 0 become -1 and sometime that 0 become 1

[redhot]

but why sometime you bet that 0 become -1 and after that 0 become 1

In this situation:

b
b  1
r   0 <-- here it is 0, but it was 1 before so you would be betting that it will go back to 1
r   1 <-- Win

In this situation:
b
r  -1
r   0 <-- here it is 0, but it was -1 before so you would be betting that it will go back to -1
b  -1<-- win

[redhot]

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