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16 number special system not lost (YET)

Started by MATTJONO, October 27, 2008, 11:42:07 PM

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See_Jerek

Quote from: the_spiders_kiss on November 04, 2008, 07:43:58 PM
Yeah. Dunno if id have the guts to play in real tho,because makes a hole in your BR whilst playin due to large bets being placed to get to progression 5...and if that DID miss.................... :'(

I think this sort of systems that invole progression will definately hit the wall at some point,so risk is defintely there.But as long as you can win more to cover the loss,I think its fair enough isn't it?

kompressor

thats the problem with progression...dont spend too much profits if you want to survive

ryan08

guys, guys, guys,

if your going to worry about the progression then find another system because you will bottle it when you go to the high steps, it requires very good dicipline, if it bothers you that much find a low stakes table eg- joyland casino (0.01 min bet). wait for 5 misses and you will be fine, iv hit a few misses before but i havent hit a miss in 5 days playing for 12 hours every day, +1776, the profit speaks for itself

Moccoman

Hi Mattjono,

As you have been testing this a lot, is it possible to see what the results are with the 4,000 spin series you have of also applying the opposite scenario?

That is, where the ball lands 5 times within the 7 numbers either side of the last number spun - then betting that the next result/s will be outside that range. Admittedly, you would be betting on 20 numbers in this case and a varied progression would be needed.

Just think the stats might be interesting and there would definitely be more action as it looks like, with the original, you might have an opportunity only once in some 50-60 spins.

Regards
Mocco


ryan08

iv had a couple of losses playing 5 misses over the testing period, iv played waiting for 6 misses and havent hit a loss yet, its been to the last step twice but held up, im at +1956. this is very slow but over 5 days thats my results,

@ moccoman, seeing more 'action' is not always the best option, take it from me, this way is boring but it works, im not sure you will need to add to it

petquesha

Looks goood guys.
Must say though that when one has to wait longer and longer for the progression to succeed ,it could mean that the sysytem is maybe not so good after all.
I ahve tested several systems with progression ,some were really good and got me up 6000 units or more.
But with these kind off progressions one has to have some luck at beginning,because tghe session from hell could be among the first couple off sessions as we all know.

i like this system and i dont want to be negative,but experience learns us that when we think we have a good prgression but during the course of testing we have to keep altering the betting point off course there will be less sessions to play and it might seem that there is hardly any loosing session.
But according to the law off roulette playing the first 5 spins ,should give similar results as wait for 5 spins and then start playing with same progression.

I used to play a long progression on sleeper nrs ,so i do believe in waiting for right moment to bet.
but in this system i should be possible to prograam it and test in on 100000 spins,then see where we stand.

Dont want to be negative ,but i feel sometimes on this forum ,people tend to get very excited about things that might have been tried before and didnt prove to be long term winner.

regards petquesha

See_Jerek

Quote from: petquesha on November 05, 2008, 07:19:12 AM
Looks goood guys.
Must say though that when one has to wait longer and longer for the progression to succeed ,it could mean that the sysytem is maybe not so good after all.
I ahve tested several systems with progression ,some were really good and got me up 6000 units or more.
But with these kind off progressions one has to have some luck at beginning,because tghe session from hell could be among the first couple off sessions as we all know.

i like this system and I dont want to be negative,but experience learns us that when we think we have a good prgression but during the course of testing we have to keep altering the betting point off course there will be less sessions to play and it might seem that there is hardly any loosing session.
But according to the law off roulette playing the first 5 spins ,should give similar results as wait for 5 spins and then start playing with same progression.

I used to play a long progression on sleeper nrs ,so I do believe in waiting for right moment to bet.
but in this system I should be possible to prograam it and test in on 100000 spins,then see where we stand.

Dont want to be negative ,but I feel sometimes on this forum ,people tend to get very excited about things that might have been tried before and didnt prove to be long term winner.

regards petquesha

I have to say I partly agreed with you.I try playing right from the 1st spin without waits,results are about the same I feel,I may be wrong perhaps as I hit and run once I win some units I stop

ryan08

@ petquesha, this works wether you wait for 4 5 or 6 misses, the only reason im suggesting wait longer is because certain people wont risk the money, and want to play as safely as possible, its up to you wether you want to play but iv had good results and ill continue to play

roules

Quote from: luke0407 on November 01, 2008, 07:43:57 AM
Hi,

whenever I try to use Joyland Casino it just says live games not available - tried it at 21.30 and 22.30 and 09.45 UK time?

any others?

Luke

32Vegas has 10 cent minimum - and 1cent units

carib711

QuoteSee jerek is right according to my maths, progression should be 1,2,3,6 and 12

Hi everyone- actually the correct bet progression is (what ever bet you feel comfortable with) X 2 1/2 times the wager.

example: 0.10 X 2 1/2 = 0.25 X 2 1/2 = 0.63 (move to 0.70) X 2 1/2 = 1.75 X 2 1/2 = 4.40 X 2 1/2 = 11
6 bet progression = 0.10, 0.25, .70, 1.75, 4.40, 11

for 5 steps leave out 0.10

I have gotten to 7 losses at Bet365 so be careful but this is a good system if used correctly. Use 25% win ratio at one casino stop and move to another one, only live though!

carib711

Quotewould this work well with double zero roulette ??

I would not use this with double zero but why there are many single zero casinos online? If you do you will have more loses and less wins and we all know the single worst factor in roulette is the zero so if you have two zeros you double your problems, not good!

roules

Thanks to some heavy rain I have a few days off work (and therefore time to play/test) so thought Id give this baby a quick whirl on my Dublin bet fun account.
1 hours play - 558 units! This would of been 279 euros which is $530 AUD - bloody good for an hours work.

I realize reality probably needs to kick and this could well have been a lucky run so I'll be back to play more sessions later and see what happens. But I'll be stoked if things hold up this well.
I used progression 1 2 3 6 12, which, since they've lowered the max bet per number on the low rollers table to 10 euros becomes
.5, 1, 1.5, 3, 6 and NO waiting for x losses - just dived straight in.

Also, I hit the last step in the progression once and the second last three times so I can see the merit in waiting at least two misses. And having re-read the first post I forgot to bet the 2nd last number hit so these are 15 number bets not 16.

Roules

See_Jerek

Quote from: roules on November 05, 2008, 09:55:44 PM
Thanks to some heavy rain I have a few days off work (and therefore time to play/test) so thought Id give this baby a quick whirl on my Dublin bet fun account.
1 hours play - 558 units! This would of been 279 euros which is $530 AUD - bloody good for an hours work.

I realize reality probably needs to kick and this could well have been a lucky run so I'll be back to play more sessions later and see what happens. But I'll be stoked if things hold up this well.
I used progression 1 2 3 6 12, which, since they've lowered the max bet per number on the low rollers table to 10 euros becomes
.5, 1, 1.5, 3, 6 and NO waiting for x losses - just dived straight in.

Also, I hit the last step in the progression once and the second last three times so I can see the merit in waiting at least two misses. And having re-read the first post I forgot to bet the 2nd last number hit so these are 15 number bets not 16.

Roules

I would attritbute the success to some good luck but you progression seems to be better lower profits but lesser damage when you hit the wall.You should play it a little longer waiting for 3 misses at least.keep me posted on your results

kenwira

Hi Guys,

I have encountered 13 misses in Rapid Roulette in Genting Highland casino in Malaysia.Twice!!

Good luck!

Kenwira.

roules

Quote from: MATTJONO on October 28, 2008, 12:00:08 AM
THIS MIGHT HELP [smiley=shocked.gif]



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Well waiting and using patience sure keeps the heart rate down, but, continuous play:
+3400 units
1 Loss - 656 (ouch!)

Total 2744 units which in 50cent terms at Dublinbet - 1372 Euros
Not bad...
I know it looks like I'm trying to make a case for cont play but with a 656 unit progression loss, waiting is obviously worthwhile.
Another thought I had was to play after a win for one spin only, sticking with the progression but waiting for another win so you are looking for.....
LLLWL(lose step 1)LLWW(win step 2)

Roules

roules

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